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LutherVP Oct 16, 2025 3:21 pm


Originally Posted by FlyFreakquently (Post 37376256)
10/10/25:

10/14/25:

PHL-SFO AA2184: 5/33 on the list for 0 seats. Thanks, Dreamforce 2025.

SFO-ORD this morning, post-Dreamforce, I was number 34 for 0 seats with ~300K rolling LP



lowkeyflyer Oct 16, 2025 4:00 pm

Flying with my mom (no status)
I booked 2 separate PNR then linked the upgrades

What happens in practice if she and I both get upgraded, but then I have to cancel my ticket?

monvoyage Oct 16, 2025 10:31 pm

Somehow I was able to snag SWU on my upcoming DFW-LHR well over two months in advance...for a Saturday night flight.
I was hoping for the return flight, too, but J has been filling and filling lately, with only one seat left two weeks out...probably with people taking those wretched offers....I haven't seen one, though, and I check my reservations a lot.
But I'd rather have the upgrade going over and when I need to sleep, so that's good.

I have a very cranky feeling about the value of SWUs going forward and am contemplating choosing other "rewards" next time.

WalruSara Oct 17, 2025 12:06 am

10/15 - DFW-FCO - 1 on the list / 0 seats.

Offered Y to P right before boarding. Took it and enjoyed middle seat of bulkhead row.

I don’t think I’ll have as much luck on return. Flight is looking very full.

Amazing how AA is selling out every single EU flight I’ve been on this year while UA has empty rows.

travelingdrsuz Oct 17, 2025 12:17 am


Originally Posted by monvoyage (Post 37376904)
Somehow I was able to snag SWU on my upcoming DFW-LHR well over two months in advance...for a Saturday night flight.
I was hoping for the return flight, too, but J has been filling and filling lately, with only one seat left two weeks out...probably with people taking those wretched offers....I haven't seen one, though, and I check my reservations a lot.
But I'd rather have the upgrade going over and when I need to sleep, so that's good.

I have a very cranky feeling about the value of SWUs going forward and am contemplating choosing other "rewards" next time.

I have cleared for November (week before Thanksgiving) and end of the first week of January on ORD-LHR-ORD. I pounced on both days when the SWU inventory was opened, but I found it simply by checking the app daily when I had an idea of when I wanted to travel. For routes to places like LHR, the inventory is there. I looked at some other dates in late summer when I thought I had to return straightaway due to a medical issue (it was fine after all), and found inventory about 2-3 weeks out from DFW-LHR. It would have been a $600 fare RT if I bought BE, and SWU available. That would have really been a deal (but I am relieved I got to wait).



Originally Posted by WalruSara (Post 37376961)
10/15 - DFW-FCO - 1 on the list / 0 seats.

Offered Y to P right before boarding. Took it and enjoyed middle seat of bulkhead row.

I don’t think I’ll have as much luck on return. Flight is looking very full.

Amazing how AA is selling out every single EU flight I’ve been on this year while UA has empty rows.

I usually start my searches on Google Flights which never seems to remember I hist ONE WORLD for the search I just finished. On my routes, at least, UA is always quite a bit more expensive, and often for less than I get on AA. I know people will laud UA and trash AA on FT, but at the end of the day, I get more value. Whether a decent J deal, a great upgrade offer, or SWUs clearing, I am unsurprised they fly with few seats unfilled.

LutherVP Oct 17, 2025 4:23 am


Originally Posted by LutherVP (Post 37376435)
SFO-ORD this morning, post-Dreamforce, I was number 34 for 0 seats with ~300K rolling LP

And then cleared on the return at 48+ hours out.

JJeffrey Oct 17, 2025 6:10 am


Originally Posted by monvoyage (Post 37376904)
Somehow I was able to snag SWU on my upcoming DFW-LHR well over two months in advance...for a Saturday night flight.
I was hoping for the return flight, too, but J has been filling and filling lately, with only one seat left two weeks out...probably with people taking those wretched offers....I haven't seen one, though, and I check my reservations a lot.

The reason you're not seeing any upgrade offers for the return is because you've applied a SWU to the outbound. As soon as you apply (or waitlist) for a SWU on any segment on a reservation the upgrade offers go away completely for all segments.

This is a particularly awful AA IT bug with its upgrade system, and is especially penalizing to those of us that use SWUs.

JJeffrey Oct 17, 2025 6:15 am


Originally Posted by lowkeyflyer (Post 37376489)
Flying with my mom (no status)
I booked 2 separate PNR then linked the upgrades

What happens in practice if she and I both get upgraded, but then I have to cancel my ticket?

IME on separate PNR's if she is upgraded based off your status then she will not be able to check-in until you do.

No idea what would happen if you both were to check in, but you cancel your flight at the very last minute. Best case she flies in her upgraded F seat. Worst case they realize it and send her back to whatever middle seat is left in row 40, if any.

dandarc Oct 17, 2025 7:23 am


Originally Posted by dandarc (Post 37361378)
T-26 upgrade confirmed for CLT -> DTW tomorrow.

EP with ~388k rolling LP

Woke up this morning to find I'm #2 for 3 seats for return trip tonight. Still 10 hours away, but looking ok right now. Also 82 empty seats on the plane according to the standby list, so great shot at nobody in the middle seat, decent shot at whole exit row just for me.

monvoyage Oct 17, 2025 10:43 am


Originally Posted by JJeffrey (Post 37377353)
The reason you're not seeing any upgrade offers for the return is because you've applied a SWU to the outbound. As soon as you apply (or waitlist) for a SWU on any segment on a reservation the upgrade offers go away completely for all segments.

This is a particularly awful AA IT bug with its upgrade system, and is especially penalizing to those of us that use SWUs.

Well, that really sucks!! The return is twelve days from now and there are three seats. Would you drop the SWU request and then add it back closer to the flight date?

nanaflyer Oct 20, 2025 6:01 pm

AA142 JFK-LHR on Oct 11 had 1 clear into J at the gate (out of 1 - a 100% clearance rate!)
AA167 JFK-HND had 6 people on the upgrade list when i caught a peak at the gate next door! (I did not see how many clear)
AA725 on 10/19 had 5 clear into J (7 total on the list so the last two missed out..)

thedeeg Oct 20, 2025 6:17 pm

Cleared DUB-CLT on Sunday at the gate. I assume there was a delayed inbound, as 6 of 8 cleared at the gate.

i felt a little for the 2 who didn’t clear; as they were number 1 and 2 until 3 hours before the flight, so assume the rest were all desk check ins like me.

Whilst in the air, cleared today’s flight at 25 hours.

I have a couple more SWU’s pending for LIS-PHL at the end of Jan, but assume that will go to the gate as well. The PHL-LIS was available at booking.

thedeeg Oct 20, 2025 6:19 pm


Originally Posted by nanaflyer (Post 37382804)
AA142 JFK-LHR on Oct 11 had 1 clear into J at the gate (out of 1 - a 100% clearance rate!)
AA167 JFK-HND had 6 people on the upgrade list when i caught a peak at the gate next door! (I did not see how many clear)
AA725 on 10/19 had 5 clear into J (7 total on the list so the last two missed out..)

Just realized I missed the last part of your post.

I thought it was 8 on the list. They must have had their hopes up with everyone else clearing.

nanaflyer Oct 21, 2025 5:21 am


Originally Posted by thedeeg (Post 37382828)
Just realized I missed the last part of your post.

I thought it was 8 on the list. They must have had their hopes up with everyone else clearing.

I didnt realize a fellow flyertalker was on the flight! My parents were #4 & 5 and were the last two to clear at the gate. I was checking expertflyer and thought there was no hope left after seeing only 3 seats empty on the seat map (I did not realize #1 and # 2 cleared already and took the first 2...

It does seem the change in being unable to use miles + copay has improved upgrade chances in my experience. My family and I have been 4/5 clearing this year so far (with the 1 not clearing being a cancelled flight to tokyo from jfk...) on intl long haul flights

thedeeg Oct 22, 2025 9:26 am


Originally Posted by nanaflyer (Post 37383448)
I didnt realize a fellow flyertalker was on the flight! My parents were #4 & 5 and were the last two to clear at the gate. I was checking expertflyer and thought there was no hope left after seeing only 3 seats empty on the seat map (I did not realize #1 and # 2 cleared already and took the first 2...

It does seem the change in being unable to use miles + copay has improved upgrade chances in my experience. My family and I have been 4/5 clearing this year so far (with the 1 not clearing being a cancelled flight to tokyo from jfk...) on intl long haul flights

Small world.

I do wish you could list your SWU, then also see the buy up offer.

At some points, I would be happy to pay the buy up, depending on how much it is. But as soon as the SWU is listed, that disappears.


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