Go Back  FlyerTalk Forums > Miles&Points > Airlines and Mileage Programs > Avianca | LifeMiles and Amigo
Reload this Page >

LM F and J routes (and the occasional trick-it) Rebooted v2.0

Community
Wiki Posts
Search
Old May 26, 2014, 8:47 am
FlyerTalk Forums Expert How-Tos and Guides
Last edit by: SingaporeDon
Originally Posted by Moderator2
Every forum on Flyertalk has a personality. A forum gains a personality through user input over time, and Lifemiles is a very definitive example of how users have developed a unique community.

While Flyertalk boards actively encourage sharing of info, the Lifemiles community has developed and thrived via obscuring of certain data elements. It may not be easy for new participants to break through the codes and gain knowledge of the program's quirks, but the overall board community has adopted this unique approach. And frankly, that is not going to change overnight.

If a FT member wants to participate on this board, then they will need to respect other users. Hence, posts that run counter to this community's standards, will be removed.
Region definitions
C1 North America
C1.5 Caribbean, Bermuda
C2 Europe
C2.5 Middle East
C3 Asia
C4 South America
C5 Africa
C6 Oceania

2X, 3X: in the context of this LifeMiles thread, 2X and 3X refer to any 2nd and 3rd legs of a one-way award ticket.

LifeMiles' Star Alliance Award Chart

LifeMiles' old Star Alliance Award Chart (before Oct 15 2014) // Table of changes

Cash & Miles redemptions: the price per mile purchased during award booking varies significantly depending on how many miles are purchased. The "sweet spots" are between 38% and 58% of the total mileage required, where miles are purchased for 1.5 cents. See here for some examples.

Beware of Cabotage: LifeMiles has been known to issue tickets that constitute Cabotage, and at least one instance of denied boarding has been reported, stranding the passenger. An easily-seen example is travel on Copa from LAX to SJU (via PTY).

Understand Cabotage: Departing country 1, transiting country 2, returning to country 1 (no stopping) *is* cabotage (example: depart JFK, connect in YYZ to return to ORD, or depart Miami, connect in Bogota, return to San Francisco). On the other hand, departing country 1, going to completely unrelated country 2, and ending up in country 3, is not cabotage. So if you fly JFK-JNB-ZRH, for instance, this is completely not cabotage.

Availability: Seeing availability for *A award seats elsewhere is no guarantee they are accessible on Lifemiles. For instance award space shown on ANA often is not accessible on Lifemiles. Similarly, finding award space on single legs doesn't mean you'll get award space on the combined itinerary. And no, there is no way to overcome that.

Screenshot Method
Send email to [email protected] with attached screenshots on Lifemiles website of each individual leg showing availability. Also, screenshot showing no availability as one booking. Include passenger names, gender and DOB and copy of passenger passport. They will either call you for payment or email the itinerary and give you 3 days to call up and make payment by CC.

NOTE: This previous thread has been closed; it can be read here LM F and J routes (and the occasional trick-it)
Print Wikipost

LM F and J routes (and the occasional trick-it) Rebooted v2.0

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 19, 2016, 2:17 pm
  #2371  
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 3,725
Has there ever been SQ J availability on AKL-SIN? Not looking for a tricked routing.

I tried some random dates and there is AKL-WLG-SIN with WLG-SIN on SQ J and AKL-NRT-SIN on NZ J/ANA F. Would prefer a non-stop segment.
iluvdoco is offline  
Old Aug 29, 2016, 9:50 am
  #2372  
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: southUSA
Posts: 398
Any evidence to multi-segment bookings in a certain classes and changing the booking?

I have booked a 3 segment tricked route and want to change the routing (no origin or destination change).

1 flight is F, the other two are in Y. The agent is saying only 1 flight (also more restrictive (the first flight)) can be in F and the other 2 have to be in Y.
michaelpowell44 is offline  
Old Aug 29, 2016, 10:56 am
  #2373  
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Tokyo
Programs: Marriott Plat, HH G,Hyatt E,*A Gold, OW Emerald.
Posts: 3,023
Originally Posted by michaelpowell44
Any evidence to multi-segment bookings in a certain classes and changing the booking?

I have booked a 3 segment tricked route and want to change the routing (no origin or destination change).
OMG! you booked a tricked route and then called to make changes?
cancel and rebook online!
Tokyoite is offline  
Old Aug 29, 2016, 11:28 am
  #2374  
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 3,839
Originally Posted by michaelpowell44
Any evidence to multi-segment bookings in a certain classes and changing the booking?

I have booked a 3 segment tricked route and want to change the routing (no origin or destination change).
You sir, are genius @:-)
mlqsko is offline  
Old Aug 29, 2016, 1:14 pm
  #2375  
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: PHX
Posts: 4,787
How long does the screenshot method usually take? There are four of us travelling and I only have enough lifemiles to book for 2 of us, and I'm going to book the other two using United miles transferred from Chase. But I want to get the timing right. I just sent the e-mail to lifemiles. I can cancel a United booking within 24 hours, but I don't want to transfer Chase points to United until I know the lifemiles booking is secure.

The lifemiles booking is uncertain because I'm trying to get a stopover of more than 8 hours so it's not a sure thing at all. So, trying to get a sense of when I might hear back.
lkar is offline  
Old Aug 30, 2016, 3:54 am
  #2376  
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: BTS
Posts: 611
Originally Posted by michaelpowell44
Any evidence to multi-segment bookings in a certain classes and changing the booking?

I have booked a 3 segment tricked route and want to change the routing (no origin or destination change).

1 flight is F, the other two are in Y. The agent is saying only 1 flight (also more restrictive (the first flight)) can be in F and the other 2 have to be in Y.
I wish the agent cancelled and correctly repriced your booking - it would serve you right! It is nothing more than what you deserve!

p.s. why would you even attempt to change it? the change fee is more than cancellation
scibuff is offline  
Old Aug 30, 2016, 3:56 am
  #2377  
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: BTS
Posts: 611
Originally Posted by lkar
How long does the screenshot method usually take? There are four of us travelling and I only have enough lifemiles to book for 2 of us, and I'm going to book the other two using United miles transferred from Chase. But I want to get the timing right. I just sent the e-mail to lifemiles. I can cancel a United booking within 24 hours, but I don't want to transfer Chase points to United until I know the lifemiles booking is secure.

The lifemiles booking is uncertain because I'm trying to get a stopover of more than 8 hours so it's not a sure thing at all. So, trying to get a sense of when I might hear back.
YMMW

Seriously, I don't get it why some people just can't be happy with the system as it is ... but always have to push it one step further. Officially, the screenshot method doesn't work with *layovers* (at least learn the difference between a stopover and a layover) of more than 8 hours
scibuff is offline  
Old Aug 30, 2016, 4:00 am
  #2378  
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: southUSA
Posts: 398
I stand corrected. That was a quick thoughtless attempt to get what I selfishly wanted. I will just keep it as is, instead of risking the chance for them to find the trick.
michaelpowell44 is offline  
Old Aug 30, 2016, 9:14 am
  #2379  
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: PHX
Posts: 4,787
Originally Posted by scibuff
YMMW

Seriously, I don't get it why some people just can't be happy with the system as it is ... but always have to push it one step further. Officially, the screenshot method doesn't work with *layovers* (at least learn the difference between a stopover and a layover) of more than 8 hours
I think I've used the term correctly. Lifemiles regards anything over 8 hours as a stopover, not a layover, so what I've asked them to do is book me on one ticket and treat what they regard as stopover as a layover. If they ticket it, it will be a layover, since it would then be all under one COC, but under their rules it's a stopover.

As far as pushing the envelope, I guess I take your point but given some of the stuff that people do with lifemiles, this really doesn't seem to be pushing it too much. Plus, they are free to tell me no. It's not like my asking is going to end some hidden deal. I'm merely asking that the last flight in and the first flight out, even though it's 10 hours, be treated as a layover not a stopover by submitting via screenshot. I'm booking HAM-VIE-ORD, and the VIE flight leaves too early to make a connection from HAM, so I submitted it with the last flight into VIE the night before. If people really think that violates some tenet of flyertalk, I'm prepared to listen, but it seems pretty innocuous.

Anyway, to answer my own question, the answer is about 24 hours and they have indeed allowed me to do it.
lkar is offline  
Old Aug 31, 2016, 3:38 am
  #2380  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Programs: BA Silver, EY Gold, HH Diamond, IHG Plat
Posts: 12,210
I bet you he will still do it.
onlysuites is offline  
Old Aug 31, 2016, 4:08 pm
  #2381  
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: southUSA
Posts: 398
Originally Posted by onlysuites
I bet you he will still do it.
no. i will not.
michaelpowell44 is offline  
Old Sep 1, 2016, 6:41 pm
  #2382  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: YYZ
Programs: A3&O6 Gold,IC AMB & HH Diamond
Posts: 14,132
I am trying to search YYZ-SIN for Dec and it takes forever and then comes back with an error. I thought it was only on my work pc. But same error at home


Sorry, There was problem while processing your transaction.
Please try again.If the problem persists or you need additional information please contact LifeMiles Support.
djjaguar64 is offline  
Old Sep 2, 2016, 1:35 am
  #2383  
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: BTS
Posts: 611
Originally Posted by djjaguar64
I am trying to search YYZ-SIN for Dec and it takes forever and then comes back with an error. I thought it was only on my work pc. But same error at home


Sorry, There was problem while processing your transaction.
Please try again.If the problem persists or you need additional information please contact LifeMiles Support.
YMMW



It happens especially when there's no availability and the system times out searching too many routes. Check availability elsewhere ...
scibuff is offline  
Old Sep 2, 2016, 8:18 am
  #2384  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: YYZ
Programs: A3&O6 Gold,IC AMB & HH Diamond
Posts: 14,132
Originally Posted by scibuff
YMMW



It happens especially when there's no availability and the system times out searching too many routes. Check availability elsewhere ...
Agreed, i would have expected the system to say no availability. IT issues.
djjaguar64 is offline  
Old Sep 4, 2016, 9:38 am
  #2385  
CG
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: Annapolis, MD
Posts: 483
Originally Posted by djjaguar64
I am trying to search YYZ-SIN for Dec and it takes forever and then comes back with an error. I thought it was only on my work pc. But same error at home


Sorry, There was problem while processing your transaction.
Please try again.If the problem persists or you need additional information please contact LifeMiles Support.
This often happens using "Smart Search" and as others have indicated it's a timeout function. To keep it from timing out, select the specific airline you want and the closest time before the departure you want, i.e. if you're looking for a United flight that leaves at 1:00 PM choose United and 11:00 AM for the departure time. The United choice somewhat restricts the flights and the time keeps it for searching for earlier flights.
CG is offline  


Contact Us - Manage Preferences - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

This site is owned, operated, and maintained by MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Designated trademarks are the property of their respective owners.