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American Airlines Business Extra® Program (master thread)

Historical Notes
  • October 5th, 2021: New award types introduced: BXL1 for Platinum status and BXP0 to convert Business Extra points to AA miles at a 1:6 rate. New requirement introduced to redeem: Starting January 1, 2023, current members will be required to have three unique travelers and maintain $5,000 in qualifying Business Extra flight activity during the previous 12-month period to redeem points.This policy will go into effect immediately for new members who join the program on October 4, 2021 or later.
  • Feb 2018 - BXP1, BXP2, BXP3 Upgrade Certificates can be redeemed electronically, without the need to redeem or submit paper certificates. [URL="https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29470237-post1150.html"[/url]
  • Dec 2015 - Unannounced more-restrictive changes to BXP upgrade certificates implemented. [URL="http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/american-airlines-aadvantage/898180-business-extra-program-master-thread-consolidated.html#post25942133"[/url]
  • Nov 2015 - Europe AA Business Extra closed and migrated to AA-BA-IB On Business [URL="http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/american-airlines-aadvantage-combined-airline-program/1715008-aa-ba-ib-europe-business-programme-nov-30-2015-ex-business-extra-europe.html"[/url]
  • Oct 2014 - Business Extra Awards may be redeemed for flights on US Airways
  • Sep 2013 - Business ExtrAA brand changed to simply Business Extra
  • Sep 2012 - Upgrade Awards are no longer restricted to use within 30 days of travel [url=http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/19345217-post394.html[/url]

Key Information
  • Promotion Codes - For a current list of Business ExtrAA promotions, see: Business ExtrAA Bonus Offers (consolidated)

  • Point Expiration - Business Extra points expire on a rolling basis, two years after the year in which they are earned, on December 31 at midnight U.S. Central Time. Their validity can not be extended.

  • Award Redemption - All awards must be redeemed via the Business Extra website. Flight Awards are delivered electronically via email with an Electronic Authorization Number. Upgrade Awards and Admirals Club Day Passes are delivered in paper certificate form via regular mail. Redemption sweeps occur twice per week and expedited delivery is available if you provide your FedEx/UPS account number via email. Gold Status and Admirals Club Membership awards are processed and active in the member's account after approximately one week, with other membership materials delivered in the mail within 4 weeks.

    Note: BE awards must be booked on nonstop flights if they are available between your origin and destination.

  • Award Inventory Codes - Per Meeting Services, Business Extra Awards book into the following inventory (although there are conflicting reports from mvoight and InsipidMonkey on whether or not this information is accurate for PlanAAhead Awards, for which availability may be significantly less than MileSAAver Award and/or T inventory availability):Award Type Books Into
    PlanAAhead - Economy T
    PlanAAhead - Business* U
    PlanAAhead - First† Z

    AAnytime - Economy Y
    AAnytime - Business* J
    AAnytime - First† F

    Upgrade to Business* C
    Upgrade to First† A

    * = First class cabin on 2-class flights
    † = First class cabin on 3-class flights

  • Flight Award Reservations - Award Tickets must be booked through AA Meeting Services at 1-800-433-1790 (U.S. and Canada; others contact your local reservations office), and you will need to provide the Reservations Agent with the Electronic Authorization Number from your award certificate. As of Oct 2012, flight awards can be booked without a telephone booking service charge.

  • Flight Award Expiration - As published on the Business Extra website, Award Tickets must be booked within one year of redeeming the certificate, and are then valid for one year from booking:

    Award ticket must be issued by midnight one year from the original award redemption date. Tickets issued against Business Extra flight awards are then valid for one year from the ticket issue date.
  • Upgrade Award Reservations - Upgrade Awards may be applied once a reservation is Ticketed by calling AA Meeting Services or using the Business Extra website. Once requested online you will receive an email with a confirmation number and serial numbers for each upgrade certificate requested.

    Upgrade Awards carry fare restrictions (excludes B, N, O, Q or S fares). Take careful note of your fare when making a reservation. It is possible to "Upfare" a reservation from the lowest available fare to an BXP-upgrade-eligible fare by placing it on Hold at AA.com, calling AA to request the desired higher fare basis code, then completing the purchase online.

    You can specify ITA searches that exclude the ineligible fares as follows:jfk:: aa /f ~bc = b & ~bc = n & ~bc = o & ~bc = q & ~bc = s

    (Or you can place everything after the slash directly in the second advanced control box.)

    These filters can also be concatenated with other commands, such as maximum duration, separated with a semicolon:jfk:: aa /maxdur 800 ; f ~bc = b & ~bc = n & ~bc = o & ~bc = q & ~bc = s

  • Upgrade Award Expiration - Electronic BXP Upgrade Awards are valid for 1 year from redemption. Previously, paper Upgrade Awards were valid thru Jun 30 or Dec 31 of the following year, with the exact date depending on the batch of certificates available at the time of redemption.

  • Returning Unused Awards - Points redeemed for awards but not yet applied to a ticket can be returned for no charge by using the 'returns' option in your account options. Points will be reinstated with an expiration date 2 calendar years from reinstatement (i.e., expiring on December 31 two calendar years from reinstatement). For awards already applied to a ticket, you must call Business ExtrAA customer services at 800-457-7072, or email [email protected]. Customers outside the US should use the email.
  • Business Extra Account Credit - A Business Extra number can be added to an existing reservation (for example, booked by a third-party travel agent) by calling AA Meeting Services.

    A Business Extra number can be added to an existing BA reservation as follows:
    1. Go to www.britishairways.com
    2. Select 'Manage My Booking' tab
    3. Follow the instructions to pull up your reservation
    4. Select the link towards bottom listed under 'Quick Links' 'Add On Business or Business Extra number'
    5. Add your Business Extra number and check the box to give your consent.

    Retroactive credit for completed travel can be requested via the Business Extra website.

  • Contact Business Extra

    Web home page: https://www.businessextra.com

    Booking and Ticketing (Meeting Services desk)
    www.aa.com
    1-800-433-1790 5:00 a.m. - 12:00 midnight (CT) 7 days a week

    Business Extra Customer Service
    1-800-457-7072 8:00 a.m. - 5:00 p.m. (CT) Monday - Friday
    Fax: 1-817-931-9029
    E-mail: [email protected]

    Link to aa.com BE contact web form
    http://www.aa.com/contactAA/viewEmai...businessExtrAA

    Link to BE web contact form

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Old Oct 5, 2021, 5:43 pm
  #1366  
 
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Originally Posted by ikwia
If your company meets the redemption criteria, I agree. But there are companies that earned the points with 3+ employees and 150K+ annual spend, but are no longer in that situation. It's clearly not great for those folks.
150k spend? I thought it said 5k spend.
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Old Oct 5, 2021, 5:57 pm
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Originally Posted by ralphs
150k spend? I thought it said 5k spend.
It did.
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Old Oct 5, 2021, 6:41 pm
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Originally Posted by ralphs
150k spend? I thought it said 5k spend.
It did. But the people who had 30x that spend and now cannot redeem the points in the manner expected are likely disappointed -- I know I am.
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Old Oct 6, 2021, 8:24 am
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Originally Posted by ikwia
If your company meets the redemption criteria, I agree. But there are companies that earned the points with 3+ employees and 150K+ annual spend, but are no longer in that situation. It's clearly not great for those folks.
Are you not in that situation because of less travel, or the 3 person requirement?

Originally Posted by ikwia
It did. But the people who had 30x that spend and now cannot redeem the points in the manner expected are likely disappointed -- I know I am.
You can still redeem through the end of 2022 I believe.
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Old Oct 6, 2021, 10:11 am
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I'll probably cash out for BXP1s at the end of 2022.

The program got us lie-flats to Hawaii and a few other victories of the years, so it was a pretty decent run while it lasted.
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Old Oct 6, 2021, 12:33 pm
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I consider this change very reasonable.
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Old Oct 6, 2021, 5:18 pm
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Agree. They never intended for this to be for random solo businesses as sole proprietors and minimal revenue, Nice enough to show us the door rather than going to war.
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Old Oct 6, 2021, 5:26 pm
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Originally Posted by ikwia
It did. But the people who had 30x that spend and now cannot redeem the points in the manner expected are likely disappointed -- I know I am.
Do you have family or friends? Just have them use your BE number and you’ll have three unique travellers. It’s not that hard, folks.
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Old Oct 6, 2021, 5:28 pm
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Originally Posted by TravelerMSY
Agree. They never intended for this to be for random solo businesses as sole proprietors and minimal revenue, Nice enough to show us the door rather than going to war.
Even if that wasn’t the intent. The criteria is doable for anyone who is PLT or better during a year. Again, this is not an oppressive change.
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Old Oct 6, 2021, 5:29 pm
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I don't see what stops those sole props from booking one trip a year under their significant other, friends, or family. And the 5k revenue number seems very reasonable to me. I don't think this is a problem.
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Old Oct 6, 2021, 9:28 pm
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Originally Posted by TravelerMSY
Agree. They never intended for this to be for random solo businesses as sole proprietors and minimal revenue, Nice enough to show us the door rather than going to war.
While I’m not going to celebrate these changes, I agree they are pretty reasonable. Anyone who wasn’t crediting at least a few thousand dollars a year to the program wasn’t getting the most out of it anyway. Points expire 2-3 years after they are earned. I did appreciate the ability to get a couple Admirals Club passes even in the lean years when travel was down (which I gave away to my employees or colleagues) but no big deal.

I do take exception to the fact that businessextra.com is, right this very minute, advertising “Business Extra is is free to join and there's no minimum spend requirement.” While that is technically true it seems deceptive. They are also still highlighting Three Twins Ice Cream in their customer spotlight. The founder of that company was a well-known flyertalker but if I’m not mistaken the business failed some time ago.
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Old Oct 7, 2021, 12:09 am
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Originally Posted by onfo
I have 7,500 points expiring at year end and haven't been traveling much. Any thoughts on the best use? It's a shame they haven't offered any extensions on expiring points.
I will gladly help you use them if you need help
The easiest way to use that amount of points is one domestic plane ticket. The most "value" for that amount of miles is probably 2x Int'l One-Way Upgrade on Discounted Fare awards. If you have any plans to travel somewhere far thats probably the most "value" since a long international flight is so much money in business.
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Old Oct 7, 2021, 2:33 am
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Originally Posted by txpenny
Are you not in that situation because of less travel, or the 3 person requirement?

....

You can still redeem through the end of 2022 I believe.
As of now, I wouldn't meet even the $5K spend requirement, and I also no longer meet the 3 person requirement. We'll see how my customers decide to proceed regarding travel. I expect I'll meet the $5K fairly soon but I don't see a return to travel for my support staff.

And yes I can still redeem through 2022, But I've got points that don't expire until 2024 and there are fairly easy ways to roll over the points so I definitely wasn't planning on having them all spent even by then. I understand it would add complexity, but I would have liked to see existing points grandfathered under the old rules.
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Old Oct 7, 2021, 2:42 am
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I've read some of the recent replies, and while I don't disagree that the changes are reasonable overall, I'm still not sure I think it's fair to change the redemption conditions for existing points. I realize it's not the exact same situation, but imagine that they said you can't redeem your existing AAdvantage miles without some minimum spend... I doubt many would find that fair, but I could be wrong. I've got 80K points to burn and not much time to do it.
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Old Oct 7, 2021, 9:05 am
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Back when Biz ExtrAA first started, you just told the AA people how many employees you had, without giving any names, and they sent the administrator for a different company than where I am now, a matching number of day passes for the Admirals Club and matching number of drink/headset coupons. None of these had any expiration dates. It was a gold mine back in the day. No wonder they chose to reign it in.
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