BA Enhances its short haul economy fare structure
#151
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I'm certainly one of those who sees this as another step down that road, clearer differentiation between HBO and more flexible tickets. Free seat reservations are already gone from HBO and it wouldn't surprise me if lounge access went to as part of a cull of lounge numbers.
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I'm certainly one of those who sees this as another step down that road, clearer differentiation between HBO and more flexible tickets. Free seat reservations are already gone from HBO and it wouldn't surprise me if lounge access went to as part of a cull of lounge numbers.
#153
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But doing 50 flights a year the small differences make life a bit more comfortable.
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Official figures are no reference, official figures will tell you that there is no inflation, that if the UK leaves the EU disaster will strike and that the aliens did not land in Roswell. Better listen to the people working in the field and better use common sense than put trust in official figures .
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I don't think BA management would be that stupid. Even Lufthansa (as tight as they are) allows lounge access on their cheap Eurowing/Germanwings tickets for their own elites, so I'd be VERY surprised if BA decided to scrap that benefit on HBO fares. Would they be that daft?
#156
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I really don't like the sound of this...
From what I can see, this will almost certainly make me worse off than before: I never ever book those Ryanair-copy tickets as I want my pre-selected seat and hardly ever manage to get everything stuffed into a piece of hand luggage only. And I also haven't made a last minute flight change in over ten years because I plan ahead properly (and travel only long haul for business so all the travel within Europe is for pleasure).
So- given the above, I will pay more than before. Which, of course, will be what BA is after- to my knowledge all this airline really ever cares about is money (as, admittedly, does pretty much every operational business). The only question now is, how much more and I dearly hope that some of the more negative views on this here in the forum won't come true!
So- given the above, I will pay more than before. Which, of course, will be what BA is after- to my knowledge all this airline really ever cares about is money (as, admittedly, does pretty much every operational business). The only question now is, how much more and I dearly hope that some of the more negative views on this here in the forum won't come true!
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Well, since you've said you'll pay more, you're exactly the type of customer they are targeting by making these changes.
Originally Posted by Sydneyberlin
From what I can see, this will almost certainly make me worse off than before: I never ever book those Ryanair-copy tickets as I want my pre-selected seat and hardly ever manage to get everything stuffed into a piece of hand luggage only. And I also haven't made a last minute flight change in over ten years because I plan ahead properly (and travel only long haul for business so all the travel within Europe is for pleasure).
So- given the above, I will pay more than before. Which, of course, will be what BA is after- to my knowledge all this airline really ever cares about is money (as, admittedly, does pretty much every operational business). The only question now is, how much more and I dearly hope that some of the more negative views on this here in the forum won't come true!
So- given the above, I will pay more than before. Which, of course, will be what BA is after- to my knowledge all this airline really ever cares about is money (as, admittedly, does pretty much every operational business). The only question now is, how much more and I dearly hope that some of the more negative views on this here in the forum won't come true!
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I suppose my point was that Miles&Less is not exactly known for being the most generous FFP, but they extend benefits to 4U/EW ticket holders even though they're not even Star Alliance airlines. I certainly don't think Lufthansa would refuse entry to passengers with their own LH Group tickets (LH,OS,LX,SN,LO). Has anybody ever heard of that happening?
It seems to me that BAEC is regarded as more generous than M&M and I really can't see why they would want to strip the lounge benefit, which would be nothing short of a big slap in the face.
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Any SH flight I am on is typically rammed and the Queue of frequent flyers is longer than the general boarding Q
In fact, BA is increasing frequencies on the routes I use. If what you are saying is true they would be decreasing.
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Are you on a monopoly route or a corporate preferred supplier deal? Unfortunate if so.
Originally Posted by Sydneyberlin
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I suppose my point was that Miles&Less is not exactly known for being the most generous FFP, but they extend benefits to 4U/EW ticket holders even though they're not even Star Alliance airlines. I certainly don't think Lufthansa would refuse entry to passengers with their own LH Group tickets (LH,OS,LX,SN,LO). Has anybody ever heard of that happening?
It seems to me that BAEC is regarded as more generous than M&M and I really can't see why they would want to strip the lounge benefit, which would be nothing short of a big slap in the face.
I suppose my point was that Miles&Less is not exactly known for being the most generous FFP, but they extend benefits to 4U/EW ticket holders even though they're not even Star Alliance airlines. I certainly don't think Lufthansa would refuse entry to passengers with their own LH Group tickets (LH,OS,LX,SN,LO). Has anybody ever heard of that happening?
It seems to me that BAEC is regarded as more generous than M&M and I really can't see why they would want to strip the lounge benefit, which would be nothing short of a big slap in the face.
#163
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The need to check baggage is forced onto me because the difference between what can be carried in public and onto an aircraft is large and growing - before 2001, this was not a significant problem. So hold baggage charges increasingly penalise people based on what they want to carry not on how much, which grates on me.
If BA make the fare with hand baggage far more than the one without, it will be to me as if their fare for me has gone up a lot, and I will react accordingly (as will my company buying me business tickets, I'm afraid).
#164
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To put it more bluntly: rubbish.
#165
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When I flew to DUB last year, and the ticket was HBO without expedia informing me, check in wouldn't allow me to simply add a bag. I had to upgrade the ticket. I had to chase Expedia for the price difference.