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Old May 26, 2014, 8:47 am
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Every forum on Flyertalk has a personality. A forum gains a personality through user input over time, and Lifemiles is a very definitive example of how users have developed a unique community.

While Flyertalk boards actively encourage sharing of info, the Lifemiles community has developed and thrived via obscuring of certain data elements. It may not be easy for new participants to break through the codes and gain knowledge of the program's quirks, but the overall board community has adopted this unique approach. And frankly, that is not going to change overnight.

If a FT member wants to participate on this board, then they will need to respect other users. Hence, posts that run counter to this community's standards, will be removed.
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C1 North America
C1.5 Caribbean, Bermuda
C2 Europe
C2.5 Middle East
C3 Asia
C4 South America
C5 Africa
C6 Oceania

2X, 3X: in the context of this LifeMiles thread, 2X and 3X refer to any 2nd and 3rd legs of a one-way award ticket.

LifeMiles' Star Alliance Award Chart

LifeMiles' old Star Alliance Award Chart (before Oct 15 2014) // Table of changes

Cash & Miles redemptions: the price per mile purchased during award booking varies significantly depending on how many miles are purchased. The "sweet spots" are between 38% and 58% of the total mileage required, where miles are purchased for 1.5 cents. See here for some examples.

Beware of Cabotage: LifeMiles has been known to issue tickets that constitute Cabotage, and at least one instance of denied boarding has been reported, stranding the passenger. An easily-seen example is travel on Copa from LAX to SJU (via PTY).

Understand Cabotage: Departing country 1, transiting country 2, returning to country 1 (no stopping) *is* cabotage (example: depart JFK, connect in YYZ to return to ORD, or depart Miami, connect in Bogota, return to San Francisco). On the other hand, departing country 1, going to completely unrelated country 2, and ending up in country 3, is not cabotage. So if you fly JFK-JNB-ZRH, for instance, this is completely not cabotage.

Availability: Seeing availability for *A award seats elsewhere is no guarantee they are accessible on Lifemiles. For instance award space shown on ANA often is not accessible on Lifemiles. Similarly, finding award space on single legs doesn't mean you'll get award space on the combined itinerary. And no, there is no way to overcome that.

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Send email to [email protected] with attached screenshots on Lifemiles website of each individual leg showing availability. Also, screenshot showing no availability as one booking. Include passenger names, gender and DOB and copy of passenger passport. They will either call you for payment or email the itinerary and give you 3 days to call up and make payment by CC.

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Old Apr 5, 2016, 10:25 pm
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Oh great, an enhancement!
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Old Apr 6, 2016, 12:44 am
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Seems pretty buggy to me post maintenance.

Getting error " sorry itinerary you searched for is not available" on 3 out of 4 searches. Anyone getting same response ?
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Old Apr 6, 2016, 2:18 am
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TG still has issue with married segments

ETA: scrap that - it looks like even straight ex-BKK flights in F are not available any more...

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Old Apr 6, 2016, 3:36 am
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Originally Posted by jms_uk
TG still has issue with married segments

ETA: scrap that - it looks like even straight ex-BKK flights in F are not available any more...
I can't corroborate that. Probably an availability issue.

Interesting, though, searching short term they offer FRA-TG F-BKK, but BKK-TG C-PEK-LH F(!)-FRA.
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Old Apr 6, 2016, 3:53 am
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Originally Posted by WolfvanWeen
I can't corroborate that. Probably an availability issue.
Might be, but where there was plenty of availability couple of weeks ago [for various dates], I can't seem to find any. And this is on several C3-C2 routes...

Maybe I should stop checking anyway until the next 2x1,3x1 sale comes along
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Old Apr 13, 2016, 8:27 pm
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Quite a few C3-C2 boomerangs are no longer available!
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Old Apr 16, 2016, 11:34 pm
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Does NH ever release more than one F seat? I'd like to book LON-TYO, but only see a single seat on any dates I try.

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Old Apr 17, 2016, 3:18 am
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Originally Posted by slowly
Does NH ever release more than one F seat? I'd like to book LON-TYO, but one see a single seat on any dates I try.
not a definite yes or no. ive seen two seats open, or a second seat open after i took the first, or no second seat open up at all.....
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Old Apr 17, 2016, 4:22 am
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Originally Posted by Tokyoite
not a definite yes or no. ive seen two seats open, or a second seat open after i took the first, or no second seat open up at all.....
Same.
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Old Apr 17, 2016, 7:19 pm
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How many times a year does Avianca run a fare sale? I find it surprising that there hasn't been a 2x1 or 3x1 sale in the last few months.
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Old Apr 18, 2016, 3:51 am
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Originally Posted by iluvdoco
How many times a year does Avianca run a fare sale? I find it surprising that there hasn't been a 2x1 or 3x1 sale in the last few months.
Normally one about now.
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Old Apr 18, 2016, 6:12 am
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Originally Posted by onlysuites
Normally one about now.
Right - been pretty calm from Lifemiles for a while now. Something should come up by mid May
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Old Apr 19, 2016, 3:55 am
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Originally Posted by Tokyoite
not a definite yes or no. ive seen two seats open, or a second seat open after i took the first, or no second seat open up at all.....
Thanks! Is there a way to make a Lifemiles reservation (without payment) to see if a second seat opens?...
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Old Apr 19, 2016, 4:31 am
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Originally Posted by slowly
Thanks! Is there a way to make a Lifemiles reservation (without payment) to see if a second seat opens?...
no
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Old Apr 19, 2016, 5:13 am
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Originally Posted by slowly
Thanks! Is there a way to make a Lifemiles reservation (without payment) to see if a second seat opens?...
u can use any star alliance ffp currency, not only lifemiles!
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