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Old May 26, 2014, 8:47 am
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Every forum on Flyertalk has a personality. A forum gains a personality through user input over time, and Lifemiles is a very definitive example of how users have developed a unique community.

While Flyertalk boards actively encourage sharing of info, the Lifemiles community has developed and thrived via obscuring of certain data elements. It may not be easy for new participants to break through the codes and gain knowledge of the program's quirks, but the overall board community has adopted this unique approach. And frankly, that is not going to change overnight.

If a FT member wants to participate on this board, then they will need to respect other users. Hence, posts that run counter to this community's standards, will be removed.
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C1 North America
C1.5 Caribbean, Bermuda
C2 Europe
C2.5 Middle East
C3 Asia
C4 South America
C5 Africa
C6 Oceania

2X, 3X: in the context of this LifeMiles thread, 2X and 3X refer to any 2nd and 3rd legs of a one-way award ticket.

LifeMiles' Star Alliance Award Chart

LifeMiles' old Star Alliance Award Chart (before Oct 15 2014) // Table of changes

Cash & Miles redemptions: the price per mile purchased during award booking varies significantly depending on how many miles are purchased. The "sweet spots" are between 38% and 58% of the total mileage required, where miles are purchased for 1.5 cents. See here for some examples.

Beware of Cabotage: LifeMiles has been known to issue tickets that constitute Cabotage, and at least one instance of denied boarding has been reported, stranding the passenger. An easily-seen example is travel on Copa from LAX to SJU (via PTY).

Understand Cabotage: Departing country 1, transiting country 2, returning to country 1 (no stopping) *is* cabotage (example: depart JFK, connect in YYZ to return to ORD, or depart Miami, connect in Bogota, return to San Francisco). On the other hand, departing country 1, going to completely unrelated country 2, and ending up in country 3, is not cabotage. So if you fly JFK-JNB-ZRH, for instance, this is completely not cabotage.

Availability: Seeing availability for *A award seats elsewhere is no guarantee they are accessible on Lifemiles. For instance award space shown on ANA often is not accessible on Lifemiles. Similarly, finding award space on single legs doesn't mean you'll get award space on the combined itinerary. And no, there is no way to overcome that.

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Send email to [email protected] with attached screenshots on Lifemiles website of each individual leg showing availability. Also, screenshot showing no availability as one booking. Include passenger names, gender and DOB and copy of passenger passport. They will either call you for payment or email the itinerary and give you 3 days to call up and make payment by CC.

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Old Jul 30, 2016, 2:17 am
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Originally Posted by Tokyoite
seems the issue pops up when you select an airline carrier and look for F class with connections.
Issue is there even without selecting specific airline.
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Old Aug 12, 2016, 6:33 pm
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Hey guys,

Planning a trip to Tokyo (from Lima) for thanksgiving week (Nov18-25) and will be pampering myself with F both ways. I have already defined the way to get there, but am open for suggestions on how to return. I am looking to being as much time possible in the sky, and was really hoping for an Air India return via SFO, but it was just a dream. Could any of you please PM me with any suggestions to achieve my goal

Best,

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Old Aug 12, 2016, 6:36 pm
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Originally Posted by alonsoalegre
Hey guys,

Planning a trip to Tokyo (from Lima) for thanksgiving week (Nov18-25) and will be pampering myself with F both ways. I have already defined the way to get there, but am open for suggestions on how to return. I am looking to being as much time possible in the sky, and was really hoping for an Air India return via SFO, but it was just a dream. Could any of you please PM me with any suggestions to achieve my goal

Best,

Alonso
I never thought I'd live to see "Air India" and "dream" in one sentence
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Old Aug 12, 2016, 6:40 pm
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Originally Posted by Pseudo Nim
I never thought I'd live to see "Air India" and "dream" in one sentence
lol, I was inspired by a LHR-SFO review done last year. I know SQ is off limits and will be flying NH there. I would wait for LH but I want to secure this ASAP.
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Old Aug 12, 2016, 6:44 pm
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Originally Posted by alonsoalegre
lol, I was inspired by a LHR-SFO review done last year. I know SQ is off limits and will be flying NH there. I would wait for LH but I want to secure this ASAP.
If NH is available just take that. Seriously, the only thing great about AI is their advertising campaign in which the Indian guy looks completely incredulous that the American loves AI
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Old Aug 12, 2016, 6:50 pm
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LIM-IAH-NRT. Shortest flight possible on United that connects one stop to NH from LIM .
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Old Aug 15, 2016, 8:32 am
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Originally Posted by andreiz
Trying to book an LH/UA F flight that's showing as available on united.com (LHF-ORD-SFO), but LM website is showing it as Business while asking for 87K miles. Is this a bug? Any way around it?
Originally Posted by WolfvanWeen
call them. Flight class display is extraordinarily unreliable as of recently
Anyone booked any of these with the lumpy class? My impression is that the class is correct but the price is wrong. I am seeing TK BOG IST BHX showing in both C and F searches but it must be the same class for different prices no?

Another question. LH F, is it turned on or off at the moment? I am going to need a last minute flight back to the UK any day soon and would be cool to bag LH F for this unplanned trip
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Old Aug 16, 2016, 1:40 am
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Originally Posted by JohnnyColombia
..I am seeing TK BOG IST BHX showing in both C and F searches but it must be the same class for different prices no?
It's just possible this could an LF anomaly

I think Turkish ended its flirtation with first-class. Certainly its front of house seats on the A332 are old-school business-class. Comfortable enough if you don't expect to lie flat.

On the narrow body connection to BHX from IST, you might (or you might not) get dedicated business-class seating - but the alternative is fine with increased pitch and an empty middle seat. In fact it's likely you'll get the front cabin all to yourself....
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Old Aug 16, 2016, 2:34 am
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bug fixed

The bug in which you see C only or C/Y in F search seems to have been fixed after a "scheduled" maintenance.
GJ, even though I am not yet finding any vacancy in my desired route.
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Old Aug 16, 2016, 5:25 am
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Originally Posted by tomsdiner1
The bug in which you see C only or C/Y in F search seems to have been fixed after a "scheduled" maintenance.
GJ, even though I am not yet finding any vacancy in my desired route.
No it hasn't

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Old Aug 16, 2016, 5:48 am
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Originally Posted by scibuff
No it hasn't
Oops, only in a specific region...
(Yesterday I saw 30,000 in "F" and got C only.)
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Old Aug 16, 2016, 7:57 am
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the maintenance seems to have;
1. Brought back TG connections N/Asia-AUS
2. Still left the F/C bug, but with some interesting easter eggs where selective F/C multi-class itineraries price as C (LH F included!)

keep digging!
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Old Aug 16, 2016, 12:02 pm
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Originally Posted by IAN-UK
It's just possible this could an LF anomaly

I think Turkish ended its flirtation with first-class. Certainly its front of house seats on the A332 are old-school business-class. Comfortable enough if you don't expect to lie flat.

On the narrow body connection to BHX from IST, you might (or you might not) get dedicated business-class seating - but the alternative is fine with increased pitch and an empty middle seat. In fact it's likely you'll get the front cabin all to yourself....
The issues with C being duplicated into F for more LMs seems to be fixed. Credit to TK, they seem to be the only airline flying across the Atlantic with C availability with minimal notice. Sucks that if I look at LHR then I am forced into AV C and get asked 122000 LMs for it. It's entirely possible that CA would have that in their business pods or UA with their excessively cushioned BusinessFirst.

Other start points such as MEX, PTY, SJO, LAX, SFO, DFW and WAS to LHR all backhaul you through BOG. Who on earth flies such a route willingly?
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Old Aug 16, 2016, 3:51 pm
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Originally Posted by Tokyoite
the maintenance seems to have;
1. Brought back TG connections N/Asia-AUS
Unfortunately it doesn't look like it has fixed the bug in reverse - AU-N/Asia still coming back with nil results. Sectors via BKK are individually available. I tried Hong Kong and Shanghai.
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Old Aug 17, 2016, 2:16 am
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Originally Posted by Tokyoite
the maintenance seems to have;
1. Brought back TG connections N/Asia-AUS
2. Still left the F/C bug, but with some interesting easter eggs where selective F/C multi-class itineraries price as C (LH F included!)

keep digging!

Not sure which maintenance you mean ... both 1) and 2) have been available for weeks
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