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Jul 17, 2013, 11:32 am
#121
Join Date: May 2011
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 794
It is not against the Data Protection Law to see your CIV.
What is against the Data Protection Law is for the list of passengers on the flight to be given to you to have a look at.
I think the mods should close this thread because other than people enjoying insulting each other, it is getting nowhere fast.
What is against the Data Protection Law is for the list of passengers on the flight to be given to you to have a look at.
I think the mods should close this thread because other than people enjoying insulting each other, it is getting nowhere fast.
Especially as (mentioned earlier by someone) the exact ( well much the same anyway, kind of ) topic was covered a couple of weeks ago and SF came to the fore then.
Nothing wrong with him expressing his opinion, and nothing wrong with others taking a different view. Proabaly best to try to keep it civil though
Jul 17, 2013, 11:35 am
#122
Join Date: May 2011
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 794
I'd say that dude ain't that high profile if he's flying on the same metal as me. We are talking about commercially available seats, not private jets.
Besides, if there was some high profile dude onboard, I'd expect s/he's publicly identifiable by merely gazing at his face/stance/gait/etc... Such an individual has decidedly become "public" and has given up some privacy as a result. (the right/wrong of which is not within the scope of an airline/pax to decide)
Privacy is a myth of insecurity, especially when frolicking among the public. (ie, on a plane with others, in a public library, walking on the public streets, etc.) Society is grand ain't it?
Besides, if there was some high profile dude onboard, I'd expect s/he's publicly identifiable by merely gazing at his face/stance/gait/etc... Such an individual has decidedly become "public" and has given up some privacy as a result. (the right/wrong of which is not within the scope of an airline/pax to decide)
Privacy is a myth of insecurity, especially when frolicking among the public. (ie, on a plane with others, in a public library, walking on the public streets, etc.) Society is grand ain't it?
Jul 17, 2013, 11:35 am
#123
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: YVR
Programs: Ice Cream Club, AC SE MM, Bonvoy Life Plat
Posts: 2,803
Alright then ... if you consider it a non-issue, how about you post your real name and your BAEC membership number right here together with a list of PNRs for all your future flight bookings so the whole world of people you don't know, have never met and don't necessarily trust can go see what seat you're sitting in, your meal preference etc. ?
Oh, what's that, you don't want to do that ? There's a surprise !
Oh, what's that, you don't want to do that ? There's a surprise !
How about this: I generally try not to be a dick and hence do not sense any insecurity about others harassing me because of my identity. I agree that not everyone falls into this category, but privacy is a myth... perhaps even a dead religion...
Jul 17, 2013, 11:37 am
#125
Moderator: British Airways Executive Club, Iberia Airlines, Airport Lounges and Environmentally Friendly Travel
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: London, UK
Posts: 22,213
There is no valid reason to close this thread. However, common courtesy dictates that those who have already expressed their individual PoV leave room for others to express their own.
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Jul 17, 2013, 11:38 am
#127
Join Date: Mar 2011
Programs: MUCCI
Posts: 833
DrunkCargo,
This thread has run its full extent. You're late to the game, I don't think anyone's particularly interested in seeing this thread go round and round in circles, and I'm not going to reply to any of your posts (or any other future posts from anyone else from this point on) so you might as well stop digging up and commenting on all of my individual posts.
Over and out.
This thread has run its full extent. You're late to the game, I don't think anyone's particularly interested in seeing this thread go round and round in circles, and I'm not going to reply to any of your posts (or any other future posts from anyone else from this point on) so you might as well stop digging up and commenting on all of my individual posts.
Over and out.
Jul 17, 2013, 11:41 am
#129
Join Date: Jul 2011
Programs: Mucci de la Cuisine Aérienne du Réseau Courte Durée de British Airways
Posts: 4,704
You all may or may not know this but a lot of celebrities and people who wish to keep their personal life private have their flights booked under a special name.
This is so that any less scrupulous airline and travel agency staff cannot tip off the media. ( this has got nothing to do with the Data Protection law but I thought you might be interested that this often happens and the name on the PIL can often be different to the name of the celebrity).
Of course once on the aircraft people will recognise them.
The point of the Data Protection Law is to allow the person themselves to decide if they want people to know any of their details and companies are required only to use their names and details for the purpose the passenger intended, not to share this information with anyone else.
This is so that any less scrupulous airline and travel agency staff cannot tip off the media. ( this has got nothing to do with the Data Protection law but I thought you might be interested that this often happens and the name on the PIL can often be different to the name of the celebrity).
Of course once on the aircraft people will recognise them.
The point of the Data Protection Law is to allow the person themselves to decide if they want people to know any of their details and companies are required only to use their names and details for the purpose the passenger intended, not to share this information with anyone else.
Jul 17, 2013, 11:54 am
#130
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Left
Programs: FT
Posts: 7,285
You all may or may not know this but a lot of celebrities and people who wish to keep their personal life private have their flights booked under a special name.
This is so that any less scrupulous airline and travel agency staff cannot tip off the media. ( this has got nothing to do with the Data Protection law but I thought you might be interested that this often happens and the name on the PIL can often be different to the name of the celebrity).
Of course once on the aircraft people will recognise them.
The point of the Data Protection Law is to allow the person themselves to decide if they want people to know any of their details and companies are required only to use their names and details for the purpose the passenger intended, not to share this information with anyone else.
This is so that any less scrupulous airline and travel agency staff cannot tip off the media. ( this has got nothing to do with the Data Protection law but I thought you might be interested that this often happens and the name on the PIL can often be different to the name of the celebrity).
Of course once on the aircraft people will recognise them.
The point of the Data Protection Law is to allow the person themselves to decide if they want people to know any of their details and companies are required only to use their names and details for the purpose the passenger intended, not to share this information with anyone else.
and yet they allow a manifest to be viewed is causing the world to fall apart?
Jul 17, 2013, 11:55 am
#132
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Left
Programs: FT
Posts: 7,285
DrunkCargo,
This thread has run its full extent. You're late to the game, I don't think anyone's particularly interested in seeing this thread go round and round in circles, and I'm not going to reply to any of your posts (or any other future posts from anyone else from this point on) so you might as well stop digging up and commenting on all of my individual posts.
Over and out.
This thread has run its full extent. You're late to the game, I don't think anyone's particularly interested in seeing this thread go round and round in circles, and I'm not going to reply to any of your posts (or any other future posts from anyone else from this point on) so you might as well stop digging up and commenting on all of my individual posts.
Over and out.
Jul 17, 2013, 12:01 pm
#133
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Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: JER
Programs: BA Gold/OWE, several MUCCI, and assorted Pensions!
Posts: 32,146
Inspired by this Thread, I Googled the "real me".
Fascinating. Out of date, inaccurate and irrelevant. I am still completely unconcerned about the size of my CIV.
Fascinating. Out of date, inaccurate and irrelevant. I am still completely unconcerned about the size of my CIV.
Jul 17, 2013, 12:02 pm
#134
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: YVR
Programs: Ice Cream Club, AC SE MM, Bonvoy Life Plat
Posts: 2,803
DrunkCargo,
This thread has run its full extent. You're late to the game, I don't think anyone's particularly interested in seeing this thread go round and round in circles, and I'm not going to reply to any of your posts (or any other future posts from anyone else from this point on) so you might as well stop digging up and commenting on all of my individual posts.
Over and out.
This thread has run its full extent. You're late to the game, I don't think anyone's particularly interested in seeing this thread go round and round in circles, and I'm not going to reply to any of your posts (or any other future posts from anyone else from this point on) so you might as well stop digging up and commenting on all of my individual posts.
Over and out.
I grew up noticing all kinds of details which I wish I didn't. As a result, I see breaches of all kinds of laws frequently when I'm in public. Things like food safety, traffic safety (I don't drive btw)... and the thing is, it did bother me greatly in the past because if one breach is allowed, it seems equal to recanting the original rule, or at least accepting there are exceptions which can be judged by the individual actor in question. It has led to a lucrative career in various forms of "enforcement" and executive capacity.
But, I also noticed that when pointing out these concerns, that the peaceful discourse of society seemed to be broken. Whether right or wrong, it seems humans have these flaws. And sometimes it's nice to look in the mirror and realize, peace seems to make things flow a little easier than being right.
...and my love for scotch and retired mindset was born...
This doesn't address the possibility of automating humans out of the picture, but in the case of FAs, OZ214, etc... this seems unlikely in the near future. We'll have to keep putting up with these losers who never get it right, the same ones who let pax carry bags on incident evac...
If this forum didn't exist, I would be talking the ear off all my seatmates... FT rocks!
Jul 17, 2013, 12:16 pm
#135
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: MAN/BHX
Programs: ABBA
Posts: 6,027
Then on the flight there was an announcement to ask if "Alison xxxx" was on board
Then at MAN there were announcements for "Alison xxxx" and "Someone Else" to contact baggage claim
You've also got the situation as above where people are greeted by name, both at the door and in seat. Sometimes the crew gets the wrong seat too, so Joe Blogs is approached and told "Hello Mr Smith"
Finally all the bags on the carousel have your surname on the bag-tag
The "leaking" of individual names is quite common, but then there's a valid reason for it. I don't see a reason for displaying the PIL on the other hand.