HIDDY

Oi....I'm not common you know.

What's a TIWIET anyway?

LeisureFirst

I have taken champagne (VC) out of the JFK Flounge before. With the the approval of the dragons. It was a glass at a time, admittedly, and it was to take to the dining area in the J lounge. Maybe the woman concerned had a family having dinner in the CW dining area who were legitimately entitled to F champers.

Assuming it was only going as far as the J lounge, this woman could have done it without any smuggling. She could have guested in one of her friends, they would have been allowed to carry out two large glasses between them, and they would have been allowed to do it more than once, although perhaps not in rapid succession.

Don't be so quick to assume the worst.

clubman

I would never do this myself, but I'm intrigued as to why people here feel sticking a bottle of Champage into your bag is any different to doing so with a pack of crisps, which I'm sure plenty of people here have done or do on a regular bases.

I mean, stealing is stealing at the end of the day.

HilFly

I don't understand TIWIET.

rathin100

+1

sunrisegirl

I agree with that principle, though a bottle of champagne is a lot more costly than a bag of Kettle Chips!

That said I think this is a very poor show indeed. What would happen if everybody did it?

And you're all assuming the champagne was taken to the J lounge, but why would they do that when you can get champagne in there anyway?

I think it's far more likely to have been taken to people in the main departure lounge.

I could say more, but would probably be jumped on by some people so won't bother.

Baconroll

If she was taking the bubbles to the Club Lounge legitimally, why the need to hide it in her bag? With glasses? Surely there are champagne glasses in that lounge too?

I think it's awful someone stealing Champagne. Yes, it is stealing, no two ways about it. I would've thought that if one can afford to fly F, one doesn't need to steal Champagne but can afford to buy it in an appropriate shop. I'm sure I've seen comments on this forum before about having to ask for bubbly in the lounges. I guess we now know why.

Baconroll

Oh, and it goes to show that money can't buy class.

(Sorry, can't edit post on this silly gadget)

Yahillwe

At the JFK ccr, there was a bowl of baby apples, delicious. Ate a few of them and would have liked to take some for the plane. Am sure they wouldn't have minded. Ended up not taking any.... Regretfully. They top any apples in Paris.

Sixth Freedom

I think that there are cases when the champagne could be legitimately be taken out of the lounge. For instance if you wanted to watch the planes from the terminal window and could not do this from the lounge with another F passenger it would not be theft to take the fizz out of the lounge. It would even be OK to hide it in this case because you would know that the dragon would probably not be keen on you taking it out.



Aha, the what if everybody did it argument. A nice old chestnut!

My normal consideration is that this argument is spurious because the person doing the taking knows full well, as does everyone else, that hardly anyone does it.



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LTN Phobia

"Hiding" would indicate that she was not legitimately taking it. That is rather wrong. Ideally, one's conscience should stop people from doing things they feel they need to hide, although of course that is not always the case.

If I want to take something from the lounge, I'd outright ask and expect to be told "no" - and if told no, of course I would completely and gracefully accept that. Having said that, I won't ask to take anything substantial in the first place because I do not want to make the lounge staff feel uncomfortable by their needing to say "no". If I feel the need to hide something to take it, that means my conscience wouldn't let me take it anyway.

I'd be quite happy to ask them if it is OK for me to take something small like a packet of crisps, a couple of apples etc because it's likely they will say it's OK, although I would still be prepared for them to say "no" and be quite happy with that (and consequently feel bad about having put them in a situation to have to say "no" - I easily feel guilty!). Then I can take it with clear conscience I just wouldn't take anything without asking first though.

P.S. I would one day like to ask to take the pair of horse lamps to keep me company on the flight (as a prank to see how they react ), however!

PUCCI GALORE

God I must be getting as old as Whistler's Mother but I am seriously unamused. I think that was disgraceful and - frankly I would have told the Lounge Lady. To me that is theft pure and simple and it would have served her right if the Police had been called. Why, I wonder did the OP not see fit to denounce her in front of the lounge and let her brazen it out?

If you think that I would not have dared then you do not know me.

Embuexpat

Exactly the same happened to me yesterday, except it wasn't squashed as I'd stashed it in a tin with a packet of the stem ginger cookies.

CosmosHuman

I have to admit I took a little container of jam once.

PUCCI GALORE

Never mind Dear, confession is good for the soul. Unlike some people who have things drop into their Charity Shop bag whilst they turn the First Class Lounge into a Soup Kitchen!