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donotblink Nov 24, 2021 11:08 pm


Originally Posted by Explore (Post 33757468)
Thanks...and can the elite member use it for a friend who is not traveling on their PNR?

you can give it to anyone as long as you don’t sell it

PHL Nov 25, 2021 9:26 am


Originally Posted by worldiswide (Post 33757392)
Same inventory bucket but I believe there are fare class restrictions for business extra upgrades. I remember a couple of years ago needing to upfare to an eligible fare class ..it wasn't a large cost but not sure what rules are in place these days.

BXP1 cannot be used on fare codes S, N, O, G and Q.

TravelerMSY Nov 25, 2021 3:11 pm

Are these BXP1 upgrades useful to a Plat Pro?

Amil Nov 25, 2021 9:42 pm


Originally Posted by TravelerMSY (Post 33759082)
Are these BXP1 upgrades useful to a Plat Pro?


I would think so since a Plat Pro and EXP is more likely to be a buyer of a J to get status. and would want to use a J-F upgrade on a LAX-JFK etc but if thats not your thing then no. its a waste. maybe instead of using stickers for a companion though u could use the cert?

Antarius Nov 25, 2021 9:59 pm


Originally Posted by Amil (Post 33759620)
I would think so since a Plat Pro and EXP is more likely to be a buyer of a J to get status. and would want to use a J-F upgrade on a LAX-JFK etc but if thats not your thing then no. its a waste. maybe instead of using stickers for a companion though u could use the cert?

There are plenty of PPro and EXPs that don't frequently buy J. For them, it's as good as a SWU on a domestic flight and avoids the upgrade lottery

GrumpyYoungMan Nov 26, 2021 3:47 am


Originally Posted by PHL (Post 33758371)
BXP1 cannot be used on fare codes S, N, O, G and Q.

Unless there has been a recent change, G is good to go for BXP1. But add B to your list, those won't work.

FlyerBeek Nov 26, 2021 4:52 am


Originally Posted by PHL (Post 33758371)
BXP1 cannot be used on fare codes S, N, O, G and Q.

G is definitely good for BXP1s. I think it's the lowest inventory bucket that is good for BXP1s. I know this because many of my GSA (government/military) tickets book into G and it's one of those rare instances when I cannot use a SWU but a BXP1 works fine. ​​​​​​​​​​​​​​-FlyerBeek​​​​​​​

PHL Nov 27, 2021 8:28 am

Sorry folks...I transposed some keys when typing those restricted fare buckets. Indeed, the ones that can't be used are B, N, O, Q, S.

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...2ba72dfd0b.png

FlyerBeek Nov 29, 2021 2:54 am

Reminder, 1 day left on the Business Extra redemption sale!


Originally Posted by SkyTeam777 (Post 33757160)
are these one-segment upgrades on any fare? any domestic route? Hawaii route?


Originally Posted by Antarius (Post 33757167)
Some fare classes are excluded like B,N,Q,S (going off memory here).

Antarius was very close (impressive going off memory). The one-segment upgrades exclude B, N, O, Q or S fares.

-FlyerBeek

safari ari Nov 29, 2021 12:39 pm


Originally Posted by TravelerMSY (Post 33759082)
Are these BXP1 upgrades useful to a Plat Pro?


Originally Posted by Antarius (Post 33759638)
There are plenty of PPro and EXPs that don't frequently buy J. For them, it's as good as a SWU on a domestic flight and avoids the upgrade lottery

Plus, if you have a companion, you can upgrade them prior to the windows/on different itineraries and saves you from 500 mile certs at 40$ each.

chicagoflyer1976 Nov 29, 2021 7:05 pm


Originally Posted by SJC AA (Post 33754298)
I'm trying to book awards online at business.aa.com but I can't actually enter the dates; the fields are not responsive. I've tried both Chrome and Safari. Does anyone know a way around this, or is the website just completely broken?

Same here, can't get any reservations to pull up. Says "no records found".

GrumpyYoungMan Nov 29, 2021 7:20 pm


Originally Posted by chicagoflyer1976 (Post 33769823)
Same here, can't get any reservations to pull up. Says "no records found".

Had this problem yesterday - gave them a call, got it done.

River in Sight Nov 29, 2021 9:01 pm

I had over 4500 points expiring end of year so ended up redeeming for 1 BXP7 I gave to a friend, and 9 BXP1s, plus I already had 2 I didn't end up using, so now I have 11 to use over the next year. If only I could find some availability... anyway, the sale saved me around 1,350 points so I basically got 2 BXP1s for free. Can't complain about that, again as long as I can find some availability one of these days...

jcain Nov 30, 2021 2:18 pm

Trying to use a BXP1 upgrade to go J>F on a JFK-LAX flight – was told I can't use the cert on this booking since it's through Amex travel and it's a special "leisure" fare. The J fare was indeed cheaper than aa.com at the time of booking. Anyone else have this experience?

swag Nov 30, 2021 3:16 pm

Non-transferable, but can the one day club passes be used for a companion?

If I redeem for two of these to myself, can I use them to get myself and a companion into the club, or would I have to issue the pass directly to them at the time I redeem?

Amil Nov 30, 2021 3:46 pm


Originally Posted by jcain (Post 33772087)
Trying to use a BXP1 upgrade to go J>F on a JFK-LAX flight – was told I can't use the cert on this booking since it's through Amex travel and it's a special "leisure" fare. The J fare was indeed cheaper than aa.com at the time of booking. Anyone else have this experience?

Whats your booking code?

I highly doubt youre in a B,N,Q,O or S fare code. I would HUCA or talk to a supervisor if it youre not. have you tried applying it online?

Carolina2Cali Nov 30, 2021 4:10 pm


Originally Posted by jcain (Post 33772087)
Trying to use a BXP1 upgrade to go J>F on a JFK-LAX flight – was told I can't use the cert on this booking since it's through Amex travel and it's a special "leisure" fare. The J fare was indeed cheaper than aa.com at the time of booking. Anyone else have this experience?

No experience but I do have a question, what is the actual fare letter, still actual J? I didn't know they could have a J-lite.

donotblink Nov 30, 2021 6:56 pm


Originally Posted by jcain (Post 33772087)
Trying to use a BXP1 upgrade to go J>F on a JFK-LAX flight – was told I can't use the cert on this booking since it's through Amex travel and it's a special "leisure" fare. The J fare was indeed cheaper than aa.com at the time of booking. Anyone else have this experience?

I’ve used BXP1s on F80O fares before

diaspora04 Dec 1, 2021 9:22 am


Originally Posted by jcain (Post 33772087)
Trying to use a BXP1 upgrade to go J>F on a JFK-LAX flight – was told I can't use the cert on this booking since it's through Amex travel and it's a special "leisure" fare. The J fare was indeed cheaper than aa.com at the time of booking. Anyone else have this experience?

One can indeed use BXP1 to upgrade from J to F on 321T transcons? Even discounted J?
I am amazed and a little disappointed to learn this so late in life.

Diaspora04

fastflyer Dec 1, 2021 10:14 am


Originally Posted by River in Sight (Post 33770066)
I had over 4500 points expiring end of year so ended up redeeming for 1 BXP7 I gave to a friend, and 9 BXP1s, plus I already had 2 I didn't end up using, so now I have 11 to use over the next year. If only I could find some availability... anyway, the sale saved me around 1,350 points so I basically got 2 BXP1s for free. Can't complain about that, again as long as I can find some availability one of these days...

Where are you flying ? I find C availability all the time. Including on hard-to-upgrade Florida-DCA flights. These BXP1s can be applied up to 330 days in advance BTW, no need to wait until the traditional upgrade window (by which time the inventory is often used up). I think they are one of the best parts of the whole Business Extraa program.

platbrownguy Dec 1, 2021 12:02 pm


Originally Posted by diaspora04 (Post 33774304)
One can indeed use BXP1 to upgrade from J to F on 321T transcons? Even discounted J?
I am amazed and a little disappointed to learn this so late in life.

Diaspora04

LOL yes. BXP1 on an Amex-discounted "I" business fare (as low as the $500s one-way pre-covid), to get into F with FFD on both ends, is one of the best deals (and best ways to fly cross-country) around. Of course, "A" availability was plentiful back then because it was lumped with revenue A, but even now it's not impossible to find a decent I fare on a flight with A availability.

jcain Dec 1, 2021 7:22 pm


Originally Posted by Amil (Post 33772335)
Whats your booking code?

I highly doubt youre in a B,N,Q,O or S fare code. I would HUCA or talk to a supervisor if it youre not. have you tried applying it online?


Originally Posted by Carolina2Cali (Post 33772387)
No experience but I do have a question, what is the actual fare letter, still actual J? I didn't know they could have a J-lite.

Checked aa.com and I'm in booking code R. Was just using "J" as a placeholder since I wasn't sure of the actual code. I tried applying the cert using business.aa.com but that site says it can't find my PNR.


Originally Posted by donotblink (Post 33772756)
I’ve used BXP1s on F80O fares before

Thanks, good to know – seems like it's a HUCA situation. From some of the other posts in this thread it seems like BXP1s often don't clear automatically, so I'll probably just wait for A space to show up and call in then.

FlyerBeek Dec 2, 2021 3:45 am


Originally Posted by donotblink (Post 33772756)
I’ve used BXP1s on F80O fares before


Originally Posted by jcain (Post 33775861)
Thanks, good to know – seems like it's a HUCA situation. From some of the other posts in this thread it seems like BXP1s often don't clear automatically, so I'll probably just wait for A space to show up and call in then.

Likewise, I've also had no issues upgrading F80Os with BXP1s. I've probably used a quarter of my BXP1s to upgrade these fares, most recently in mid-2021. Not sure if this is a new change or simply a misinformed rep.

-FlyerBeek

River in Sight Dec 2, 2021 6:06 pm


Originally Posted by fastflyer (Post 33774476)
Where are you flying ? I find C availability all the time. Including on hard-to-upgrade Florida-DCA flights. These BXP1s can be applied up to 330 days in advance BTW, no need to wait until the traditional upgrade window (by which time the inventory is often used up). I think they are one of the best parts of the whole Business Extraa program.

My most frequent routes are DCA-LAX (which I typically find is sold out in first well in advance and you can forget about upgrades by any means - I just try to buy I fares ~3-6 months out), DCA-MIA (which is my ideal for using the BXP1s but lately I have not been finding any availability and I find the I fares are often equivalent to DCA-LAX, which is crazy to me), and DCA-LGA and BOS. I was recently able to use two to MCO, but otherwise I seem to have a hard time finding space. I do have an JFK-SFO purchased in I for next summer where I will probably try to use these to get into A class.

shihyin Dec 4, 2021 7:41 am

Some points are about to expire year end. Does the trick of redemption then cancel to reset the expiration without any fee still work?

AAExecPlatFlier Dec 4, 2021 9:19 am

Yes. [

=shihyin;33783048]Some points are about to expire year end. Does the trick of redemption then cancel to reset the expiration without any fee still work?[/QUOTE]

shihyin Dec 5, 2021 5:33 am


Originally Posted by AAExecPlatFlier (Post 33783302)
Yes. [

=shihyin;33783048]Some points are about to expire year end. Does the trick of redemption then cancel to reset the expiration without any fee still work?

[/QUOTE]

Thank you and happy to provide a data point that this strategy remains successful as of Dec 5, 2021.

onfo Dec 8, 2021 12:46 pm


Originally Posted by donotblink (Post 33686312)
order a redemption and refund it!

Thank you and happy to provide a data point that this strategy remains successful as of Dec 5, 2021.[/QUOTE]

Confirmed works as of 12/6/21 and pushes expiration to 12/31/2023

fmkgb Dec 9, 2021 9:11 am


Originally Posted by onfo (Post 33796110)
Thank you and happy to provide a data point that this strategy remains successful as of Dec 5, 2021.

Confirmed works as of 12/6/21 and pushes expiration to 12/31/2023[/QUOTE]

I also confirm redeposit worked this morning 12/9/21. New expiration date 12/31/23. No reinstatement fee.
I was told by a BE rep that if I waited to reinstate until January new expiration would be 12/31/24 but I didn't want to take a chance that they would change reinstatement waiver in the next month. I'm very happy. Wish IHG would make it this easy to extend my two expiring IHG free night certificates.

SkyTeam777 Dec 9, 2021 12:55 pm

Is it a manual reinstatement or can you do it online without calling?

LovePrunes Dec 9, 2021 1:48 pm


Originally Posted by SkyTeam777 (Post 33799086)
Is it a manual reinstatement or can you do it online without calling?

online, it just asks for info to be entered associated with the awards you claimed, that you're now redepositing
you don't have to speak to a human

fmkgb Dec 9, 2021 2:48 pm


Originally Posted by SkyTeam777 (Post 33799086)
Is it a manual reinstatement or can you do it online without calling?


https://www.businessextra.com/reinstateAwards.htm

NickP 1K Dec 9, 2021 8:19 pm

Anyone done a BXP8 / 1 Year Admirals Club Membership

Put one in 11/24 and it's still pending/processing. Used to see these taking a week - anyone have recent info on awards that are not simple ones that are instant on what timelines are these days?

platbrownguy Dec 10, 2021 3:19 am


Originally Posted by NickP 1K (Post 33799978)
Anyone done a BXP8 / 1 Year Admirals Club Membership

Put one in 11/24 and it's still pending/processing. Used to see these taking a week - anyone have recent info on awards that are not simple ones that are instant on what timelines are these days?

yeah, that's how I do my membership -- looks like it took 3 days from the "award confirmation" email to the "your award is on its way email" a couple months ago

PHLFlyerDL Dec 10, 2021 6:41 am

Yes--- just redeem and than go to the RETURN option and they are placed back into your account with another year.

Raralith Dec 11, 2021 2:54 pm

I joined Business Extra a few weeks ago, was trying to add my flights history today, but all of them gave me the "Ticket Number entered is not valid for Business Extra Credit" error. I pulled the travel information (ticket number, departure date, etc...) straight from my AA.com activity's page. Flights were in June, July, August, 2x November using AA through the AA.com website, mix of economy and business class. Is calling their CS the best way to get this fixed?

platbrownguy Dec 11, 2021 3:29 pm


Originally Posted by Raralith (Post 33804357)
I joined Business Extra a few weeks ago, was trying to add my flights history today, but all of them gave me the "Ticket Number entered is not valid for Business Extra Credit" error. I pulled the travel information (ticket number, departure date, etc...) straight from my AA.com activity's page. Flights were in June, July, August, 2x November using AA through the AA.com website, mix of economy and business class. Is calling their CS the best way to get this fixed?

There's nothing to fix: "flights taken prior to enrollment in the Business Extra program are not eligible for flight credit" (https://www.businessextra.com/earn/r...ght-credit.htm)

Raralith Dec 11, 2021 3:59 pm


Originally Posted by platbrownguy (Post 33804411)
There's nothing to fix: "flights taken prior to enrollment in the Business Extra program are not eligible for flight credit" (https://www.businessextra.com/earn/r...ght-credit.htm)

Gotcha, but one of them is post enrollment and I'm getting the same code so at the very least that should work? I got the "Welcome to Business Extra" email on 11/08, flew from LAX to PHL on 11/29, same error.

platbrownguy Dec 11, 2021 4:16 pm


Originally Posted by Raralith (Post 33804475)
Gotcha, but one of them is post enrollment and I'm getting the same code so at the very least that should work? I got the "Welcome to Business Extra" email on 11/08, flew from LAX to PHL on 11/29, same error.

Try submitting just that one without the others... and yeah, call if that doesn't work. As long as no one else has claimed the credit already (this happened to me once!) you should be able to get the points...

fmkgb Dec 11, 2021 5:16 pm


Originally Posted by platbrownguy (Post 33804493)
Try submitting just that one without the others... and yeah, call if that doesn't work. As long as no one else has claimed the credit already (this happened to me once!) you should be able to get the points...

if you call and you have the ticket # a rep may be able to enter points manually while you're on the phone. otherwise they send it to tech for research and takes much longer.


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