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lrbenko Sep 22, 2021 6:47 am


Originally Posted by ExpatExp (Post 33587126)
We gave up on Business Extra logging all our travellers' flights correctly. It's super prone to error. I don't understand why. But it just became too much of a hassle to contact them constantly to correct things. So now we get what we get and it's a nice bonus but we don't worry about the ones which slip through the cracks.

It's a fairly big percentage that it misses too. For my last 4 flights, none have posted and when I submit the the missing flight, I get "ticket number not elidable" and I can't find anywhere why that would be. But yet all of my employees flights show up. Who knows?

txpenny Sep 22, 2021 10:10 am


Originally Posted by mvoight (Post 33586005)
Or, simply call and request they extend, so you don't have to redeem and redeposit

I called. No extension. I was told to redeem in December so I would have 12 months to use. If I couldn't use before expiry, they would redeposit the award. Seems silly to go through that when a simple extension would accomplish the same thing. Come to think of it, eventually the redeem and redeposit is better than an extension in terms of expiration date.

Robert Oct 5, 2021 8:52 am

Received an email from Business Extra titled “New awards & program changes from Business Extra”. Of note:


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Not thrilled with this new requirement.

taxatty56 Oct 5, 2021 8:58 am

I just got the same email. The feared negative changes in AA program benefits have started.

texmanufan Oct 5, 2021 8:58 am

Delta has a similar requirement in their program except five active instead of three. Been that way for a while,

ikwia Oct 5, 2021 9:11 am

I currently cannot login to the site (I get a proxy gateway timeout error) to see how bad the points to miles conversion rate is...I'm going to need to cash out a LOT of points, sadly :(

LovePrunes Oct 5, 2021 9:12 am

I mean just like MOST negative changes to FF programs over the years, they probably should have made these their policies from the beginning, but didn't realize what monsters they were creating at the time.
• Anyone sign up for any "company" no matter how much you spend? Sure! Great idea!
• Give out miles for distance flown instead of fare paid? Right on!

Seems like its the inevitable clamping down on Biz Extraa but it was a nice ride while it lasted. My small co doesn't spend $5000 a year in air fare, so I'll redeem in late 2022 and be done with it.

swag Oct 5, 2021 9:15 am


Originally Posted by ikwia (Post 33620789)
I currently cannot login to the site (I get a proxy gateway timeout error) to see how bad the points to miles conversion rate is...I'm going to need to cash out a LOT of points, sadly :(

Looks like 1 BE point => 6 AA miles.
Minimum conversion 100 BE.

ikwia Oct 5, 2021 9:23 am


Originally Posted by swag (Post 33620798)
Looks like 1 BE point => 6 AA miles.
Minimum conversion 100 BE.

Thanks. If I'm remembering the award table correctly, this is a really bad conversion rate. IIRC, an Anytime coach roundtrip award was 5000 points. That would get you 30000 miles, which is nowhere near enough for an Anytime roundtrip coach ticket in my experience.

ikwia Oct 5, 2021 9:24 am

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jcatman Oct 5, 2021 9:26 am

Should make for a busy season of gifting December 2022......

texmanufan Oct 5, 2021 9:27 am

I really see the changes as more positive than negative. The additional ability to redeem for Platinum status as well as the conversion to AAdvantage miles. I know that ratio isn't the best however it gives another option for expiring points.

golfmad Oct 5, 2021 9:30 am

What happens for companies in the USA which mainly purchase flights on airlines other than AA (e.g. BA) and credits company points to Business Extra? This is the recommended practice by BA for companies based in the USA. It will end up with lots of points without the required qualifying expenditure to redeem them :confused:. Or have it misunderstood the change?

ikwia Oct 5, 2021 9:33 am


Originally Posted by texmanufan (Post 33620837)
I really see the changes as more positive than negative. The additional ability to redeem for Platinum status as well as the conversion to AAdvantage miles. I know that ratio isn't the best however it gives another option for expiring points.

If your company meets the redemption criteria, I agree. But there are companies that earned the points with 3+ employees and 150K+ annual spend, but are no longer in that situation. It's clearly not great for those folks.

uxb Oct 5, 2021 9:58 am


Originally Posted by Robert (Post 33620741)
Received an email from Business Extra titled “New awards & program changes from Business Extra”. Of note:

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Not thrilled with this new requirement.

I don’t think any of us are thrilled, but it was expected. Also, what’s an active traveller anyway? If it’s someone that takes a single flight a year, then it’s more than doable. DL requires five such travellers and their award pricing sucks. If you fly AA regularly, these changes are not the end of the world.


Originally Posted by swag (Post 33620798)
Looks like 1 BE point => 6 AA miles.
Minimum conversion 100 BE.

Okay, so we won’t convert. However, this conversion is handy for those who never make enough points for an award. It makes this programme more flexible and flexibility is good in the long run. This is one change I actually like even if I never use it.


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