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FAQ: What's a Systemwide Upgrade / SWU / eVIP / VIP? (Master thread)
FAQ: What's a Systemwide Upgrade / SWU / eVIP / VIP? (Master thread)
ARCHIVE: SWU / VIP / eVIP Systemwide Upgrade questions
#1591
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Thousand Oaks, Ca., USA
Programs: AA Lifetime Plat; Bonvoy Titanium Lifetime Elite;Hyatt Globalist; HHonors Diamond; United Silver
Posts: 8,319
The best use of an SWU is on a flight where it will clear - thus I would approach this in a different fashion: What can be booked now that will clear? A quick review of EF shows that in mid Sept. there's ample onfirmable upgrade space on DFW-LHR, and in late Sept. lots on LHR-ORD. There's also some space on JFK-BCN right now, c. 9/13.
Agree. My comments assumed availability, but I would always go with what clears right away. If you do the BA route on the way back (to connect in LHR), try and get on the one 763 that runs LAX-ORD. Both DFW-LAX and ORD-LAX are too far for a single aisle plane given you are starting in Italy.
#1592
Join Date: Apr 2010
Programs: AA EXP, HH Diamond, MR Gold, SPG Gold, Hertz PC
Posts: 202
As a bdemaria noted, the best SWU is the one that clears at booking, or is most likely to clear. Expert Flyer is a real help there. For me, I don't mind flying through LHR and connecting, maybe with a day or two in London. Why not see if there are upgrades on one of the 773 routes into LHR?
#1593
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 2,652
I'm by no means an expert, but I flew Vueling BCN-FCO and thought it was fantastic. You can pay for an exit row in advance or to guarantee no one is sitting next to you up front.
Too bad it's your anniversary trip because the FAs are model quality :-)
Too bad it's your anniversary trip because the FAs are model quality :-)
#1594
Join Date: May 2009
Location: SEA
Programs: AA EXP (2.5MM), Hilton Gold, Marriott Titanium
Posts: 4,859
So to be clear - you can't trade with people you dont know but you could trade with a friend? I don't really understand the rules. Is there a place to make new EXP friends who might want to give me an upgrade if I give them one? This all seems a little silly. I'm not looking to sell them and that seems to be the primary thing AA is trying to prevent.
But, trading on Coupon Connection is an option that appears to be workable. You just have to have enough posts. Also, realize that, at best, you'd probably be trading 2 for 1 in terms of Feb '13 expiration SWU vs Feb '14 expiration SWUs. If you're lucky you could trade your 4 Feb '13 expiring SWUs for 2 expiring Feb '14, if anyone can use them and would take that trade. Regardless, you can't access Coupon Connection with your limited history so you're basically outta luck for trades there. Your only real option is to find someone you know who would be willing to risk things and 'trade' you for SWUs. Otherwise yours will just expire unused.
There are other avenues for sale or trade of SWUs, but those are apparently well supervised by AA so I wouldn't recommend them and won't even tell you what they are.
Sadly, you may be outta Luck this year. Stick around, post more, and maybe in the future you can get on CC and learn more about options.
#1595
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Programs: SPG PLT, AA ExPlt
Posts: 90
Wow there is a ton of info here I need to sift through.
Other than the 77W, is the 763 TransAtl really that bad? Is it even worth it on a 757 I personally prefer any 777 but looks like there are no real options on AA metal to Spain or Italy.
While I love LHR, I feel that its just extra time spent at the airport that I wouldn't need?
Other than the 77W, is the 763 TransAtl really that bad? Is it even worth it on a 757 I personally prefer any 777 but looks like there are no real options on AA metal to Spain or Italy.
While I love LHR, I feel that its just extra time spent at the airport that I wouldn't need?
#1596
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Programs: SPG PLT, AA ExPlt
Posts: 90
Good Karma?
I've seen plenty of posters give them away for a good cause here. Could be a good way to get some good karma?
#1597
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 2,342
Wow there is a ton of info here I need to sift through.
Other than the 77W, is the 763 TransAtl really that bad? Is it even worth it on a 757 I personally prefer any 777 but looks like there are no real options on AA metal to Spain or Italy.
While I love LHR, I feel that its just extra time spent at the airport that I wouldn't need?
Other than the 77W, is the 763 TransAtl really that bad? Is it even worth it on a 757 I personally prefer any 777 but looks like there are no real options on AA metal to Spain or Italy.
While I love LHR, I feel that its just extra time spent at the airport that I wouldn't need?
Sometimes I feel like FT is the epitome of first world problems. For me, J on the 75L would be my last choice compared to the 763 and 772, but it wouldn't be a deal breaker. I've heard the service can be quite good and personalized in the 16 seat J cabin.
#1598
Join Date: Feb 2008
Programs: AA EXP
Posts: 3,049
The 75L J seat is identical to the 772 seat with just the omission of the little storage bays that normal fit in between the seats for shoes etc. The IFE has a larger screen than the 772 but a smaller choice of movies etc.
In my opinion, 763 J really isn't that bad, especially if you're traveling solo. You can get an aisle seat with no one else trying to climb over you. The J cabin is smaller and feels more personal. If you're upgrading with SWU/miles+copay and can't clear in advance, you won't get stuck with a middle seat on the 763.
I would always favor 772 and 75L over 763 unless you can be sure you can get a center section seat on the 763.
#1599
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: SJC/VCE
Programs: AA PLT (2.9+ MM), HH GLD, Hyatt Diamond, SPG PLT
Posts: 10,161
I understand not wanting to sit at the lounge LHR for a couple of hours, but I'd take that over 12+ hours in coach anyday.
#1600
Moderator: American AAdvantage
Join Date: May 2000
Location: NorCal - SMF area
Programs: AA LT Plat; HH LT Diamond, Maître-plongeur des Muccis
Posts: 62,948
I suggest you look for the threads on these aircraft to read what has been extensively posted already rather than explore aircraft configurations, etc. here. (You may find some of us actually prefer the 757 for transatlantic voyages - same angled lie-flat seats as the 763 and 777, and unlike the 777 no middle seats, etc.)
Now that this has had a chance to attract some attention and discussion, it will be merged into the current, active thread on SWUs, as there is a lot of information that is being brought up again in this new thread - be sure to read the first post. These consolidated threads contain a lot of information and are linked to in the sticky FAQ and Wiki. (The idea is a large number of participating members have taken the time to post information and we should not overlook or dishonor that.)
/Moderator
Now that this has had a chance to attract some attention and discussion, it will be merged into the current, active thread on SWUs, as there is a lot of information that is being brought up again in this new thread - be sure to read the first post. These consolidated threads contain a lot of information and are linked to in the sticky FAQ and Wiki. (The idea is a large number of participating members have taken the time to post information and we should not overlook or dishonor that.)
/Moderator
Wow there is a ton of info here I need to sift through.
Other than the 77W, is the 763 TransAtl really that bad? Is it even worth it on a 757 I personally prefer any 777 but looks like there are no real options on AA metal to Spain or Italy.
While I love LHR, I feel that its just extra time spent at the airport that I wouldn't need?
Other than the 77W, is the 763 TransAtl really that bad? Is it even worth it on a 757 I personally prefer any 777 but looks like there are no real options on AA metal to Spain or Italy.
While I love LHR, I feel that its just extra time spent at the airport that I wouldn't need?
#1601
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 73
I'm at T-24 hours to departure, and my SWU waitlist has not cleared.
What is the best strategy? Online check in now for my Y seat? Get to the airport as early as possible? Both? Something else?
What dictates SWU waitlist priority once a flight goes to airport control?
(I searched old posts, but it sounds like the priorities have changed?)
What is the best strategy? Online check in now for my Y seat? Get to the airport as early as possible? Both? Something else?
What dictates SWU waitlist priority once a flight goes to airport control?
(I searched old posts, but it sounds like the priorities have changed?)
#1602
In Memoriam, FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Benicia CA
Programs: Alaska MVP Gold 75K, AA 3.8MM, UA 1.1MM, enjoying the retired life
Posts: 31,849
And when you do get there, bear in mind that there is a master list of members that have been banned for broker-like behavior or not completing trades. There are no guarantees that everything will go smoothly.
#1603
Moderator: American AAdvantage
Join Date: May 2000
Location: NorCal - SMF area
Programs: AA LT Plat; HH LT Diamond, Maître-plongeur des Muccis
Posts: 62,948
Well supervised is right; American Airlines' Corporate Security's AAdvantage Fraud unit is quite active - they even keep their eyes on FlyerTalk. eBay and Craig's List? I think some of them probably keep bedrolls there...
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There are other avenues for sale or trade of SWUs, but those are apparently well supervised by AA so I wouldn't recommend them and won't even tell you what they are.
Sadly, you may be outta Luck this year. Stick around, post more, and maybe in the future you can get on CC and learn more about options.
There are other avenues for sale or trade of SWUs, but those are apparently well supervised by AA so I wouldn't recommend them and won't even tell you what they are.
Sadly, you may be outta Luck this year. Stick around, post more, and maybe in the future you can get on CC and learn more about options.
#1604
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2001
Location: LAX; AA EXP, MM; HH Gold
Posts: 31,789
I'm at T-24 hours to departure, and my SWU waitlist has not cleared.
What is the best strategy? Online check in now for my Y seat? Get to the airport as early as possible? Both? Something else?
What dictates SWU waitlist priority once a flight goes to airport control?
(I searched old posts, but it sounds like the priorities have changed?)
What is the best strategy? Online check in now for my Y seat? Get to the airport as early as possible? Both? Something else?
What dictates SWU waitlist priority once a flight goes to airport control?
(I searched old posts, but it sounds like the priorities have changed?)
#1605
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Programs: SPG PLT, AA ExPlt
Posts: 90
I suggest you look for the threads on these aircraft to read what has been extensively posted already rather than explore aircraft configurations, etc. here. (You may find some of us actually prefer the 757 for transatlantic voyages - same angled lie-flat seats as the 763 and 777, and unlike the 777 no middle seats, etc.)
Now that this has had a chance to attract some attention and discussion, it will be merged into the current, active thread on SWUs, as there is a lot of information that is being brought up again in this new thread - be sure to read the first post. These consolidated threads contain a lot of information and are linked to in the sticky FAQ and Wiki. (The idea is a large number of participating members have taken the time to post information and we should not overlook or dishonor that.)
/Moderator
Now that this has had a chance to attract some attention and discussion, it will be merged into the current, active thread on SWUs, as there is a lot of information that is being brought up again in this new thread - be sure to read the first post. These consolidated threads contain a lot of information and are linked to in the sticky FAQ and Wiki. (The idea is a large number of participating members have taken the time to post information and we should not overlook or dishonor that.)
/Moderator
One of the issues I have with the search is that it generally require specific keywords to get to a relevant topic, and sometimes those keywords require knowledge of certain terminology that isn't obvious to a relative newbie to the game.
Any links or suggestions for keywords that I can search for the comparison/discussion of specific airplane configs would be appreciated.