Tobias-UK

And what exactly would be achieved by judicial review in the circumstances you mention?

DELLAS

And long may it last. I think that both UK and ROI should stay out and keep the CTA with closer co operation and tighter immigration. The Irish have toughened up over the years too and lots of illegals were deported. Spot checks along the border too for those that are not Irish/British/EU citizens or have a legal right to be here. ^

stifle

VS Little Red isn't moving until November AFAIK. But it would seem likely that the Gold Circle lounge will close in July, the Irish mile and the BA UK/Ireland lounge in October, and the gate 8 area thereafter.
You'd probably get declaratory relief and a story on page 20 of a newspaper nobody reads. Not all court cases have a point.

Tobias-UK

well you've manage to confused me there!

One principle I learned very early on in law school, cases without a point never get to court ... because there is no case!

paulwuk

Scotland will have to join schengen assuming it joins the EU post-independence. And adopt the euro.

Calchas

Has anyone told Alex Salmond that?

Marcusm

CTA derives from an effective agreement between the countries, the uK has incorporated it into legislation which effectively can be enforced by the relevant travellers. Ireland hasn't therefore it's hard to see it as a right which can be enforced personally rather than enforced by one government against the other.

Poxball

Good lord! A terminal change results in the possibility of British withdrawal and a full on civil war

And why not have a CTA with a pegged one to one Scottish to sterling pound?

ardboe

You'd be surprised what little could spark something off over here.

paulwuk

I believe any country joining the EU has to pledge to join both Schengen and the Euro.

Ignoring that, yes as I understand it, Scotland could do a Gibraltar, as long as their currency is backed by having enough of the UK's currency in it's vaults for a 1:1 mapping. Otherwise it would diverge. That means no printing money, and makes it impractical to set it's own interest rates.

Walk into a Belfast bar and shout "Guinness Sucks"?

AA_EXP09

Not printing money is a good thing IMO...
(to stop it from being devalued.)

DELLAS

Indeed only a local can know, I don't fancy having to show my passport to do my weekly shop in Tesco

Poxball

The reality of EU membership would be that Scotland as an eu member would be required to strive for euro membership but would have a derogation whilst it proved it met the criteria a la Sweden. These criteria would include exchange rate stability and membership of the ERM. In reality they would continue hitched to sterling as they do now and in time would decouple from sterling into the ERM still having its own Scottish pound. Finally after probably a decade if things were stable they would be allowed into the euro.

Alternatively they could just be like Norway with membership of the European Economic Area and a common travel area with the UK and presumably Ireland.

Think you're watching too many movies on those flights you're on Paul. I think if you mentioned the pope or the queen you'd get a reaction depending on the particular bar but if you went ahead with your Guinness put down, I reckon northern Irish Protestants and Catholics would for once unite in asking "what is the clown at the door on about?"

Cap'n Benj

Lager is actually drunk more in Ireland (and Northern Ireland) than guiness, so they may get more offended if you query the pedigree of their Harp (or whatever Irish brands there are)!

layz

You've enhanced away an 'n'!

Isn't Heineken the best selling lager brand in Ireland?