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Old May 26, 2014, 8:47 am
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Every forum on Flyertalk has a personality. A forum gains a personality through user input over time, and Lifemiles is a very definitive example of how users have developed a unique community.

While Flyertalk boards actively encourage sharing of info, the Lifemiles community has developed and thrived via obscuring of certain data elements. It may not be easy for new participants to break through the codes and gain knowledge of the program's quirks, but the overall board community has adopted this unique approach. And frankly, that is not going to change overnight.

If a FT member wants to participate on this board, then they will need to respect other users. Hence, posts that run counter to this community's standards, will be removed.
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C1 North America
C1.5 Caribbean, Bermuda
C2 Europe
C2.5 Middle East
C3 Asia
C4 South America
C5 Africa
C6 Oceania

2X, 3X: in the context of this LifeMiles thread, 2X and 3X refer to any 2nd and 3rd legs of a one-way award ticket.

LifeMiles' Star Alliance Award Chart

LifeMiles' old Star Alliance Award Chart (before Oct 15 2014) // Table of changes

Cash & Miles redemptions: the price per mile purchased during award booking varies significantly depending on how many miles are purchased. The "sweet spots" are between 38% and 58% of the total mileage required, where miles are purchased for 1.5 cents. See here for some examples.

Beware of Cabotage: LifeMiles has been known to issue tickets that constitute Cabotage, and at least one instance of denied boarding has been reported, stranding the passenger. An easily-seen example is travel on Copa from LAX to SJU (via PTY).

Understand Cabotage: Departing country 1, transiting country 2, returning to country 1 (no stopping) *is* cabotage (example: depart JFK, connect in YYZ to return to ORD, or depart Miami, connect in Bogota, return to San Francisco). On the other hand, departing country 1, going to completely unrelated country 2, and ending up in country 3, is not cabotage. So if you fly JFK-JNB-ZRH, for instance, this is completely not cabotage.

Availability: Seeing availability for *A award seats elsewhere is no guarantee they are accessible on Lifemiles. For instance award space shown on ANA often is not accessible on Lifemiles. Similarly, finding award space on single legs doesn't mean you'll get award space on the combined itinerary. And no, there is no way to overcome that.

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Send email to [email protected] with attached screenshots on Lifemiles website of each individual leg showing availability. Also, screenshot showing no availability as one booking. Include passenger names, gender and DOB and copy of passenger passport. They will either call you for payment or email the itinerary and give you 3 days to call up and make payment by CC.

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Old May 3, 2016, 5:26 am
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Let's train them: if you really, really want to purchase miles, even without availabilities, please wait until the last couple of days before you buy!
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Old May 3, 2016, 6:49 am
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Originally Posted by WolfvanWeen
Let's train them: if you really, really want to purchase miles, even without availabilities, please wait until the last couple of days before you buy!
Good idea!

I don't think the first promo in 2016 will bring more availability.
Last year only their last promo (Nov/Dez) came along with more availability.
Maybe it was the opening of mixed cabin.... that brougth new availab.....
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Old May 3, 2016, 7:02 am
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No, mixed cabin brought a few nice additions, that's true, but the Grand Boomie reopening definitely came a few weeks later, at the time of the promo.
But of course it could have been a coincidence....
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Old May 3, 2016, 7:21 am
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Not sure if it was posted before, a miscoded C3 S2N switch.
Availability is very scarce - showing only a few single dates with a mixed F/J at price of J. Speedy animal befriending a common bear.

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Old May 3, 2016, 9:12 am
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Originally Posted by hannes08
Good idea!

I don't think the first promo in 2016 will bring more availability.
Last year only their last promo (Nov/Dez) came along with more availability.
Maybe it was the opening of mixed cabin.... that brougth new availab.....
I have an impending long haul purchase. Had awesome available multiple airlines mostly F - and now - poof!!!
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Old May 3, 2016, 10:18 am
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what if i see connections with layover more than 8 hours ? is it possible to book that ?

my desired flight has a 28 hour stopover shown in the lm system
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Old May 3, 2016, 11:24 am
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Originally Posted by cln
what if i see connections with layover more than 8 hours ? is it possible to book that ?

my desired flight has a 28 hour stopover shown in the lm system
go for it!
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Old May 3, 2016, 11:26 am
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Originally Posted by ExSin
... - and now - poof!!!
What do you mean? The last poof was a week or so after the last promotion. Did you see any availability disappear right now?
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Old May 3, 2016, 1:38 pm
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Originally Posted by cln
what if i see connections with layover more than 8 hours ? is it possible to book that ?

my desired flight has a 28 hour stopover shown in the lm system
Now this is new.
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Old May 3, 2016, 5:10 pm
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Originally Posted by WolfvanWeen
What do you mean? The last poof was a week or so after the last promotion. Did you see any availability disappear right now?
Yes. Anna no longer "FliesJet" in one country.
LH F to a couple of still available routes have disappeared. All of this was available in plenty on Friday last week.
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Old May 4, 2016, 3:39 am
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Originally Posted by cln
what if i see connections with layover more than 8 hours ? is it possible to book that ?

my desired flight has a 28 hour stopover shown in the lm system
28hrs??? Are you sure. Never seen that before.
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Old May 4, 2016, 3:39 am
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Originally Posted by WolfvanWeen
availabilities unfortunately not, it seems
Indeed.
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Old May 7, 2016, 4:41 am
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Came across a very interesting routing in Y just now for pennies. Bit of a random route and you might need a satnav to find your origin but it's worth it to see wild cats in the home of fondue...
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Old May 7, 2016, 5:38 pm
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Originally Posted by price123
Came across a very interesting routing in Y just now for pennies. Bit of a random route and you might need a satnav to find your origin but it's worth it to see wild cats in the home of fondue...
Start the search a little further west for a really interesting routing and now with mixed cabins you can get Y/J
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Old Jun 4, 2016, 12:38 am
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Looks like no more F/F or F/C connections with TG via BKK possible ?!

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