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Old Jan 28, 2015, 1:49 pm
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The changes in summary
Applicable to bookings made from 28 April 2015
For more information, see BA's 28 January announcement and FAQ on ba.com

Earning
Changes to Avios accrual rates and tier bonuses
  • earning rates increase for flights booked in F, A, J, C, D, and W selling classes
  • no change for flights booked in R, I, Y, B, and H selling classes
  • earning rates reduce for flights booked in E, T, K, L, M, N, S, V, Q, O, and G selling classes

Earning with partners
Reduced earnings in Economy and Premium Economy
AA, IBERIA, JAL, LAN, TAM, ALASKA, SRI LANKAN, QANTAS, CATHAY.

Changes to tier bonuses
  • no change to Gold tier bonuses (100%)
  • Silver tier bonuses reduce from 100% to 50%
  • no change to Bronze tier bonuses (25%)

Changes to minimum Avios amounts (accrued per flight)
  • minimum thresholds increase for long haul premium fares (F, A, J, C, D, W)
  • no change to restricted business class fares (R and I class) and flexible econony (Y, B, and H class)
  • minimum thresholds decrease for WT+ (E and T class) - although there are no BA WTP flights that short
  • minimum thresholds decrease from 500 to 250 Avios for mid priced economy (K, L, M, N, S, and V classes)
  • minimum thresholds decrease from 500 to 125 Avios for cheapest economy (Q, O, and G classes)

Changes to Tier Point earning rates
  • Club World London City flights reduce from 210 to 140 Tier Points
  • Cheapest economy flights (in selling classes Q, O, and G) reduce from 50% to 25% Tier Points
  • No change to minimum 2/4 segments for earning Bronze/Others
  • No change to 25 segment / 50 segment Bronze/Silver earning option
  • No other changes, thresholds still Bronze 300,Silver 600,Gold 1500,GGL 5000 (3000 to retain)

Spending
Promise of greater reward inventory/availability
  • Guaranteed minimum 4 seats in economy on every flight
  • Guaranteed minimum 2 seats in business on every flight
  • Guaranteed seats will be available to book from 355 days before departure and may vanish 45 days before departure, if not already booked.

Changes to standard flight redemption rates
  • Variable rates introduced divided into Off-peak and Peak
  • For Peak time (school holidays and other busy times), and partner costs
  • WT - stays the same cost
  • WTP increases - from x1.5 to x2.0 multiplier (33% increase)
  • Club World increases - from x2.0 to x3.0 multiplier (50% increase)
  • First increases - from x3.0 to x4.0 multiplier (33% increase)
  • For Off Peak time (including every Tuesday and Wednesday throughout the year)
  • WT decreases by 35% from current values
  • WT decreases by 13% from current values
  • Club World increases by 25% from current values
  • First increases by 13% from current values
  • Free domestic add-ons abolished on short haul redemptions
  • No word if CE redemptions will be charged 4500/Ł17.50 or 9000/Ł25 for the UK leg
  • Variable rates introduced on Iberia
  • Flight redemptions on BA's other airline partners will be charged at Peak rates all year round

Changes to Upgrade with Avios
  • Eligible booking codes is set to increase in the near future, allowing mile upgrades from economy (WT and ET) for more travellers - K, L, M, N, S, and V classes added (exact fare codes subject to confirmation)
  • Avios required for upgrade now based on the formula: Avios redemption price for the cabin you want to upgrade to, minus the Avios redemption price for the cabin you have paid for with cash. This means that certain off peak WTP to CW upgrades are more expensive than peak WTP to CW upgrades (assuming peak/off-peak variables will apply to UuA)
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Old Mar 9, 2015, 5:14 pm
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Originally Posted by T8191
I should call my Lawyer? Or organise a 'Placard Party" outside Waterside? Or loot a few shops?

Excuse me, Sir, we're British. Those in the "Former Colony" made their own decisions between 1775-1783 ... we don't forget these things.
Only jesting, I love the USA for all its flaws ... we're back in June and September You have a good week, Sir!
I'm Canadian.... I like the queen on our money. In all honestly, I suspect nothing could have been done to stop the changes.
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Old Mar 9, 2015, 5:47 pm
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Originally Posted by happeemonkee
I penned an email to CR expressing my disappointment with the changes, specifically the removal of free feeder flights from the regions for RFS fares.

This is the response

Dear HAPPEEMONKEE

Thanks for your recent email about the changes we’ve made to our On Business programme. I apologise for the delay in replying to you. You’re clearly disappointed we’re changing the way you redeem points. I completely understand why you’re disappointed with the changes we’ve made but I’d like to explain why these are happening blah blah blah.


...??? I never mentioned On Business!! I'm not even a member.
Their customer service people are just piloting the new "give everyone what they do not want" HBO seat assignment software
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Old Mar 11, 2015, 6:29 am
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Originally Posted by hugolover
Yes: "We based our changes on our interpretation of changes at other airlines, so we advise you to fly them". Signed, BA.
In all seriousness, our BA account manager told me I would be better off flying with other airlines.
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Old Mar 11, 2015, 6:47 am
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Originally Posted by paulwuk
In all seriousness, our BA account manager told me I would be better off flying with other airlines.
Well of course. I could tell you that. I've never seen you write one positive thing about them.
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Old Mar 11, 2015, 7:04 am
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If I expand Changes to reward flight prices with British Airways on this page a table is displayed referencing Zones 1 - 9. Where are these zones defined? I am looking for a URL on ba.com, I know how to find the information on FlyerTalk.
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Old Mar 11, 2015, 8:13 am
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Originally Posted by mia
If I expand Changes to reward flight prices with British Airways on this page a table is displayed referencing Zones 1 - 9. Where are these zones defined? I am looking for a URL on ba.com, I know how to find the information on FlyerTalk.
Try this. On BA.com it can be deduced from the Avios availability map, but there isn't an explicit list (as far as I know).
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Old Mar 11, 2015, 8:32 am
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Originally Posted by LondonAndy
... On BA.com it can be deduced from the Avios availability map, but there isn't an explicit list (as far as I know).
This map?

https://www.britishairways.com/trave..._us?eId=106160

Sorry, the map to check flight prices and availability is not working at the moment.
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Old Mar 11, 2015, 8:52 am
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That BA map hasn't been working for at least 6 months!
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Old Mar 11, 2015, 8:57 am
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Originally Posted by slhansen219
That BA map hasn't been working for at least 6 months!
However the one on AA does work, if you interpret it carefully.
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Old Mar 11, 2015, 3:35 pm
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Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave
However the one on AA does work, if you interpret it carefully.
No wonder I could not get it going (BA map) yesterday when I tried several times. Cost me a couple of hours.
While on this subject, can anyone please tell me how do I find out what in avios and money it would cost me to fly between BCn. ORD one way ? Thank you.
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Old Mar 11, 2015, 4:54 pm
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Originally Posted by Calchas
Well of course. I could tell you that. I've never seen you write one positive thing about them.
Brilliant. Was about to say the same thing.
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Old Mar 11, 2015, 9:46 pm
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Originally Posted by Wozza2404
I quite like the fact that the outrage in this thread, which was directed at some pretty significant devaluations, has fizzled out so quickly. Yet the lounge food thread was raging for months!
That is because there is a (temporary) solution for this, while the lounge situation has no solution.
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Old Mar 12, 2015, 2:28 am
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Originally Posted by Wozza2404
I get it, I just had to smile at the way it went from 60-0 so quickly.
That's what happens when you hit a brick wall.
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Old Mar 12, 2015, 2:29 am
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Originally Posted by EuropeanPete
BA Customer Service appear to have gone into random mode again. I remember a few years ago when there were a lot of issues people were complaining about that they'd get canned responses back for random questions.
Yes, the food has improved in the lounges.
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Old Mar 12, 2015, 2:45 am
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Originally Posted by Paralytic
Yes, the food has improved in the lounges.
It really depends what you are looking at, so I certainly wouldn't be that categorical...
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