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This is a "clinic" thread, so a great way to find out how to go via Dublin Airport en route to somewhere else (probably!). It covers issues such as back to back flights, overnight stopovers, passport and security issues, and logistical issues. There have been some recent posts about the viability of back to back trips, for which more reports of recent experiences would be helpful. See post 1468 onwards for more information.
Other threads which may well be useful include:
BA Tier Point Runs 2017
Premium Fare deals (J and F)
Ex-Mainland Europe Travel Planning Guide
Back-to-back / Immediate Turnarounds at BA Destinations
Travel with BA from Cork, Shannon and Knock - a pictorial guide
These sorts of flight arrangements aren't for everyone. If you have a family and luggage to check in, the potential cost savings have to weighed against the additional hassle and risk. Generally speaking it is safest to go either back to back or overnight - the latter is easier with checked luggage. The underlying logic for this is in this post.
Other threads which may well be useful include:
BA Tier Point Runs 2017
Premium Fare deals (J and F)
Ex-Mainland Europe Travel Planning Guide
Back-to-back / Immediate Turnarounds at BA Destinations
Travel with BA from Cork, Shannon and Knock - a pictorial guide
These sorts of flight arrangements aren't for everyone. If you have a family and luggage to check in, the potential cost savings have to weighed against the additional hassle and risk. Generally speaking it is safest to go either back to back or overnight - the latter is easier with checked luggage. The underlying logic for this is in this post.
Ex DUB logistics and positioning | clinic thread
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We are doing a ex-eu J to Miami next April on AA via PHL with baggage, currently an 11am departure, and trying to decide if it's OK or too risky to catch the BA832 that morning, landing in DUB at 810.
While flightstats shows only 4 out of the last 62 BA832s as landing late, and it is a first wave flight from Heathrow, I'm aware of the risks of minor schedule changes with both AA & BA shrinking this margin, the immigration queue and the walk from T1 to T2. I have Global Entry, but my wife does not yet (although hoping she gets this on a US trip in Spetember).
Because of the schedue change risk, and immigration queues, I'm leaning towards flying out the night before, but interested in anyone's thoughts on the risk level of flying out on the morning. Unfortunately HBO is not an option.
While flightstats shows only 4 out of the last 62 BA832s as landing late, and it is a first wave flight from Heathrow, I'm aware of the risks of minor schedule changes with both AA & BA shrinking this margin, the immigration queue and the walk from T1 to T2. I have Global Entry, but my wife does not yet (although hoping she gets this on a US trip in Spetember).
Because of the schedue change risk, and immigration queues, I'm leaning towards flying out the night before, but interested in anyone's thoughts on the risk level of flying out on the morning. Unfortunately HBO is not an option.
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For many years people very comfortably managed B2Bs including heading through immigration and security, and it does seem the one report of it being too close for comfort arose because the transfer route was used rather than taking the more conventional (for FT) Fast Track security from landside. Even then, the poster made it.
We have some more stringent passport checks, we have perhaps slightly more walking, but I'd say we don't yet definitively have something that says this is very likely to take 15 minutes longer every time.
We have a number of members heading through the process in the next few weeks, at different times, so hopefully that will allow us to build up a much fuller picture.
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I've done a halfway house update to the wiki, just to highlight the issue, though I fully agree with you that we could probably do with more reports here before putting out stronger health warnings.
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Obviously this is a community wiki and the community is free to edit it as it sees fit, but there may yet be an argument to say - is this really as big a problem as we think, given we don't yet have that much feedback?
For many years people very comfortably managed B2Bs including heading through immigration and security, and it does seem the one report of it being too close for comfort arose because the transfer route was used rather than taking the more conventional (for FT) Fast Track security from landside. Even then, the poster made it.
We have some more stringent passport checks, we have perhaps slightly more walking, but I'd say we don't yet definitively have something that says this is very likely to take 15 minutes longer every time.
We have a number of members heading through the process in the next few weeks, at different times, so hopefully that will allow us to build up a much fuller picture.
For many years people very comfortably managed B2Bs including heading through immigration and security, and it does seem the one report of it being too close for comfort arose because the transfer route was used rather than taking the more conventional (for FT) Fast Track security from landside. Even then, the poster made it.
We have some more stringent passport checks, we have perhaps slightly more walking, but I'd say we don't yet definitively have something that says this is very likely to take 15 minutes longer every time.
We have a number of members heading through the process in the next few weeks, at different times, so hopefully that will allow us to build up a much fuller picture.
Additionally a few with non-EEA passports have already indicated a b2b from the 200 gates is not at all advisable due to immigration queues.
I would agree with those urging caution, and with downgrading DUB as a b2b place. I am not sure I would be comfortable booking it as a b2b anymore.
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So in lieu of a b2b, I am opting for the night before, either LHR-DUB or LCY-DUB.
I plan to book the penultimate flight of the evening, rather than the last one, just in case .. since my ex DUB is first thing the following morning.
What should I have as PlanB ?
I plan to book the penultimate flight of the evening, rather than the last one, just in case .. since my ex DUB is first thing the following morning.
What should I have as PlanB ?
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LGW-DUB has Aer Lingus and Ryanair flights at the south terminal, good options for plan B, C or D
LCY-DUB has CityJet and BA at the same terminal, will you have checked luggage?
LHR has flights from separate terminals which may need extra time for plan B
LCY-DUB has CityJet and BA at the same terminal, will you have checked luggage?
LHR has flights from separate terminals which may need extra time for plan B
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If you are returning to LHR, then take the last DUB flight the night before as this aircraft overnights at DUB and operates the first inbound to LHR the next morning (your first ex-EU), so this flight is generally the last to get cancelled, and if it does, you can ask BA to start your ex-EU from London. The second last flight from either LCY or LHR returns to London that evening and thus if a cancellation occurs, there is no guarantee you'll get to Dublin that night and BA maybe less sympathic if you are not in Dublin for the start of your ex-EU if that aircraft is in position.
If you go via LCY, there is a small risk with either flight from London to Dublin.
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I think from the comments posted already doing a b2b from the 200 gates is now risky. Doing one at the 300 gates, which is the only place previously where a landside route was needed, was a completely different kettle of fish mainly because the immigration queue around the 200 gates are much more variable and busy. That add very significantly to the risk.
Additionally a few with non-EEA passports have already indicated a b2b from the 200 gates is not at all advisable due to immigration queues.
I would agree with those urging caution, and with downgrading DUB as a b2b place. I am not sure I would be comfortable booking it as a b2b anymore.
Additionally a few with non-EEA passports have already indicated a b2b from the 200 gates is not at all advisable due to immigration queues.
I would agree with those urging caution, and with downgrading DUB as a b2b place. I am not sure I would be comfortable booking it as a b2b anymore.
I'm also glad I'm overnighting ahead of my outbound flight next month, but I do have a B2B on the return, albeit not at a busy time for immigration. Whilst I don't have that many options if it goes pear shaped, I'm still relatively relaxed.
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I think it's fair to say your record time may be safe for a while .
I'm also glad I'm overnighting ahead of my outbound flight next month, but I do have a B2B on the return, albeit not at a busy time for immigration. Whilst I don't have that many options if it goes pear shaped, I'm still relatively relaxed.
I'm also glad I'm overnighting ahead of my outbound flight next month, but I do have a B2B on the return, albeit not at a busy time for immigration. Whilst I don't have that many options if it goes pear shaped, I'm still relatively relaxed.
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I am flying ex-DUB in March 2017. I'm on the BA845 Leaving at 1020.
Is it too risky to arrive on the BA830 arriving at 0935 - which is the same aircraft? Gives 45 mins to complete B2B.
Is it too risky to arrive on the BA830 arriving at 0935 - which is the same aircraft? Gives 45 mins to complete B2B.
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Far too risky. You now have to clear immigration, get back through security and back to the gate.
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As noted in the comments above and in the last few posts of the b2b thread, a b2b at DUB isn't what it used to be as the 200 gates are now segregated, and is worse then when the 300 gates were used. I am not sure planning to to a b2b at DUB is really recommended as much at DUB now.
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Certainly risky these days. If you are leaving aircraft by stairs it could easily be 10 minutes before you get to passport control, and there may be a queue there. Allowing 15 mins to get through there, exit baggage hall, go upstairs to departures and clear security (which is not guaranteed) you'd be pretty close to needing to run to the gate.
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As noted in the comments above and in the last few posts of the b2b thread, a b2b at DUB isn't what it used to be as the 200 gates are now segregated, and is worse then when the 300 gates were used. I am not sure planning to to a b2b at DUB is really recommended as much at DUB now.
On the return turnaround it becomes much more a risk decision given the costs of putting any mishap right are possibly many thousands of pounds less!