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Jan 24, 2018, 3:21 am
#2911
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Aberdeenshire
Programs: BAEC Silver
Posts: 153
We get to claim points for corporate rate hotel bookings made and prepaid by our employing company. This includes Hilton, Marriott, Fairmont, Radisson & Le Meridien that I know off.
Jan 24, 2018, 3:26 am
#2912
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Aberdeenshire
Programs: BAEC Silver
Posts: 153
Often wondered how much longer a flight actually takes when it has to fly past the airport and land in the opposite direction instead of a straight in approach?
Jan 24, 2018, 3:43 am
#2914
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Aberdeenshire
Programs: BAEC Silver
Posts: 153
Thank you Waterhorse.
I was thinking of Aberdeen as it's my home airport.
I was thinking of Aberdeen as it's my home airport.
Jan 24, 2018, 4:05 am
#2915
FlyerTalk Evangelist, Ambassador, British Airways Executive Club
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Somewhere between 0 and 13,000 metres high
Programs: AF/KL Life Plat, BA GGL+GfL, ALL Plat, Hilton Diam, Marriott Gold, blablablah, etc
Posts: 30,546
Im not staff but amply discussed elsewhere: booked load normallly finalised in last 24hrs though could be corrected especially ex London.
Jan 24, 2018, 4:22 am
#2916
Join Date: Jul 2011
Programs: BAEC Gold, LH M&M Member
Posts: 2,705
i think we’re mixing up the issues here;
- Does the hotel/service provider allow points to be awarded on that particular booking? That is entirely dependent on them, “yes, we can give you this great rate but you won’t collect points”.
- Does the person paying for your travel allow you to collect points on the trips they are paying for? That is dependent on your contract with them, some employers (often this affects civil service travel) will not allow it so that their staff cannot be seen to be influenced by such ‘gifts’.
Jan 24, 2018, 5:02 am
#2917
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Aberdeenshire
Programs: BAEC Silver
Posts: 153
i think we’re mixing up the issues here;
- Does the hotel/service provider allow points to be awarded on that particular booking? That is entirely dependent on them, “yes, we can give you this great rate but you won’t collect points”.
- Does the person paying for your travel allow you to collect points on the trips they are paying for? That is dependent on your contract with them, some employers (often this affects civil service travel) will not allow it so that their staff cannot be seen to be influenced by such ‘gifts’.
Yes in both cases
We can add flying and hotel program numbers to our company travel profile.
We request our travel and our company travel agent makes the bookings for flights and hotels and they add our associated program numbers to the booking.
All flights and hotels are prepaid and all airmiles and hotel points are added to our personal accounts.
Jan 24, 2018, 9:50 am
#2918
Ambassador, British Airways Executive Club
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: UK
Posts: 10,159
Thanks for that, appreciated. I'm assuming some of it is down to costs as well given there are much more CC than FC on longer flights.
LA is a a place where the attitude of the hotels themselves is more important than cost, although cost does come into it. Essentially in LA the hotels we have used in the past decided they could make more money by renting out to conference and convention guests rather than airlines. Given that there are now a lot more CC than FC it is always easier to find places for the smaller group, finding a hotel that will sell 23 x 2 rooms day, with a no hot bedding clause, for the A380, often dictates which hotels will tender for the business. In LA none of the hotels we used to use a few years ago, where crew all stayed together were interested, as I said they could sell the rooms for more money than BA would pay. For FC, the pay agreements make it more viable to pay a little more to the hotel rather than pay more to the FC in increased duty pay and credit for the trip. It is not so much that FC need better hotels or have differing requirements more the physical number of rooms he hotels were prepared to offer.
Jan 24, 2018, 9:53 pm
#2919
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 5,797
Yes in both cases
We can add flying and hotel program numbers to our company travel profile.
We request our travel and our company travel agent makes the bookings for flights and hotels and they add our associated program numbers to the booking.
All flights and hotels are prepaid and all airmiles and hotel points are added to our personal accounts.
We can add flying and hotel program numbers to our company travel profile.
We request our travel and our company travel agent makes the bookings for flights and hotels and they add our associated program numbers to the booking.
All flights and hotels are prepaid and all airmiles and hotel points are added to our personal accounts.
Your company may allow you to collect points but do you have heavily discounted rates or do you just pay standard room rates? And if it is discounted, is it discounted as heavily as an airline booking out 40-50 rooms a night all year round? BA may not allow point collection but the hotels may not be willing to give them either.
Jan 24, 2018, 10:06 pm
#2920
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Aberdeenshire
Programs: BAEC Silver
Posts: 153
What i am saying is many hotels will not give points for discounted rates, they seem far more eager to get out of giving points away than airlines do.
Your company may allow you to collect points but do you have heavily discounted rates or do you just pay standard room rates? And if it is discounted, is it discounted as heavily as an airline booking out 40-50 rooms a night all year round? BA may not allow point collection but the hotels may not be willing to give them either.
Your company may allow you to collect points but do you have heavily discounted rates or do you just pay standard room rates? And if it is discounted, is it discounted as heavily as an airline booking out 40-50 rooms a night all year round? BA may not allow point collection but the hotels may not be willing to give them either.
It has always been cheaper than the flexible rate and once it was less than half the price.
Jan 24, 2018, 10:15 pm
#2921
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: MNL / SFO / NYC
Programs: IHG Spire | Marriott Plat | UA Plat | AA Plat Pro
Posts: 533
So let's say Hotel Chain A has a corporate rate for Fortune 500 Company XYZ. at Hotel Location 123. Even if the corp rate is GBP 100.00 and the regular rate is GBP 300.00. If the contract allows for points to be earned then even if the corp rate is 33% of the regular rate, points will still be earned.
I'm guessing there is some similar agreement on a company-to-company contract basis with airline miles.
Jan 25, 2018, 3:38 am
#2922
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: London, UK
Programs: BA Gold, CX Gold (OW Sapphire), Hilton Gold, SPG Gold, Accor Platinum
Posts: 1,476
For hotels, the ability to earn points in the hotel chain's loyalty program is usually built into a corporate rate RFP (especially for bigger clients that they are trying to maintain with the chain), this is regardless of the difference between the contracted company rate and the publicly available rate for the day.
So let's say Hotel Chain A has a corporate rate for Fortune 500 Company XYZ. at Hotel Location 123. Even if the corp rate is GBP 100.00 and the regular rate is GBP 300.00. If the contract allows for points to be earned then even if the corp rate is 33% of the regular rate, points will still be earned.
I'm guessing there is some similar agreement on a company-to-company contract basis with airline miles.
So let's say Hotel Chain A has a corporate rate for Fortune 500 Company XYZ. at Hotel Location 123. Even if the corp rate is GBP 100.00 and the regular rate is GBP 300.00. If the contract allows for points to be earned then even if the corp rate is 33% of the regular rate, points will still be earned.
I'm guessing there is some similar agreement on a company-to-company contract basis with airline miles.
Jan 29, 2018, 9:08 am
#2923
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: SJC
Programs: BAEC Bronze, AS MVP Gold 75K, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 488
I see that the A320s (and I guess the 319 and 321) are now having maintenance undertaking in Madrid. When an aircraft positions out for maintenance does a member of cabin crew have to fly out with pilots for safety reasons. I presume they do. If so how many cabin crew are required for an empty 320 family ferry flight? Also how many cabin crew are needed on the 380 when it goes to MNL fair maintenance?
Jan 29, 2018, 9:20 am
#2924
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2002
Programs: Mucci des Hommes Magiques et Magnifiques
Posts: 19,107
No cabin crew have to be on ferry flights the pilots can look after themselves.
Jan 29, 2018, 9:20 am
#2925
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 2,065
I see that the A320s (and I guess the 319 and 321) are now having maintenance undertaking in Madrid. When an aircraft positions out for maintenance does a member of cabin crew have to fly out with pilots for safety reasons. I presume they do. If so how many cabin crew are required for an empty 320 family ferry flight? Also how many cabin crew are needed on the 380 when it goes to MNL fair maintenance?