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Routes to/from LGW*/LCY/STN are NOT affected. Only flights to/from LHR* are potentially affected. If you think you may be affected, post 2714 (click here) may be helpful.
*The LGW-JFK flight has seen a lot of cancellations for the current strike period.
Current strike period:
Next announced strike period:
Previous strike periods:
Routes affected:
As a possible indication, for the fifth strike period BA announced the following cancellations:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/27910044-post2131.html as well as flights to and from Doha on all affected days (17 - 20 February).
Mixed fleet routes are listed here, though note that other (non Mixed Fleet) flights from Heathrow are also being cancelled.
Note for context in terms of how many routes might actually be affected: there are about 4000 members of MF (of which ~2,700 are Unite members and therefore eligible to take industrial action) and 15,000 total cabin crew
Background Details from BA:
Strike 19th July-1st August
2nd August-16th August
Background Details from Unite:
http://www.unitetheunion.org/news/br...ty-pay-levels/
http://www.unitetheunion.org/news/br...refuses-talks/
Latest negotiating position:
Talks at ACAS in June appear to have failed, with a further two week strike commencing 1st July announced on 16th June.
Key upcoming dates:
Ballot results for industrial action:
*The LGW-JFK flight has seen a lot of cancellations for the current strike period.
Current strike period:
- None
Next announced strike period:
Previous strike periods:
- 25th December 2016 from 00:01 for 48 hours. (Strike action was suspended following ACAS discussions and revised offer.)
- 10th & 11th January 2017
- 19th January 2017 for 72 hours until 21st January
- 5th-7th & 9th-11th February 2017
- 17th-20th February 2017
- 22nd-25th February 2017
- 3rd-9th March 2017
- 16th-19th June 2017 (suspended pending further ACAS talks)
- 1st-16th July 2017
- 19th July-1st August 2017
- 2nd-15th August 2017
- 16th-30th August 2017
Routes affected:
As a possible indication, for the fifth strike period BA announced the following cancellations:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/27910044-post2131.html as well as flights to and from Doha on all affected days (17 - 20 February).
Mixed fleet routes are listed here, though note that other (non Mixed Fleet) flights from Heathrow are also being cancelled.
Note for context in terms of how many routes might actually be affected: there are about 4000 members of MF (of which ~2,700 are Unite members and therefore eligible to take industrial action) and 15,000 total cabin crew
Background Details from BA:
Strike 19th July-1st August
2nd August-16th August
Background Details from Unite:
http://www.unitetheunion.org/news/br...ty-pay-levels/
http://www.unitetheunion.org/news/br...refuses-talks/
Latest negotiating position:
Talks at ACAS in June appear to have failed, with a further two week strike commencing 1st July announced on 16th June.
Key upcoming dates:
- Latest negotiated position (@ 23rd Oct 2017) between BA & Unite to be balloted. Rumoured that the union is recommending acceptance.
Ballot results for industrial action:
- First ballot, November 2016: Yes 79.5%, No 20.5%
- Second ballot, December 2016: Yes 70%, No 30%
- Third ballot, March 2017: Yes 56%, No 44%, turnout 72%
BA 'Mixed Fleet' cabin crew dispute [agreement reached]
#841
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 1,885
It's greatly to his (which is to say our) credit etc
I've been a member of this parish a dozen years or so, longer if you count the time I was a lurker.
Rightly, the BAEC forum is regarded as one of the jewels in the crown of FT. Knowledge, whimsy, good humour: we're the light in the darkness.
We also used to talk about fish when the mood struck us. And how spotwelder arranged himself for sleeping in premium cabins. Great memories.
Traditionally as a forum we have let ourselves down whenever strikes have been an issue. Threads about fat people on planes and children in premium cabins have hardly been our finest hours, either.
I'm impressed by how measured and non-inflammatory the tone of this thread has been, certainly in comparison to the toxic bun-fights in years gone by.
I suspect this owes a little to deft moderation.
But anyway. Well done us. Let us continue to disagree when we disagree but also not be d!cks about it when we do.
Rightly, the BAEC forum is regarded as one of the jewels in the crown of FT. Knowledge, whimsy, good humour: we're the light in the darkness.
We also used to talk about fish when the mood struck us. And how spotwelder arranged himself for sleeping in premium cabins. Great memories.
Traditionally as a forum we have let ourselves down whenever strikes have been an issue. Threads about fat people on planes and children in premium cabins have hardly been our finest hours, either.
I'm impressed by how measured and non-inflammatory the tone of this thread has been, certainly in comparison to the toxic bun-fights in years gone by.
I suspect this owes a little to deft moderation.
But anyway. Well done us. Let us continue to disagree when we disagree but also not be d!cks about it when we do.
#842
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Munich, Algarve, Sussex or S.F Bay Area
Programs: Mucci, BA Gold, A3*Gold, AA Plat, HH Gold, IHG Plat Amb, Marriott Plat
Posts: 4,164
I've been a member of this parish a dozen years or so, longer if you count the time I was a lurker.
Rightly, the BAEC forum is regarded as one of the jewels in the crown of FT. Knowledge, whimsy, good humour: we're the light in the darkness.
We also used to talk about fish when the mood struck us. And how spotwelder arranged himself for sleeping in premium cabins. Great memories.
Traditionally as a forum we have let ourselves down whenever strikes have been an issue. Threads about fat people on planes and children in premium cabins have hardly been our finest hours, either.
I'm impressed by how measured and non-inflammatory the tone of this thread has been, certainly in comparison to the toxic bun-fights in years gone by.
I suspect this owes a little to deft moderation.
But anyway. Well done us. Let us continue to disagree when we disagree but also not be d!cks about it when we do.
Rightly, the BAEC forum is regarded as one of the jewels in the crown of FT. Knowledge, whimsy, good humour: we're the light in the darkness.
We also used to talk about fish when the mood struck us. And how spotwelder arranged himself for sleeping in premium cabins. Great memories.
Traditionally as a forum we have let ourselves down whenever strikes have been an issue. Threads about fat people on planes and children in premium cabins have hardly been our finest hours, either.
I'm impressed by how measured and non-inflammatory the tone of this thread has been, certainly in comparison to the toxic bun-fights in years gone by.
I suspect this owes a little to deft moderation.
But anyway. Well done us. Let us continue to disagree when we disagree but also not be d!cks about it when we do.
#843
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Tel Aviv, Israel
Programs: BA, LY, QF, UA, HH
Posts: 182
To ask a selfish question: my honeymoon flight is BA015 to SYD on 24 December which I think is an MF flight.
Does this mean if the strike goes ahead a chance that once we get to SIN, they'll kick us off the plane and we'll need to wait around for the strike to end?
Does this mean if the strike goes ahead a chance that once we get to SIN, they'll kick us off the plane and we'll need to wait around for the strike to end?
#844
Join Date: Apr 2014
Programs: BA Exec Club Gold, Hilton Diamond, IHG Platinum, Marriott Bonvoy Platinum
Posts: 214
Well it looks like my trip is barely going to squeak through...
1. BA strikes the day after I fly them
2. Swissport @ LHR dont do BA flights
So I guess we will be having that chaat in VNS, kulfi in DEL, kulcha in ATQ, and mathi varathathu w/ my family @ COK/CCJ
...Life is good...
As long as 6E and SG don't unexpectedly f**k up
1. BA strikes the day after I fly them
2. Swissport @ LHR dont do BA flights
So I guess we will be having that chaat in VNS, kulfi in DEL, kulcha in ATQ, and mathi varathathu w/ my family @ COK/CCJ
...Life is good...
As long as 6E and SG don't unexpectedly f**k up
I too have a flight that "squeaks through" but somehow my thoughts are about the injustices facing mixed fleet.
Separately, I have complained to customer services about the wording of the Twitter feed
#845
Moderator, Iberia Airlines, Airport Lounges, and Ambassador, British Airways Executive Club
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I would be reasonably confident that won't happen. Have a look upthread (e.g. post 654) to see about how the strike will operate: just one crew report location is affected, and that is LHR Terminal 5 (though that also covers T3 by proxy), and the dates are also clearly set down. Crew who are already in the system during the strike days will continue to work until their next report occasion. I hope you have a great honeymoon, congratulations on your forthcoming (or indeed past) wedding.
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#846
Fontaine d'honneur du Flyertalk
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Morbihan, France
Programs: Reine des Muccis de Pucci; Foreign Elitist (according to others)
Posts: 19,180
I've been a member of this parish a dozen years or so, longer if you count the time I was a lurker.
Rightly, the BAEC forum is regarded as one of the jewels in the crown of FT. Knowledge, whimsy, good humour: we're the light in the darkness.
We also used to talk about fish when the mood struck us. And how spotwelder arranged himself for sleeping in premium cabins. Great memories.
Rightly, the BAEC forum is regarded as one of the jewels in the crown of FT. Knowledge, whimsy, good humour: we're the light in the darkness.
We also used to talk about fish when the mood struck us. And how spotwelder arranged himself for sleeping in premium cabins. Great memories.
#847
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: London
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 81
Apologies, I haven't read all thread to see if this question has been covered.
I'm booked on 27th to LHR-JFK at 9:40am which I know with present information should be fine, but just wondering due to knock-on effect of rebooking for others from 24th/25th if we should expect T5 to be very busy morning of 27th, or just normal?
I'm booked on 27th to LHR-JFK at 9:40am which I know with present information should be fine, but just wondering due to knock-on effect of rebooking for others from 24th/25th if we should expect T5 to be very busy morning of 27th, or just normal?
#848
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Mystic Meg hasn't posted for a while in this forum, but normally the week between Christmas and New Year is very quiet and a great time to be in T5. Subject to any weather issues, I would think it would be fine for you.
#849
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: London
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 81
Thanks C-W-S, just not sure what to expect the first morning after a strike, if they put on more flights etc.
#850
Join Date: Jan 2015
Programs: BAEC Gold
Posts: 1,630
Assuming only the 1200 that voted for strike action will actually withdraw their labour, then how many of the 1200 would be due to log on at base during the first day of the strike? Also what happens if the cabin crew don't turn up but the pilots do. Will they fly empty to their destination if there are passengers and crew who are due to return during the strike period?
#851
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I'd missed the earlier post and not appreciated how things work.
Assuming only the 1200 that voted for strike action will actually withdraw their labour, then how many of the 1200 would be due to log on at base during the first day of the strike? Also what happens if the cabin crew don't turn up but the pilots do. Will they fly empty to their destination if there are passengers and crew who are due to return during the strike period?
Assuming only the 1200 that voted for strike action will actually withdraw their labour, then how many of the 1200 would be due to log on at base during the first day of the strike? Also what happens if the cabin crew don't turn up but the pilots do. Will they fly empty to their destination if there are passengers and crew who are due to return during the strike period?
#852
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: LHR/ATH
Programs: Amex Platinum, LH SEN (Gold), BA Bronze
Posts: 4,489
Seat 1A? You arent Alex Cruz on this forum under another name are you? = )))
If i were you i would hold fire until the cancelled flights get posted. Worst case they'll put you on an earlier flight and put you in a hotel, or find an arrangement where you take another airline/train which means you won't really be out of pocket if BA refund that leg for you or make other arrangements. Keep us up to date!
Any thoughts on domestic to longhaul flights? I'm booked on the following:
25 Dec BA1395 MAN-LHR
25 Dec BA0287 LHR-SFO
I'm thinking that rebooking MAN-LHR for 24 Dec is my best option but I don't want to jump the gun if there is a possibility that the 25 Dec flight won't be cancelled.
25 Dec BA1395 MAN-LHR
25 Dec BA0287 LHR-SFO
I'm thinking that rebooking MAN-LHR for 24 Dec is my best option but I don't want to jump the gun if there is a possibility that the 25 Dec flight won't be cancelled.
#853
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 38
I am due to fly from LHR to LCA on the 26th 11.20am flight, I can see this should apparently not be affected by the strike action, but I am flying with two children and if long delays are a possible knock on effect I may consider swapping dates. I am a total novice here, so with your great wealth of knowledge and experience, what would you do is this situation ? (We are flying CE so at least I can take them up to the lounge)
#854
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Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Leeds, UK
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I am due to fly from LHR to LCA on the 26th 11.20am flight, I can see this should apparently not be affected by the strike action, but I am flying with two children and if long delays are a possible knock on effect I may consider swapping dates. I am a total novice here, so with your great wealth of knowledge and experience, what would you do is this situation ? (We are flying CE so at least I can take them up to the lounge)
#855
Join Date: Jun 2014
Programs: BAEC silver
Posts: 464
Whilst many agree with the MF grievances on their conditions, is it just me or does this strike stink as being part of a coordinated union attempt the damage the government?? Too many key infrastructure strikes at the same time, IMHO the MF crew are being used as union pawns despite what they might think.