Originally Posted by orbitmic

I must say that to me this seems to specifically apply to the changes already announced a few weeks ago and not to the future changes we were forewarned about. Some could try to follow up on the argument you make and suggest that this should apply to it, but I suspect that if BA announces otherwise, they might be in for an uphill battle unless they are ready to go all the way to court.

For what it's worth, the point I am making is not merely rhetorical and I genuinely wouldn't be sure that the criterion will be based on booking date. There is a big difference between BA bookings (for which BAEC automatically know when the booking was made in addition to when the flight is flown) and partner bookings (where partners will forward information about the flights flown and booking class but not automatically on when the ticket was booked). In that sense, it would be a bit of a hassle for BAEC to base a rule on booking time as it would force them to ask partners to provide information which is not usually readily available to BAEC.

In that sense, my guess would be that it is in fact more likely that when partner earnings are changed, it will probably be based on "flights taken after xxx" rather than "booked after". And my guess is that the said "flown after" date will most certainly fall in 2015 so I would be very surprised if 2016 flights (and for that matter, probably flights flown in the second half of 2015) were eligible regardless of when they were booked.

Originally Posted by Calchas

Very curiously, I've noticed that when I've been buying BA tickets, I get a duplicate made of every non-BA flight both in the PNR and also printed on the e-ticket. The ghost sectors appear at the time of ticketing, not at the time reservations are made.

The flights are all numbered as XX 9999 (where XX is say, AA), and all happen on the same day that the ticket was issued.

I wonder what would happen if I had more than 8 foreign sectors

My guess is this is the mechanism BA is using to keep track of non-BA sectors. Why it can't just keep a copy of the PNR, I don't know.

Originally Posted by orbitmic

On this particular case, however, I'm guessing that this is indeed only available on BA-booked tickets or perhaps any ticket that includes BA sectors. However, most partner tickets would be just that - a "pure" CX or QR or AY etc itinerary, and I am guessing that in those particular cases, BA holds no ticket element at all and it is simply the operating airline which (either automatically or manually depending on the case with the former being most frequent) sends BAEC a credit note confirming flights taken and booking class (but not date of booking which is in effect irrelevant in normal cases) for BAEC to credit the relevant avios.

Originally Posted by gcuk

I have a booking made on AA.com for August for flights to the US on a BA flight number and a number of internal flights on AA. The TP and Avios shown in the booking summary on the BA PNR (which I had to phone AA to get) and includes all sectors, total what would be awarded under the current TP and Avios earning chart.
I guess I should take a screen print of that just in case.

Originally Posted by orbitmic

.....BA have guaranteed existing earnings on BA for flights booked till 28/4, they have said partner earnings will be announced later (I assume this is what yohoho is asking about rather than partner awards which we already know about) and we can't possibly guess whether any change will again be linked to booking date rather than flight date, nor about any grace period. They certainly haven't committed to anything at this stage.

Originally Posted by HMPS

Most people put off divorce " for the sake of the kids". Who are the children in this case ? Status & avios ?

Originally Posted by mkjr

I'm Canadian.... I like the queen on our money. In all honestly, I suspect nothing could have been done to stop the changes.

Originally Posted by Travellair

However, the calculator does mention:

Avios rates are changing.
The Avios and Tier Point amounts shown below are for flights booked before 28 April 2015.

No exceptions specified. Wouldn’t it be reasonable to think that the statement applied to all the airlines in the drop-down menu?

Originally Posted by BOH

Just a quick question on the TP earnings after the April 28th changes - this question may well have been answered up-thread but there are too many posts to wade through now!

For short-haul I usually buy the cheapest available Y fare and then (if the price is right) upgrade to CE using POUG on at least the inbound or outbound sector. 99% of the reason for me using POUG is simply to ensure I earn enough TP's for Silver re-qualification each year.

This means on a typical return trip in Europe I will earn 50 TPs.....10 on the Y sector and 40 on the CE part.

But after April 28th (when the cheapest Y fare buckets then only earn 5 TP's), what would happen if I did a POUG on that very cheap Y sector? Wouls 40TPs still be awarded or does that also halve....ie only 20 TP's for the CE sector now?

Originally Posted by Alec84

I realize that it is too early to say and that this might have been discussed somewhere on the previous pages, but have there been any reports about AA changing the wonderful 100% earning on all BA (and AY for that matter) booking classes?

Originally Posted by paul4040

Nothing solid, only rumour thus far. But bet your life on it being eroded.

Originally Posted by Alec84

I realize that it is too early to say and that this might have been discussed somewhere on the previous pages, but have there been any reports about AA changing the wonderful 100% earning on all BA (and AY for that matter) booking classes?