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EXP100 Sep 21, 2023 8:32 am

Last night, Wednesday< CLT/MIA last flight of the night (too late for SA connections). Number five on a rolling off the board list (EXP around YTD 250K LP). Think one person cleared. I'm finding more and more it's just easier to take the decent Upgrade offers (usually $200 or less) and be done with it.

Rhomboid Sep 21, 2023 11:21 am


Originally Posted by ChurnieEls (Post 35599255)
Unpublished benefit of EXP.

Do you need to have a SWU that was not cleared, to be eligible to upgrade to PE for TATL flights?

ridepow Sep 21, 2023 11:28 am

Fingers crossed for LAX-SYD Oct 1 SWU upgrade. Looks like a decent amount of availability?

fastflyer Sep 21, 2023 11:47 am


Originally Posted by ikwia (Post 35597973)
Really? When did this start?

It's a "feature" of the app. Possibly a "shhhh" situation. But once confirmed in R, it will look for R space on other routings, which seems to pull from J in IRROPs.

IADCAflyer Sep 21, 2023 11:52 am

9/21: DTW-PHL: Paid F but 16 on the upgrade list. 0 cleared.

JJeffrey Sep 21, 2023 12:06 pm


Originally Posted by Rhomboid (Post 35600798)
Do you need to have a SWU that was not cleared, to be eligible to upgrade to PE for TATL flights?

Generally speaking yes. If you're waitlisted for a SWU and it doesn't clear, then you're supposed to get a comp upgrade to PE if available. This typically happens at the gate.

Here is the relevant thread with lots of discussion:

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/amer...ispreloading=1

enviroian Sep 21, 2023 12:28 pm


Originally Posted by ridepow (Post 35600814)
Fingers crossed for LAX-SYD Oct 1 SWU upgrade. Looks like a decent amount of availability?

For availability C7, for SWU availability C0

bse118 Sep 21, 2023 9:22 pm

HND-DFW, 788, Saturday, 745pm: Y-->J SWU cleared off the waitlist at 36 hours prior to departure
(flight is tomorrow, so not flown yet, but this is the third HND to US SWU I've cleared this year :tu:)

No clue what my rolling LPs are, not worth the effort to track that, but probably around 250K?

happiest_at_40000 Sep 22, 2023 1:48 am

So I have a pretty great offer to buy up to F and wanted to run it by you all to see what you think I feel like its a no brainer. Tbh if it was just me travelling I would have already bought it but I have a +1 joining so double the cost but still considering it.

I got a buy up from MC to F for $242 more on MIA-LAX and its on the 7pm departure which is the 772 so FL access not to mention the two best words in flying- LIE FLATS...

However with 22 open seats still (although it is 3 weeks out) I was thinking of maybe waiting. The MC cost I paid was $139 so essentially for $381 I would be getting the 772 for a FL route. Seems really good. If it was F on the 77W with FFD now that would be insane good but I still think its a solid deal.

Curious if you all would just take it or hold out? My chances on that plane with 22 open obviously are better than on the A321 flights on the same day where the max open on any flight is 13.

robertablake Sep 22, 2023 5:05 am


Originally Posted by bse118 (Post 35602150)
HND-DFW, 788, Saturday, 745pm: Y-->J SWU cleared off the waitlist at 36 hours prior to departure
(flight is tomorrow, so not flown yet, but this is the third HND to US SWU I've cleared this year :tu:)

No clue what my rolling LPs are, not worth the effort to track that, but probably around 250K?

All miy DFW-HND and HND-DFW have cleared this year at about the same timing as yours.

Have another DFW-HND flight on Monday with my wife. EF is showing 13 out of 20 J seats are stil unoccupied. While I am confident our upgrades will eventually clear, it befuddles me with so many empty seats in J as to why doesn't AA release some C class now with just a few days left before the flight.

chicagoflyer1976 Sep 22, 2023 9:18 am

9/14: ORD/LHR SWU did not clear, EXP with maybe 300k LP, were number 3 and 4 on the list of about 10 people, no one cleared
flight was sold out in J weeks before
occasionally J1 or J2 in the days before
Also, the seat map showed about 10 open seats until the day before so confirms what we all know that seat maps mean nothing. I was hoping W was oversold which might mean there would be a few J seats for upgrades, but was not the case.
I also learned that in-ap upgrade offers do not come to you if you have a SWU requested. I think in the future, I skip requesting a SWU, watch for C space, and keep an eye on the in-ap upgrade offers. Have heard some of these from W-->J have been as low as $350. I'd take that anyday.

ikwia Sep 22, 2023 9:19 am


Originally Posted by fastflyer (Post 35600866)
It's a "feature" of the app. Possibly a "shhhh" situation. But once confirmed in R, it will look for R space on other routings, which seems to pull from J in IRROPs.

Now that you mention it, I did recently see this on the app. I'm not sure if it is intentional or not. Pre-COVID, they wouldn't preserve upgrades, even for CK (in my experience).

PowerLu Sep 22, 2023 10:58 am


Originally Posted by EXP100 (Post 35600292)
Last night, Wednesday< CLT/MIA last flight of the night (too late for SA connections). Number five on a rolling off the board list (EXP around YTD 250K LP). Think one person cleared. I'm finding more and more it's just easier to take the decent Upgrade offers (usually $200 or less) and be done with it.

Seriously disappointing that at 250k LP this is where things are.

zip10001 Sep 23, 2023 6:44 am


Originally Posted by chicagoflyer1976 (Post 35603333)
I also learned that in-ap upgrade offers do not come to you if you have a SWU requested. I think in the future, I skip requesting a SWU, watch for C space, and keep an eye on the in-ap upgrade offers. Have heard some of these from W-->J have been as low as $350. I'd take that anyday.

Good to know, thanks for sharing.

mattchench Sep 23, 2023 10:25 am

I have a LAX-LHR basic economy ticket. I have AA Platinum Pro. I requested miles upgrade a while ago and waitlisted. Now is between 24-48 departure time and I just found I am able to change/select the seat of business class and I did select a seat.

At this moment, is this seat confirmed? Do I still need to pay 25,000 miles+$350 copy? Or this is the free upgrade? Thanks in advance.


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