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Old May 26, 2014, 8:47 am
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Originally Posted by Moderator2
Every forum on Flyertalk has a personality. A forum gains a personality through user input over time, and Lifemiles is a very definitive example of how users have developed a unique community.

While Flyertalk boards actively encourage sharing of info, the Lifemiles community has developed and thrived via obscuring of certain data elements. It may not be easy for new participants to break through the codes and gain knowledge of the program's quirks, but the overall board community has adopted this unique approach. And frankly, that is not going to change overnight.

If a FT member wants to participate on this board, then they will need to respect other users. Hence, posts that run counter to this community's standards, will be removed.
Region definitions
C1 North America
C1.5 Caribbean, Bermuda
C2 Europe
C2.5 Middle East
C3 Asia
C4 South America
C5 Africa
C6 Oceania

2X, 3X: in the context of this LifeMiles thread, 2X and 3X refer to any 2nd and 3rd legs of a one-way award ticket.

LifeMiles' Star Alliance Award Chart

LifeMiles' old Star Alliance Award Chart (before Oct 15 2014) // Table of changes

Cash & Miles redemptions: the price per mile purchased during award booking varies significantly depending on how many miles are purchased. The "sweet spots" are between 38% and 58% of the total mileage required, where miles are purchased for 1.5 cents. See here for some examples.

Beware of Cabotage: LifeMiles has been known to issue tickets that constitute Cabotage, and at least one instance of denied boarding has been reported, stranding the passenger. An easily-seen example is travel on Copa from LAX to SJU (via PTY).

Understand Cabotage: Departing country 1, transiting country 2, returning to country 1 (no stopping) *is* cabotage (example: depart JFK, connect in YYZ to return to ORD, or depart Miami, connect in Bogota, return to San Francisco). On the other hand, departing country 1, going to completely unrelated country 2, and ending up in country 3, is not cabotage. So if you fly JFK-JNB-ZRH, for instance, this is completely not cabotage.

Availability: Seeing availability for *A award seats elsewhere is no guarantee they are accessible on Lifemiles. For instance award space shown on ANA often is not accessible on Lifemiles. Similarly, finding award space on single legs doesn't mean you'll get award space on the combined itinerary. And no, there is no way to overcome that.

Screenshot Method
Send email to [email protected] with attached screenshots on Lifemiles website of each individual leg showing availability. Also, screenshot showing no availability as one booking. Include passenger names, gender and DOB and copy of passenger passport. They will either call you for payment or email the itinerary and give you 3 days to call up and make payment by CC.

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Old Nov 1, 2016, 8:01 am
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Originally Posted by Tokyoite
firebug.....google n decipher the rest!
Uh-huh. And you're saying you managed to get CBR to show up using something like that?

I do not think so.
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Old Nov 1, 2016, 8:24 am
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Originally Posted by datsuzei
Uh-huh. And you're saying you managed to get CBR to show up using something like that?

I do not think so.
Lol, of course



Not only that, you can use the same to search with city codes instead of airport codes, e.g. TYO, NYC, LON etc

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Old Nov 3, 2016, 9:19 am
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Used screenshot method to successfully book ORD-YYZ-VIE-TPE-HKG. Layover for almost 11 hrs in VIE. I thought LM doesn't allow layover of more than 8 hrs?
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Old Nov 3, 2016, 9:21 am
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Originally Posted by scibuff
Lol, of course



Not only that, you can use the same to search with city codes instead of airport codes, e.g. TYO, NYC, LON etc
Can you use screenshot method with firebug-manipulated pages?
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Old Nov 3, 2016, 2:48 pm
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Originally Posted by wwei5743
Used screenshot method to successfully book ORD-YYZ-VIE-TPE-HKG. Layover for almost 11 hrs in VIE. I thought LM doesn't allow layover of more than 8 hrs?
Direct on-line bookings limit(ed) transits to 8 hours.

The initial theory when screen-shots started to be used was that a requested booking needed to otherwise comply with what would have been available on-lie except for the glitch (ie 8 hours). That doesn't seem to have been enforced for quite some time however and transits longer than 8 hours have been regularly reported.
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Old Nov 17, 2016, 3:46 am
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SQ long haul J

In C3 and need to go C1 after Christmas. Anyone seen availability in J on any SQ routes to europe? Not looking for anything tricked. just availability

Im craving some BTC laksa and a super wide seat for a 1/2 day.
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Old Nov 17, 2016, 5:02 am
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C3-C1, SQ to Europe and nothing tricked. You have no idea what you want, really.

This is not the "LM routes and availability" thread.
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Old Nov 18, 2016, 5:07 pm
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A bit of post trimming was in order. Let's not forget some of my previous words of wisdom .

Originally Posted by Moderator2
Every forum on Flyertalk has a personality. A forum gains a personality through user input over time, and Lifemiles is a very definitive example of how users have developed a unique community.

While Flyertalk boards actively encourage sharing of info, the Lifemiles community has developed and thrived via obscuring of certain data elements. It may not be easy for new participants to break through the codes and gain knowledge of the program's quirks, but the overall board community has adopted this unique approach. And frankly, that is not going to change overnight.

If a FT member wants to participate on this board, then they will need to respect other users. Hence, posts that run counter to this community's standards, will be removed.

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Old Nov 21, 2016, 2:20 pm
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Originally Posted by michaelpowell44
In C3 and need to go C1 after Christmas. Anyone seen availability in J on any SQ routes to europe? Not looking for anything tricked. just availability

Im craving some BTC laksa and a super wide seat for a 1/2 day.
some turkey meat could be good...
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Old Nov 22, 2016, 2:17 pm
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Old Nov 27, 2016, 5:59 pm
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I need a flight in J as follows:


SIN-EUROPE(STOPOVER)-YYZ

Lv SIN Apr 10/11, Lv Europe Apr 16

Any help is appreciated, you can PM me.
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Old Nov 27, 2016, 7:33 pm
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Originally Posted by djjaguar64
I need a flight in J as follows:


SIN-EUROPE(STOPOVER)-YYZ

Lv SIN Apr 10/11, Lv Europe Apr 16

Any help is appreciated, you can PM me.
stopover is not allow, need two awards ticket
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Old Nov 27, 2016, 7:34 pm
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Originally Posted by jjjohn
stopover is not allow, need two awards ticket
Thats what I thought.
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Old Nov 29, 2016, 5:02 am
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Originally Posted by djjaguar64
I need a flight in J as follows:
SIN-EUROPE(STOPOVER)-YYZ
Lv SIN Apr 10/11, Lv Europe Apr 16
Any help is appreciated, you can PM me.
dunno if it would work, but ticket the whole itinerary, and then call in to change the second leg for 150$.....
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Old Nov 29, 2016, 7:26 am
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Originally Posted by Tokyoite
dunno if it would work, but ticket the whole itinerary, and then call in to change the second leg for 150$.....
Thats not a bad idea
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