Changes to Gold Guest List Qualification Criteria
Nov 26, 2014, 10:38 am
#166
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They are super helpful when your flight is amongst almost every BA flight today that has been cancelled from LCY due to fog (ugh!) and you need to rebook ASAP.
Nov 26, 2014, 10:52 am
#167
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Let's straighten something out- has anyone, ever, in the history of the BA board / TP run thread done a TP run with the sole purpose of getting GGL by way of 3000TPs 2 years in a row? The only TP runs I have heard about are for people who want to get silver, get gold or get a CCR card, surely? I would be happy to be proved wrong.
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Nov 26, 2014, 10:59 am
#168
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Changes to Gold Guest List Qualification Criteria
Would also like to say thanks to Jeni for the clear FAQs posted. Was nicely reassuring to be able to come on here after my Hilliergram and have an immediate, official answer
On the GGL line point would echo others - for the twiddly bookings they're remarkably on the ball, and also really proactive. Getting a proactive call about a schedule change 6 months in advance, someone who is able to commit to calling back in 15 mins and then works through the schedules is great (my closest previous encounter pre-GGL was changing a booking and it took an age, with multiple calls and price checks etc)
On the GGL line point would echo others - for the twiddly bookings they're remarkably on the ball, and also really proactive. Getting a proactive call about a schedule change 6 months in advance, someone who is able to commit to calling back in 15 mins and then works through the schedules is great (my closest previous encounter pre-GGL was changing a booking and it took an age, with multiple calls and price checks etc)
Nov 26, 2014, 11:06 am
#169
Join Date: Jan 2005
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I was going say a few unimportant things since this doesn't affect me mostly surrounding the fact that I still don't believe those on this board who say that status is really easy to get blah blah blah
However the news from SteveF about Adblocker Plus really trumps this piffling BAEC announcement ^
However the news from SteveF about Adblocker Plus really trumps this piffling BAEC announcement ^
Nov 26, 2014, 11:13 am
#170
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The revenue sharing arrangement underpins the metal neutrality of the venture.
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Nov 26, 2014, 11:34 am
#171
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I read my email from Mr. Hillier this morning and then headed for FT to read people's thoughts.
As far as I can tell the only change announced so far is the first year qualification for GGL.
Isn't this all much ado about very little indeed?
As far as I can tell the only change announced so far is the first year qualification for GGL.
Isn't this all much ado about very little indeed?
Nov 26, 2014, 11:48 am
#172
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On a scale of "JW Blue" <> "Monopole" where does this sit?
Nov 26, 2014, 12:03 pm
#174
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Interestingly, having thought about this, I think if I weren't one of the ones who will qualify under the new notice period, BA would lose about half my current flight revenue each year as I would stop at 1500TPs. Likely I'd go back to EY.
I'm sure they've DNS the sums but I wonder how many others will be doing the same thing and stopping once they hit requalification?
I'm sure they've DNS the sums but I wonder how many others will be doing the same thing and stopping once they hit requalification?
Nov 26, 2014, 12:16 pm
#175
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Absolutely! Thank you SteveF 
Edited to add that whilst this change won't impact me and I agree with it on principle I certainly would be upset if the change occurred during my second qualification year. I think BA should have allowed those in that predicament to attain GGL by the end of their membership year rather than a specific date. Moving the goal posts after someone has achieved 3000 in the first year with the intention of achieving the same in the second year is somewhat unfair.
Edited to add that whilst this change won't impact me and I agree with it on principle I certainly would be upset if the change occurred during my second qualification year. I think BA should have allowed those in that predicament to attain GGL by the end of their membership year rather than a specific date. Moving the goal posts after someone has achieved 3000 in the first year with the intention of achieving the same in the second year is somewhat unfair.
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Nov 26, 2014, 12:34 pm
#176
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Many people who are or will be GGL by the "deadline" - including myself - would have never made it at 5000 TP in one year on their current pattern, so no, I do not think it is fair for people like you and me to dismiss it as much ado about nothing while for some others it is all their hopes of becoming GGL which vanish.
Nov 26, 2014, 12:34 pm
#177
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Several points from me
1. Thank you Jeni for posting, and the detail being clear enough to understand. It seems this story even beat the FT rumourmill too
2. I'd like to think this change for GGL, by BAEC, is to stave off a sudden burst in numbers which has diluted (further) the value of other BAEC tiers. I can certainly imagine the oneworld US/AA and QR flyers are swelling the 3000tp ranks if they are crediting to BAEC.
3. I would suspect this also helps pave the way for increases to the Silver and Gold thresholds ... probably also needed. [my underline]
4. You know, I was considering the 3k and 3k route into GGL. I have more flights these days, and qualified for Gold just 3 weeks into my year this time. But a single 5k year is not that tough for me, bring forward a holiday a few weeks and visit some US West Coast wineries (Staged via EU, LCY and somewhere on the East Coast). I suspect I'll go for it.
5. I see where other posters are coming from re. the Short notice period. But at least on this occasion there IS a notice period! The Euro-Gold notice remains the high watermark though.
For me, all-in-all a net plus providing GGL can actually deliver the "service" to high standard going forward.
1. Thank you Jeni for posting, and the detail being clear enough to understand. It seems this story even beat the FT rumourmill too
2. I'd like to think this change for GGL, by BAEC, is to stave off a sudden burst in numbers which has diluted (further) the value of other BAEC tiers. I can certainly imagine the oneworld US/AA and QR flyers are swelling the 3000tp ranks if they are crediting to BAEC.
3. I would suspect this also helps pave the way for increases to the Silver and Gold thresholds ... probably also needed. [my underline]
4. You know, I was considering the 3k and 3k route into GGL. I have more flights these days, and qualified for Gold just 3 weeks into my year this time. But a single 5k year is not that tough for me, bring forward a holiday a few weeks and visit some US West Coast wineries (Staged via EU, LCY and somewhere on the East Coast
). I suspect I'll go for it.5. I see where other posters are coming from re. the Short notice period. But at least on this occasion there IS a notice period! The Euro-Gold notice remains the high watermark though.
For me, all-in-all a net plus providing GGL can actually deliver the "service" to high standard going forward.
I thought we were the nice, humble, people around here? BAEC society's 'bottom feeders', who cause no trouble to anyone?
Nov 26, 2014, 12:35 pm
#178
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Absolutely! Thank you SteveF
Edited to add that whilst this change won't impact me and I agree with it on principle I certainly would be upset if the change occurred during my second qualification year. I think BA should have allowed those in that predicament to attain GGL by the end of their membership year rather than a specific date. Moving the goal posts after someone has achieved 3000 in the first year with the intention of achieving the same in the second year is somewhat unfair.
Edited to add that whilst this change won't impact me and I agree with it on principle I certainly would be upset if the change occurred during my second qualification year. I think BA should have allowed those in that predicament to attain GGL by the end of their membership year rather than a specific date. Moving the goal posts after someone has achieved 3000 in the first year with the intention of achieving the same in the second year is somewhat unfair.
Nov 26, 2014, 12:47 pm
#180
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The change as it stands doesn't affect me, but I'd hope that if at some point, it does become 5000 to maintain (which quite honest wouldn't surprise me given the way the wind seems to be below), we get a full TP collection year to achieve it.