Aug 16, 2013, 8:51 am
Last edit by: FinalBoarding
An “official POUG” is defined (for the purposes of this wiki) as the rate that appears in red on the MMB/BA app. It is NOT the rate offered at the airport (please see http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...ng-thread.html), or the rate offered when you click on the “Upgrade my class of travel with money” link from within MMB, or the “Upgrade to the next available cabin” blue/grey banner in the app.
Please add to this list as required, and include the month/year when the POUG is offered to you.
LON to Europe from ET to CE (typically £59-£69 for Band 1, £69-£79 for Band 2, £79-£89 for Band 3 and £89-£99 for Band 4):
LON to North America (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
LON to South America (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
LON to Asia (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
LON to Australia and Oceania (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
LON to Africa & Middle East (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
Non-LON routes (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- All POUGs earn full TPs and Avios for the upgraded cabin, subject to the original booking being paid for with cash.
- POUGs *ARE* offered on Hand-Baggage Only fares, if available
- POUGs only become available after 48 hours of making your booking, until any time up to, and including OLCI. After being checked in you will not be offered a POUG.
- POUGs do not seem to become available for travel agent bookings, until 2-3 days before departure (YMMV)
- POUGs cannot be requested from Service Centres, except that occasionally BA.com will not proceed with a POUG online and display a message inviting you to call the Service Centre to complete the transaction.
- After a POUG has been purchased, the ticket become non changeable and non refundable, apart from government taxes.
Please add to this list as required, and include the month/year when the POUG is offered to you.
LON to Europe from ET to CE (typically £59-£69 for Band 1, £69-£79 for Band 2, £79-£89 for Band 3 and £89-£99 for Band 4):
- ACE - £105
- AGP – £79 (£99/€119 Dec 2014)
- AMS - £69 / £56 (£99 from HBO in Nov 2014)
- ATH - £99 (£109 from HBO in Oct 2014)
- ARN – £72
- BCN – £79 (£89 for Silver/Bronze and £114 for HBO Blue Dec 2014 - same fight, two bookings) // Blue Feb 2015 - LGW - BCN - £89 / BCN to LHR £115)
- BGO – £64 (£79 for HBO in SEP2014)
- BRI - £119 / €144 (Dec 2014)
- BRU - £69
- BSL - CHF 85 for BSL-LHR (£55 at then exchange rate) (CHF120 in Dec 2014)
- BUD - £79 (£89 and £105 Dec 2014)
- CDG - £69 (£75 Dec 2014; CDG-LHR €115 Dec 2014)
- CMF - £69 (Dec 2014)
- CPH - £79 (£129 from HBO Nov 2014)
- CTA - £119/€144 (both Dec 2014)
- DBV – £79
- DUB – £69/£56 (£99 from HBO Nov 2014, £80 Dec 2014)
- DUS – £69
- FCO - £170 (Dec 14)
- FRA – £69
- GIB - £72 (£140 Dec 14)
- GOT – £79
- GVA - £79/£89
- HAJ – £69
- HAM – £69
- HEL – £89
- INN – £89 out / €109 back (Dec 14)
- IST – £89
- JER – £69
- KBP - £80 / USD 129 (BA is not currently accepting Ukrainian currency)
- LCA – £89 (£190 Dec 2014 from LCA; separately £134 to LCA Dec 2014)
- LIN – £79
- LIS – £79 (£119 offered Nov 14, £99 and £145 Dec 14)
- LUX - £69
- MAD - £79
- MAH - £69
- MUC - £79
- MXP - £119 (€89 MXP - LHR)
- NCE - £140 (each way, 21/DEC/14)
- ORY - £69
- OSL - £79 (£64/640 NOK reported)
- OTP - £79/€89
- PMI - £69 (Dec 2014)
- PRG – £79
- PSA - £79
- SZG - £114 (Nov 2015)
- SOF - £89
- STR – £69
- TIA – £89 (£99 offered Dec 14 for TIA-LGW) (€119 TIA-LGW Dec 2014)
- TRN – £79
- TXL – £69
- VCE – £79
- VIE – £79 [£129 as of Nov14! GBP99 LHR-VIE + GBP99 VIE-LHR Nov14]
- VRN- €139 (~£110) Nov 2014 - £89 / €109 Dec 2014
- WAW – £69 (£110 Dec 14)
- ZAG – £79
- ZRH – £79 (£87 (CHF135) for ZRH-LHR): LCY-ZRH + v.v. £69 (offered 11/14)
LON to North America (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- ATL - WTP £189
- BOS – WTP £189 (mid-2014) £219 (December 2014)
- IAD - WTP £157
- JFK/EWR – WTP £189 (can be as low as £133) / CW £443 / F £527 (F £599 02/08)
- LAS - WTP £180
- LAX – WTP £229 / CW £599 (CW £548 Jan 2015)
- MCO– WTP £180
- MEX – F £447/£525 / £229 WT-WTP (November 28 2015)/ 4640 MXN WT-WTP (December 14 2015)
- MIA – WTP £209 / CW £525
- ORD – WTP £171 / CW £525 / F £499
- PHL – WTP £189
- SAN – CW £599
- SEA – WTP £199
- SFO – WTP £170
- YYZ – WTP £171 (return leg) / CW £425 / F £499
- YYC - WTP £134
- YVR – WTP £175 / CW £350
LON to South America (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- EZE – WTP £199
- GRU – WTP £209 / F £499 / WT to CW £699
- GIG - WT to CW £699
LON to Asia (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- BKK - WTP £126-£140 / CW £549 / F £
- BOM - WTP £ / CW £450 / F £
- DEL - F £499, subsequently reduced to £400
- HKG – WTP £199 (offered £172 for a Nov 2014 flight) / CW £599 / F £599
- NRT - WTP £199 / CW £ / F £525
- ICN - CW £499
- SIN - WTP SGD$320
LON to Australia and Oceania (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- SYD – WTP £170 / CW £399
LON to Africa & Middle East (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- AUH – F £499
- CAI - WTP £121
- DXB – WTP £179 / F £499
- EBB - WTP £142
- JNB - WTP £209
- NBO - WTP £189
Non-LON routes (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- SYD-SIN – F £465
- AMS-LGW - CE €79
- BCN-LHR - CE £64
- BRU-LHR - CE £105 (12.2014)
- CDG-LHR - CE €79
- DUB-LHR - CE €109 (£85.70-ish) from HBO booked 05.12.14, offered 08.12.14
- BOM-LHR - F cINR40,000 (c£395)
- JNB-LHR WTP - £189
- TLV-LHR - F $600 (c£370)
Pro-active Upgrade cost tracking and questions thread
Mar 12, 2014, 3:40 pm
#2851
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Ipswich
Posts: 7,543
I think this thread (although not the sticky post) includes AUP fares, and some straight fare differences as well as POUGs.
Mar 12, 2014, 4:15 pm
#2852
Join Date: Aug 2013
Programs: BA Silver, Velocity Gold
Posts: 329
LHR - IAD CW for £525. Declined as I took the UUA 
Mar 12, 2014, 4:31 pm
#2853
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: usually LON
Programs: BA Gold (OWE), Tesco Blue, TK Elite (*G), Oyster Diamond Jubilee edition
Posts: 1,546
Mar 14, 2014, 4:17 am
#2854
Join Date: Apr 2005
Programs: klm pe
Posts: 356
lhr lax
i bought an upgrade at the airport for 599 from cw to f
are these ever offered from lax to lhr as well or is that a london thing?
are these ever offered from lax to lhr as well or is that a london thing?
Mar 14, 2014, 8:49 am
#2855
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 4
I was offered YYZ - LHR. WT+ to CW for £350.
Mar 14, 2014, 8:54 am
#2856
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Brighton and Hove, UK
Programs: LH FTL, BA Silver, Thameslink Delay Repay
Posts: 1,248
Another data point for POUG availability being worse than last year - for the first time ever booked a LHR-ZRH today where I wasn't offered POUG immediately after booking despite I9.
Not fussed as I have enough TPs for this membership year and so probably wouldn't have taken it anyway on such a short sector. Still, it seems the game is changing...
Not fussed as I have enough TPs for this membership year and so probably wouldn't have taken it anyway on such a short sector. Still, it seems the game is changing...
Mar 15, 2014, 9:17 am
#2857
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: London
Programs: BAEC
Posts: 2,644
This week I was offered LHR-JNB Y to Y+ for £209, or direct Y to J for £749
I declined, and enjoyed a 20% load in the back of the Beast. 3 seats for dining, 4 seats for sleeping
I declined, and enjoyed a 20% load in the back of the Beast. 3 seats for dining, 4 seats for sleeping
Mar 15, 2014, 8:21 pm
#2858
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: PHX & AGP
Programs: AA Lifetime PLT, Bonvoy Lifetime Titanium, Hilton Gold
Posts: 11,463
Mar 15, 2014, 8:37 pm
#2859
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 1,727
the usual price different for WT to WT+ is 220pounds for SIN-LHR, how is the POUG offer determined?
Mar 15, 2014, 8:39 pm
#2860
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 1,727
where does the option to upgrade appear?
Mar 16, 2014, 3:27 am
#2861
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: London
Programs: BAEC
Posts: 2,644
Y+ had one empty seat, so a full cabin. I thought a nearly empty Y- was a much better proposition. Just a shame the arm rests don't go all the way up on the A380/B77W. You can still make a flat bed though!
Mar 16, 2014, 3:53 am
#2862
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Location: London, UK
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Mar 16, 2014, 10:51 am
#2863
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Dorset, UK
Programs: BA GGL
Posts: 635
Had an interesting one yesterday on a flight from Europe - €79 for an Amsterdam-Gatwick (morning departure). Expertflyer was showing IC RC D9 C9 J9 - and here was me thinking that POUGs were reliant on I bucket inventory
Anyway, went for it and found it upgraded into U bucket with fare basis UPOUG... first time I'd seen that!
Anyway, went for it and found it upgraded into U bucket with fare basis UPOUG... first time I'd seen that!
Mar 18, 2014, 1:31 am
#2864
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Cambridge, UK
Programs: BAEC Gold, Virgin Flying Club Gold, DanAir Lifetime Gold, Coffee House Bedford Platinum Plus, Green
Posts: 168
AUP to ALC
Got what I consider to be a great deal to ALC in May from LGW, £220 for 4 nights including 4* hotel full board - but my ET ticket is booked into
S out and O back - no sign of any POUG offers in MMB due to the ticket, but does anyone have any idea of AUP prospects to ALC? And is there a desk for airport upgrades (not familiar with LGW)
S out and O back - no sign of any POUG offers in MMB due to the ticket, but does anyone have any idea of AUP prospects to ALC? And is there a desk for airport upgrades (not familiar with LGW)
Mar 18, 2014, 3:30 am
#2865
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Join Date: Jun 2012
Programs: BA Gold, QF WP
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Got what I consider to be a great deal to ALC in May from LGW, £220 for 4 nights including 4* hotel full board - but my ET ticket is booked into
S out and O back - no sign of any POUG offers in MMB due to the ticket, but does anyone have any idea of AUP prospects to ALC? And is there a desk for airport upgrades (not familiar with LGW)
S out and O back - no sign of any POUG offers in MMB due to the ticket, but does anyone have any idea of AUP prospects to ALC? And is there a desk for airport upgrades (not familiar with LGW)
You can ask for an AUP at checkin or at the service desk near the F checkin at LGW. The chance really depends on the booked load, if you're flying on a busy flight (start of weekend, long weekend or school holidays) I would think your chances are much lower.