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mvoight Oct 7, 2021 11:36 am


Originally Posted by texmanufan (Post 33620837)
I really see the changes as more positive than negative. The additional ability to redeem for Platinum status as well as the conversion to AAdvantage miles. I know that ratio isn't the best however it gives another option for expiring points.

The ratio sucks. If you have enough points to redeem for a travel award, you should be able to get enough miles to pay for a similar travel award, not at the highest levels, perhaps, but at least the minimum number of miles
For example 2000 BE points gets you a non transcon, which would cost 12500 miles. As the minimum requirement goes up o $5000 per year, that means the minimum points earned before expiration is 3000 ($5000 = 1000 points)
So, except for newbies, and current members (untl Jan 1, 2023) who earn under 2000 miles, I don't see this conversion being a good thing.at this rate, unless the goal is simply to top off miles to reach an award level.
Of course the change to 3 travelers is a bit interesting, since it makes sense to allow accounts with 3 people at $5000 per year total versus 2 people spending $100K per year for company travel.
At that level, it would be worth it to buy a ticket for another person so you have 3 people. Tell them it was for a doing such a good job. :)
Sometimes, although rarely, I actually get an odd booking using my company BE number. I try to contact these people to ask why, but I have never gotten a response.

yerffej201 Oct 7, 2021 12:43 pm

i redeemed for bxp1s in feb 2020, which expired feb 2021. obviously due to covid i was unable to use them. were there automatic extensions of these certs?

mvoight Oct 7, 2021 5:34 pm


Originally Posted by yerffej201 (Post 33626534)
i redeemed for bxp1s in feb 2020, which expired feb 2021. obviously due to covid i was unable to use them. were there automatic extensions of these certs?

I would call in and ask if you can redeposit them

jcatman Oct 7, 2021 9:09 pm


Originally Posted by yerffej201 (Post 33626534)
i redeemed for bxp1s in feb 2020, which expired feb 2021. obviously due to covid i was unable to use them. were there automatic extensions of these certs?

In my recent experience, they are being very liberal about allowing you to redeposit certificates (converting them back into points).

In my recent experience, they sometimes have a very difficult time locating redeemed certificates, even when you provide customer service reps the redemption date; confirmation number; and authorization number. It's best to save those confirmation emails when you make the redemption......otherwise, you may find yourself in the Business Extra Twilight Zone.

PHLFlyerDL Oct 8, 2021 3:30 pm

Expired Points 2021
 

Originally Posted by jcatman (Post 33627593)
In my recent experience, they are being very liberal about allowing you to redeposit certificates (converting them back into points).

In my recent experience, they sometimes have a very difficult time locating redeemed certificates, even when you provide customer service reps the redemption date; confirmation number; and authorization number. It's best to save those confirmation emails when you make the redemption......otherwise, you may find yourself in the Business Extra Twilight Zone.

----I was wondering if anyone thought AA would again extent when points will expire this year. As another year has gone b with travel I would like to move these again to 2022. Delta has extended their program but have not heard anything from AA.
If they do not, is it possible to redeem an award for the miles expiring and then calll and ask to have them re-deposited? Does this reset the expire date another 2 years?
Thanks!

JJeffrey Oct 9, 2021 7:38 am


Originally Posted by PHLFlyerDL (Post 33629313)
----I was wondering if anyone thought AA would again extent when points will expire this year. As another year has gone b with travel I would like to move these again to 2022. Delta has extended their program but have not heard anything from AA.
If they do not, is it possible to redeem an award for the miles expiring and then calll and ask to have them re-deposited? Does this reset the expire date another 2 years?
Thanks!

You don't even have to call. Just go online and redeem an award (for more points than are set to expire), then immediately go find the award under Returns>Return Award, select it and click through to return. The points are redeposited and expiration date reset. Done this the past 2 years.

PHLFlyerDL Oct 9, 2021 9:09 am

Thanks this is great news... do I have to use ALL of the expire points for the date to be reset? I may want to save some for possible usage later this year.
Also, I assume when I have redeemed, I go to the menu RETRUNS, enter the search dates, and then an option appears to return them? THE FAQ mentioned that these are be return at no fee but only by calling? But that could have not been updated to the new process.
And to be clear, if I do this today, these returned points will go to 12/31/2022 not 2021.

Antarius Oct 9, 2021 9:34 am


Originally Posted by uxb (Post 33624675)
Do you have family or friends? Just have them use your BE number and you’ll have three unique travellers. It’s not that hard, folks.

Bingo.

That said, i don't understand the 5 person minimum. The revenue number should knock down a lot of sole proprietorships and random one off travelers. If 3 people meet the spend, it's actually more profitable for AA than 5.

mvoight Oct 9, 2021 9:37 am


Originally Posted by Antarius (Post 33630588)
Bingo.

That said, i don't understand the 5 person minimum. The revenue number should knock down a lot of sole proprietorships and random one off travelers. If 3 people meet the spend, it's actually more profitable for AA than 5.

I thought the new minimum was going go be 3.

Antarius Oct 9, 2021 9:42 am


Originally Posted by mvoight (Post 33630596)
I thought the new minimum was going go be 3.

Sorry, you're right. I guess 3 vs 2 for my question then!

mvoight Oct 9, 2021 12:21 pm


Originally Posted by Antarius (Post 33630601)
Sorry, you're right. I guess 3 vs 2 for my question then!

Do you ever get random people who have some how manage to enter your number?

ikwia Oct 10, 2021 10:29 am


Originally Posted by mvoight (Post 33630925)
Do you ever get random people who have some how manage to enter your number?

Were that to happen and the member not report it, they may well become the victim of AA's historically aggressive actions against those that they think are abusing their affinity programs.

aisleorwindow Oct 21, 2021 12:22 pm

Do you have to credit your flights to Aadvantage to get the Business Extraa points?

Specifically I have some flights coming up that I want to credit to Alaska, but they are on AA metal so would like to get the Business Extraa points as well if possible.

golfmad Oct 21, 2021 12:25 pm


Originally Posted by aisleorwindow (Post 33663568)
Do you have to credit your flights to Aadvantage to get the Business Extraa points?

Specifically I have some flights coming up that I want to credit to Alaska, but they are on AA metal so would like to get the Business Extraa points as well if possible.

No, you don't need to.

I routinely credit my personal points to my British Airways account but my company points to Business Extra. My company is based in the US so it qualifies for membership of the AA program.

aisleorwindow Oct 21, 2021 12:45 pm


Originally Posted by golfmad (Post 33663574)
No, you don't need to.

I routinely credit my personal points to my British Airways account but my company points to Business Extra. My company is based in the US so it qualifies for membership of the AA program.

Great news, thank you!


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