Changes to Gold Guest List Qualification Criteria
#106
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#107
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BTW just to be clear in my comments I said if there were ever too many CCR card holders it would make sense to raise the threshold. I don't believe that's the case now (and you have more experience of the place than I do) but if it ever does happen then it would make sense to raise the thresholds or move some more flights to T3
I have no personal interest in raising the TP required for a CCR card as it'd make it even harder for me to ever get one, and on my average of twice a year F trips I've never encountered an overcrowded CCR.
I have no personal interest in raising the TP required for a CCR card as it'd make it even harder for me to ever get one, and on my average of twice a year F trips I've never encountered an overcrowded CCR.
#108
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If, as I understand it, non GGL members who then attain status are able to renew status by earning 3,000 Tier Points in the next collection year, then in fact it's only the initial attainment of status which will be more difficult now. That is of course if I have understood this change correctly.
#109
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I got chatting to three men in the lounge last week (who were sat at the table next to me drinking quite a lot of fizz and consequently in a chatty mood...) They were travelling together on their 3rd TP run of the year to qualify for GGL. They'd done it last year too.
The interesting thing was that, when I questioned their lunacy (!) they all said they knew of other friends who'd been TP running every year to achieve GGL - especially for the jokers? I asked if they posted here on FT (expecting one of them to be a recognisable name) and they all looked at me with a blank face and then asked me all about it!!
Safe to say there may be more people out there wise in the ways of TPs and whatnot than we might initially assume?
Anyway...
I guess the really interesting part of this is "what happens now"?
It seems possibly inevitable that the basic GOLD qualifying threshhold needs to rise as a result. If you can qualify in one or two trips then it really isn't an 'elite' status is it?
Interesting times ahead I think.
#110
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Some times have been easy as pie, others more difficult because other GGLs are already using their space releases on my flight.
For me it has always been resolved by shifting by a day or so though, so no great drama.
I wouldn't want the situation to become more difficult than that though, otherwise there is really no point having a so-called 'exclusive' tier for those of us who have to endure the (mostly) pain of very regular flying on business.
For me it has always been resolved by shifting by a day or so though, so no great drama.
I wouldn't want the situation to become more difficult than that though, otherwise there is really no point having a so-called 'exclusive' tier for those of us who have to endure the (mostly) pain of very regular flying on business.
#111
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#112
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I was wondering about this only the other day! The difference between the semi-closeted world of the FT BAEC Forum and the world beyond our digital borders....
I got chatting to three men in the lounge last week (who were sat at the table next to me drinking quite a lot of fizz and consequently in a chatty mood...) They were travelling together on their 3rd TP run of the year to qualify for GGL. They'd done it last year too.
The interesting thing was that, when I questioned their lunacy (!) they all said they knew of other friends who'd been TP running every year to achieve GGL - especially for the jokers? I asked if they posted here on FT (expecting one of them to be a recognisable name) and they all looked at me with a blank face and then asked me all about it!!
Safe to say there may be more people out there wise in the ways of TPs and whatnot than we might initially assume?
I got chatting to three men in the lounge last week (who were sat at the table next to me drinking quite a lot of fizz and consequently in a chatty mood...) They were travelling together on their 3rd TP run of the year to qualify for GGL. They'd done it last year too.
The interesting thing was that, when I questioned their lunacy (!) they all said they knew of other friends who'd been TP running every year to achieve GGL - especially for the jokers? I asked if they posted here on FT (expecting one of them to be a recognisable name) and they all looked at me with a blank face and then asked me all about it!!
Safe to say there may be more people out there wise in the ways of TPs and whatnot than we might initially assume?
#113
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#114
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#116
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I've never been anywhere close to GGL nor ever likely to be even if the current criteria were to continue but this is yet another reason never to make long term plans with FF programmes. The rug can all too easily be pulled from under you without notice.
Very fair of BA to offer some protection and I'm pleased for those already through the door.
Very fair of BA to offer some protection and I'm pleased for those already through the door.
Last edited by Blueboys999; Nov 26, 2014 at 7:18 am
#118
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#119
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QR may have a little to do with this
Now that QR have joined, I suspect a lot more people are qualifying. I recently needed to go to Asia and instead of Club's mouthwateringly high £3,600 for the date in question, went with QR for £1,800. Needless to say, that trip was worth 560tps rather than 280. I would still choose the direct option every time if price is reasonable. Other additions to One world have not changed the game so much. E.g., flying MH instead of BA gives the same TPs on most routes, but because QR itineraries all stop midway necessitating 2 long haul flights for every Europe - Asia trip, that must have had an effect.
I am surprised they are not trying to introduce some more criteria relating to the number of TPs earned on BA.
I am surprised they are not trying to introduce some more criteria relating to the number of TPs earned on BA.
#120
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What is most noticeable is the wait times on the GGL line; they used to answer without even a ring, not it's not uncommon to wait 3,4,5 minutes, or even give up try again later.
Also, it's noticeable over the years that the team has grown with a lot of new (less familiar with the rules and the "perks") team members. In the early years, you got to know all the team, and many of the got to know you and your travel patterns. It's great to have that rapport with some of the team who have been there since the beginning, and they are absolute stars.
But more often that not, the call will be answered by someone you haven't spoken to before and that "personal touch" has gone.