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To avoid having to search through this multi-page thread, here is the crucial info contributed by several of the BA posters on this board. The full list of MF operated routes is as follows:

Updated 14 JAN 2020

Longhaul
Abu Dhabi (AUH)
Abuja (ABV) Moves WW > MF 01APR
Amman (AMM)
Atlanta (ATL)
Austin (AUS)

Baltimore (BWI) Moves WW > MF 01 APR
Bangkok (BKK) Moves MF > WW 01APR
Beijing (PKX)
Beirut (BEY)
Boston (BOS) - BA238/9 only
Buenos Aires (EZE)
Cairo (CAI)
Cape Town (CPT)
Chicago (ORD) - BA294/5 only until 31MAR. BA296/7 from 01APR
Delhi (DEL) - BA143/142 only until 31MAR. BA257/6 from 01APR

Denver (DEN) Moves WW > MF MAR only

Doha (DOH) Moves WW > MF 01APR
Dubai (DXB) - BA108/9 only. BA104/5 moves MF > WW 01APR
Durban (DUR)
Grand Cayman (GCM)

Hong Kong (HKG) - BA31/32 only Moves WW > MF 01APR
Houston (IAH)

Hyderabad (HYD)
Johannesburg (JNB)
Kuala Lumpur (KUL)

Kuwait (KWI) Moves WW > MF 30MAR
Las Vegas (LAS)
Los Angeles (LAX) - BA280/281 only
Miami (MIA) - BA208/9 only. BA206/7 moves MF > WW 01APR
Moscow (DME/SVO)
Muscat (MCT)
Nairobi (NBO) Moves MF > WW 30MAR
Nassau (NAS)
Osaka (KIX)
Phoenix (PHX)
Pittsburgh (PIT)

Portland (PDX) New to MF
San Diego (SAN)
San José (SJC)
Santiago (SCL)
Seattle (SEA)
Seoul (ICN)
Shanghai (PVG)
Singapore (SIN) - BA15/16 only
Sydney (SYD)
Tel Aviv (TLV)
Toronto (YYZ)
Vancouver (YVR)

Shorthaul
Aberdeen (ABZ)
Barcelona (BCN)
Bastia (BIA)
Belfast City (BHD)
Bologna (BLQ)
Brussels (BRU)
Bucharest (OTP)
Budapest (BUD)
Chánia (CHQ)
Copenhagen (CPH) Moves EF > MF 30MAR
Corfu (CFU)

Dalaman (DLM) New to MF
Dublin (DUB)
Düsseldorf (DUS)
Faro (FAO)
Frankfurt (FRA)
Gothenburg (GOT)
Hamburg (HAM)
Helsinki (HEL)
Ibiza (IBZ)
Kalamata (KLX)
Kos (KGS)
Kraków (KRK)
Larnaca (LCA)
Las Palmas (LPA)
Leeds\Bradford (LBA)
Lisbon (LIS)
Ljubljana (LJU)
Luxembourg (LUX)
Lyon (LYS)
Madrid (MAD) - BA460/461 only
Manchester (MAN)
Milan-Linate (LIN)

Montpellier (MPL) New to MF
Munich (MUC)
Mykonos (JMK)
Olbia (OLB)
Palma (PMI)

Perugia (PEG)

Podrodica (PGD)
Reykjavík (KEF)
Rhodes (RHO)
St. Petersburg (LED)
Santorini (JTR)
Split (SPU)
Sofia (SOF)
Stockholm-Arlanda (ARN)
Tenerife-South (TFS)
Vienna (VIE)
Zagreb (ZAG)

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Aug 7, 2014, 2:54 pm

#46

waspsl

Join Date: Feb 2012

Location: Fareham, UK

Programs: BA GGL+CCR, HHonors Dia, Hyatt Dia

Posts: 273

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gold77

What is the impact of having a mixed fleet crew or not on the passenger service?

IME the MF tend to be younger and with less experience but as far as passenger service is concerned not a great deal nowadays.

I have had great and not so great service from both MF and WW to the same degree although the golden tickets i have dished out have been to MF crew so in reflection must say something.

I would be interested to know the reason behind the question unless it is pure curiosity.

Aug 7, 2014, 3:13 pm

#47

bullroot

Join Date: Mar 2005

Location: Seattle

Programs: BA GGL & LTG, EK Silver, HHonors Lifetime Diamond; Proudly Mucci Free - total nonsense

Posts: 862

Quote:

Originally Posted by PJSMITH0

Looking at the list I had WW crew then on my flight from ATL and the female crew member looking after me in F was so hot she was sizzling, and as a bonus fantastic at her job.

Lucky you! Nice when that happens. Rare, but nice.

Aug 7, 2014, 3:39 pm

#48

markzz2

Join Date: Mar 2009

Location: London UK

Programs: BA Gold/Marriott Titanium Lifetime/UA/JetBlue

Posts: 618

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flexible preferences

Sounds fun! Thanks for clearing that up for me

Having just done one I can from personal experience say that fun is not a word I would use for a back to back!

4 transatlantic flights in 5-6 days (depending on which flights you get) is exhausting, but very efficient for BA. Most East Coast flights are linked as Back to Backs.

I do quite like checking in for the second half knowing I am working with a crew I know though.

Aug 7, 2014, 6:03 pm

#49

Gold77

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Join Date: Jul 2013

Location: LHR

Programs: BA Gold, AF Gold, some hotels...

Posts: 547

Quote:

Originally Posted by waspsl

I would be interested to know the reason behind the question unless it is pure curiosity.

Hi waspsl - very simple: I don't tend to worry too much about the employment policies of suppliers, whether BA, Tesco or Coutts as long as their level of service meets my expectations.
Given my inflight service experiences have been fine to date, I had therefore never followed the mixed fleet versus other fleet rationales and debates.
But there seems to have been a recent surge in people wondering if such and such flight is mixed fleet or not, and hence I was wondering if I have missed something, or am just not discerning enough service-wise. It must clearly be the latter

Aug 7, 2014, 8:31 pm

#50

sp4294

Join Date: Aug 2011

Posts: 2,187

Quote:

Originally Posted by PJSMITH0

I have had several trips in both F and J this year and I have no idea what crew was on the flight other than they were all professional friendly and did a great job.

Certainly agree with this. MF does seem more polished now. No complaints either way here.

Could someone summarize the general differences in contracts?

Aug 8, 2014, 12:45 am

#51

A P Yu

Join Date: Jan 2007

Location: UK

Programs: Tufty Club (Gold), BAGA Gymnastics level 4, 440yds swimming certificate

Posts: 2,533

Quote:

Originally Posted by sp4294

Could someone summarize the general differences in contracts?

The General Differences are that they have to work harder and are paid less.

By Working Harder I mean they work to scheduling agreements which are harsher than the agreements the other fleets have e.g. Fewer Days off after trips, they can do duties which are longer hours, BA have much more flexibility over changes to their rosters (within reason) etc. (There are more differences but you get the jist)

By being paid less I mean they are paid less money for flying (They get an hourly rate rather than allowances based payments which other fleets get - the allowances based approach is more lucrative for the crew).

Aug 8, 2014, 9:38 am

#52

waspsl

Join Date: Feb 2012

Location: Fareham, UK

Programs: BA GGL+CCR, HHonors Dia, Hyatt Dia

Posts: 273

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gold77

Quote:

Originally Posted by waspsl

I would be interested to know the reason behind the question unless it is pure curiosity.

Cheers Gold, I am not sure not discerning is fair. The difference is very marginal now, I find the MF a little slower but more enthusiastic and as younger a better chance of some window shopping.

Aug 20, 2014, 6:11 am

#53

Door1Left

Join Date: Jun 2012

Location: London Heathrow

Programs: BAEC

Posts: 173

Further route changes have been released to the crew community for the upcoming winter season, again no difference should be experienced in levels of service and further changes could and no doubt will occur.

Denver (DEN) returns to MF for 1 month only - October.
Lyon (LYS) and Basle (BSL) return to EF - December.
Marseilles (MRS) and Sofia (SOF) return to EF for 1 month only - January.

Regards
D1L

These views are my own and do not reflect those of my employer.

Sep 3, 2014, 3:02 pm

#54

jwhite9185

Join Date: Jul 2014

Location: Surrey, UK

Programs: BA Gold, *A Gold, IHG Platinum

Posts: 654

I had MF on my flight to PHL last Friday. At least I'm assuming they were MF as the female crew wore hats.

It was the BA69 operated by the 787.

Sep 3, 2014, 3:06 pm

#55

Can I help you

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Posts: 19,107

No there were WW crew, all WW crew wear hats on the A380 and B787.
At present MF are not B787 licenced.

Sep 3, 2014, 3:42 pm

#56

Speedbird876

Join Date: Oct 2013

Programs: BA Gold GGL

Posts: 1,068

To determine Mixed Fleet or not, as CIHY says, the hats can give you a clue but are not definite.

You actually need to look at the men's haircuts

This is 100% fool-proof

EF/WW = normal

Mixed Fleet = trendy, normally longer, lots of gel involved, partings in odd places,

Sep 3, 2014, 3:44 pm

#57

Can I help you

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Also check for full make up on or no make up on ....... and that only the men.

Oct 27, 2014, 6:55 am

#58

Down Low

Join Date: Jul 2014

Location: London

Programs: BAEC Silver

Posts: 772

Spring 2015 Mixed Fleet will lose Los Angeles and gain Washington, Johannesburg and San Diego.

Oct 27, 2014, 9:05 am

#59

81romeo

Join Date: Oct 2013

Location: London, UK

Programs: BAEC GGL/CCR; TK Elite; ITA Executive; Hilton Diamond; Marriott Bonvoy Platinum

Posts: 1,551

Quote:

Originally Posted by Can I help you

Also check for full make up on or no make up on ....... and that only the men.

Oh gosh...this is sooooo true....

Oct 27, 2014, 3:32 pm

#60

Down Low

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Posts: 772

Quote:

Originally Posted by 81romeo

Oh gosh...this is sooooo true....

Almost always the case :P