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Welcome to the Rocketmiles/AAdvantage Hotels (ne BookAAHotels) Official Thread & Wiki!
reflecting July 2023 program changes

AAdvantage Hotels Customer Support phone # (844) 801-6778 and email is [email protected]

Posting times per the AA Hotels Platform FAQ: "Rewards typically post between 3-4 weeks after your stay is completed with the transaction date reflecting your check-in date. If booked through one of our suppliers that provide Pay Later rates (pay upon check-in), the rewards typically post within 4 6 weeks after your stay is completed."

Posting times per FT user experience: Varies greatly, and cyclically through the year, between several days to 6 weeks after checkout. Within 2 weeks after checkout is arguably "average" but YMMV greatly. Notwithstanding whatever wait you might have, the points will eventually post.

0. Why should I use RocketMiles over AAdvantage Hotels?
You shouldn't. There are no advantages to doing so unless you truly have no superior booking option. AAdvantage Hotels, now being on the same platform, is strictly better if your goal is AA LPs or AA RDM. (Note: RocketMiles, the engine for AAdvantage Hotels, is owned by Booking Holdings: https://about.rocketmiles.com/how-it-works who also owns Priceline, Agoda, Kayak, etc.)

1. Do base miles earned on AAdvantage Hotels count towards Loyalty Point earnings/status?
Yes - but any boost miles (miles purchased during checkout) only count as redeemable miles.

2. How can I maximize my AA earnings?

a. via AAHotels Customers who have AAdvantage elite status, and/or have any AA co-branded credit card earn significantly more LPs/RDMs per reservation. Customers who have either AA status OR an AA credit card will earn up to 5x more LPs/RDMs than the normal rate, while customers who have both AA status AND an AA credit card will earn up to 10x LPs/RDMs more than the normal rate (up to 15,000 LP max). The extra LP/RDM earnings for being an AA card holder apply whether or not you charge the reservation to your AA credit card. The total LPs/RDMs to be earned through AAHotels are reflected on your reservation and post to AA.com after your hotel stay, see questions 6 and 7 below.

b. via AA Loyalty Point Rewards Purchases made via AAHotels (and other "select partners") benefit from "Loyalty Point Reward" bonuses given to AAdvantage Members who reach certain LP thresholds (20% bonus for 6 months after achieving 60k LP; 30% for 6 months after achieving 100k LP). Further information on LP Reward bonuses here and on this FT thread. LP Reward bonuses do not generate additional RDMs. LP Reward bonuses will be added automatically to your total LP earnings when your hotel stay posts to AA.com, see questions 6 and 7 below.

c. via AA co-branded credit card You will also earn 1 LP and (generally) 1 RDM for every dollar charged to an AA credit card, as you would for any purchase. AA Hotels stays are not considered eligible AA purchases for purposes of increased miles earnings on AA credit cards. However, holders of the Citi AA Executive Mastercard will earn an additional 9x RDM per dollar spent on AAHotels (for a total of 10 RDM per dollar). LPs and RDMs earned by credit card spend, including the 9x bonus RDMs earned by Executive cardolders, will post to AA.com after statement closing.
2a. If I'm approved for an AA credit card, how long will it take for my "AA Cardholder" status to be updated on the Book AA Hotels website?
YMMV. Reports here have varied from 1 day to several weeks. Citi appears to be faster than Barclay's.

3. What is the max LPs for a booking?
You can earn up to 15,000 LPs max per booking. During the checkout process you will be offered an opportunity purchase additional miles (aka "boost"), but boost miles only add RDM to your earnings, not LPs.

4. What hotels earn miles?
Since July 2023, all hotels on AAdvantage Hotels earn miles. The total will be listed on the search page and you can sort results to find the highest earning hotel for your particular journey parameters.

5. Can I earn miles booking for someone else?
Since July 2023, the booking name must match the name of the AAdvantage account attached to the AAdvantage Hotel account to earn miles. This is further specified in the T&C.

6. Are points awarded based on check-in or check-out date?
Check-in date.

7. How quickly do points post?
Expect points to post approximately 2 weeks after check-out. If points have not posted within a month, contact AAdvantage Hotels customer support.

8. I'm having an issue with my booking. Who should I contact?
If it is an issue regarding the property directly, contact the hotel you've booked with. If the issue is with points or booking, contact AAdvantage Hotels/Booking.com. If a bonus earning has not been properly applied, contact AAdvantage Customer Service. If an issue requires escalation, contact Booking.com through the following channel: [email protected].

9. Will I earn hotel points or get hotel elite benefits in my hotel loyalty program if I book thru Rocketmiles/AAdvantage Hotels?
Unlikely, but occasionally people have posted they got elite benefits or a mistaken hotel credit. Since a hotel room booked thru RM/AA hotels is a 3rd party booking, most hotel stay programs exclude giving any credits or benefit for stays booked thru methods like this. Expect to earn nothing and get no benefits. Anything extra is a nice surprise. You can ask the hotel to add your hotel membership number to your reservation at some point such as before your stay or in person once you arrive, but be prepared for a firm "No."



WARNING: ALL INFORMATION FROM THIS POINT FORWARD REFLECTS THE PROGRAM AS IT EXISTED AS OF 7/13/23. THIS INFORMATION IS HERE PURELY FOR THOSE WITH EXISTING BOOKINGS. IF YOU HAVE QUERIES ABOUT THE CURRENT PROGRAM, PLEASE SCROLL UP.

This Wiki will be built out over time. To begin, we are going to cover a list of the most frequently asked questions in this thread. Over time, we expect to add to this guide with official information from Booking and/or AA, as well as guides on how to best optimise your earning on these wonderful platforms.

1a. Do the points earned on RM/BAAH count towards my annual qualification as Loyalty Points (LPs)?
Yes - the points earned for your booking, as well as the paid multiplier points, are both referred to (and post as) "base miles". This means they count towards your annual status progression.

1b. Which hotels on RM/BAAH earn Loyalty Points?
For RocketMiles, this is easy: once you have selected AA as your frequent flyer program, all hotels that show up in the search results will earn LPs.
The BookAAHotels interface is more complicated -- some hotels that show up in the search results will not earn LPs. LP-earning hotels will have a banner in the search results saying "Earn XX,XXX Base Miles"; no banner means no LPs. Also, before checking out make sure that the "Price Summary" states how many Base Miles (LPs) will be earned after your stay. If no base mile earnings are indicated, you may have
accidentally toggled over to the regular Booking.com site, where you will not earn LPs.

2. Do points post quickly after check out?
Forum Experience: For pre-paid stays, reported posting times have varied between several days after checkout and several weeks. Post-paid stays can take up to 8 weeks to post, as their posting is dependent on communication between the hotel and Booking.com/RM/BAAH.
What BAAH and RM say: For BAAH --
"3-4 weeks". For RM -- "typically within 2 weeks after your stay is completed"" or 6-8 weeks if made through Booking.com

3. For what date will the points for a hotel stay count? If I need points by Feb 28, when should I stay at a hotel?
Forum Experience: As of February 2023, RocketMiles.com appears to post stays on AA as the date of check-out. BookAAHotels, however, appears to post stays as of the date of check-in. So if one is looking to lock in miles for February to count for the qualification period, ensure that your check-out is before the 28th of February and that your stay is pre-paid. This way you are assured of your points posting, regardless of platform, and counting towards qualification before your status drops after March ends.
Per AA.com: "Purchases made with your AAdvantage credit card will count based on the date the activity posts to your AAdvantage account. All other flight and partner transactions will count based on the activity date of the flight or other transaction." (emphasis added). See Aadvantage FAQs linked
here

4. I cannot check-out on RocketMiles - help!
First of all, this isn't a question. Second of all, don't fret. There are at least two class of processing problems known on the RM platform. To solve the majority of them, follow these diagnostic pathways:

0. Clear your cache, disable ....... and JS-script blocking software, and turn off your VPN.
1. Try again with the desired credit card but dont fill out any of the optional information on the address section, only whats required.
There is a known system with how they handle this info.
1a. Do as above but use your full zip code (this means the 5 required digits and the trailing 4 digits). You can look up your full ZIP here.
2. Push it all the way to the dev team by contacting support via phone. The agent will put you on hold while they reset part of their system.
3. Use another card and keep trying the first card on subsequent purchases until it works again.

If none of the above work, your problem may be related to your account/card being blocked by Booking.com.
To alleviate this, contact [email protected]

While this may not work to correct checkout issues on both sites, you should at least now be able to use RM.

5. My stays haven't posted and it has been well past one week (for pre-paids) or eight weeks (for post-paids)!
Call the phone number for RM/BAAH and ask for a manager who can change the status on your stays to approved. Every legitimate stay should then be caught in the next cycle. You may receive duplicate emails about previous stays which already posted; sadly, you will not get double miles but this is a positive sign that your oustanding stays have been successfully processed.

6. How many cents per mile is a good rate?
Ultimately this is up to you. However, at the moment, it appears that RM/BAAH have a floor on their miles at around 2.15 cents per mile. The general consensus on FT seems to be that if you can secure a hotel at 2.5 cents per mile, you have done well.

7. Do I need to stay at a hotel to get points?
As long as it is a pre-paid stay, you will receive the points regardless of your presence at the hotel.

8. Will I have to pay the check-in resort fee if I "no show" the stay?
We only have one report of this happening; however, it is not standard practice for RTI (Booking.com) to pass pre-paid credit card details to the stays, so as-of-now the forum is skeptical of this report without further information.

9. Do I get more miles for selecting a better room?
Unfortunately not. The miles are set on a per-location basis; the only way to get more points is to pay for the multiplier/bonus points. Any more expensive rooms will simply mean you're paying more per-mile on your stay.

10. What is the best way to contact the two sites?
E-mail is always the first line of defense. If you fail to get a response within 48 hours (unless this is extremely time sensitive - then call first) then proceed to the phone line. Do note that many of the agents are extremely new or unfamiliar with certain aspects of the program, so be judicious in utilizing your two best friends: the manager and HUACA (hang up and call again).

11. Why can't I contact AA if I have issues?
They don't run the sites. Booking.com does. If you are having a REAL issue (that is, not that your miles didnt post 15 minutes after checkout, but a technical problem, etc.) a recommended point of contact is
[email protected].

12. How do I view only the hotels that award miles on BAAH?
You can't.

13. How do I sort hotels by most points awarded on BAAH?
You can't.

14. How can I see the total stay cost on BAAH on the search screen (as on RM)?
You can't.

15. So then why should I use BAAH?
You shouldn't.

OK, this is a bit of a lie. It is often the occasion that BAAH will offer a slightly higher mileage reward or a hotel that isn't present on RM. Most users will find their target hotel on RM and then do a final sanity check on BAAH to make sure they aren't ignoring a better deal. We certainly recommend this until the UI/UX experience on BAAH is improved.

Also (new in 2023) BAAH is a "select partner" that benefits from LP bonuses (20% for 6 months after achieving 60k LP; 30% for 6 months after achieving 100k LP). RM is not a "select partner" so no bonus LP will be awarded. Note that the bonus is LP only (no bonus RDM are awarded). Although there as some data points with members receiving LP bonuses for the actual stay that put them over the bonus level, AA's official response has been that you'll only receive the bonus LPs for stays completed after you achieve the new bonus level.

16. Can I book a room for someone else but still get the miles in my account?
Yes, if you book through RM. No, if you book through BAAH.

Also, both RM and BAAH will let you book multiple rooms under a single reservation, but the rooms will all be non-refundable. (Booking a single room shows refundable options.)

17. Which year will my LPs count for if I check in a hotel in February but check out in March?
RM stays have their posting date effective the check OUT date.
BAAH stays have their posting date effective the check IN date.
Given the LP program is new for 2022, we assume AA will treat hotel bookings from BAAH and RM the same as a flight taken on Feb 28: LPs will count effective for the date of the posting from RM or BAAH, not the date your account actually gets miles added. Will be updated in March once we have reports

18. Will I earn points in my hotel loyalty program if I book thru RM or BAAH?
Unlikely, but occasionally people have posted they got elite benefits or a mistaken hotel credit, but it's a 3rd party booking, so most hotel stay programs exclude earning for stays booked thru methods like this. Expect to earn nothing and get no benefits. Anything extra is a nice surprise.




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Old Feb 27, 2024, 10:16 am
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So now that log-in purgatory appears to have been fixed, who is in points purgatory? I've now done one call and one email for a late January (5 weeks ago) stay but still nothing. For my peace of mind I'd love for these to post before Thursday but FTers - give me solace, they will post, backdate, and count for prior year status right?
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They owe me for 3 trips, prepaid and completed.
Emailed them twice no response yet.
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Originally Posted by O62
For my peace of mind I'd love for these to post before Thursday but FTers - give me solace, they will post, backdate, and count for prior year status right?
They will post, backdated and count for prior year status if they process after 2/29.
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Old Feb 27, 2024, 3:19 pm
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Can somebody tell me if I book a hotel for other person in rocketmiles in order to earn AA Loyalty points this will be awarded? I have just saw this message on the top of the page for guest information : Guest details must match the name associated with your American Airlines AAdvantage account in order to accrue miles for this transaction. I have made a lot of reservations for other persons so far and I have been awarded with miles, but maybe some change has been made and now I'm afraid to test. Did somebody try it?
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I have made a lot of reservations for other persons so far and I have been awarded with miles,
When did you last try that?
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Old Feb 27, 2024, 6:15 pm
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Hi all, I suspect this is an inexperienced agent issue but I was just on the phone with Aadvantage Hotels and an agent claimed hotels no longer earn LP. In a slight panic as I checked out of a hotel 2/21 and it is yet to post. All were booked thru Advantage Hotels where it stated 6700 LP's would be earned. The checked-out receipt makes no mention of LP just RM.

Am I correct in thinking the agent is wrong and also, the LP's will backdate to check out?

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Old Feb 27, 2024, 6:44 pm
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Originally Posted by mosfet
Hi all, I suspect this is an inexperienced agent issue but I was just on the phone with Aadvantage Hotels and an agent claimed hotels no longer earn LP. In a slight panic as I checked out of a hotel 2/21 and it is yet to post. All were booked thru Advantage Hotels where it stated 6700 LP's would be earned. The checked-out receipt makes no mention of LP just RM.

Am I correct in thinking the agent is wrong and also, the LP's will backdate to check out?

Thanks
Yes, the agent is wrong. If your booking confirmation shows that you'll earn Loyalty Points, you'll get them.

For a recent AA Hotels booking I received an email six day after I checked out with the message that "Your 5,000 American Airlines AAdvantage program miles have posted." Actually, with a 20% bonus, I earned 6,000 points on that stay. In the the activity tab of the AA app, there are backdated to my check-in date.
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Old Feb 27, 2024, 7:09 pm
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Originally Posted by TWA884
Yes, the agent is wrong. If your booking confirmation shows that you'll earn Loyalty Points, you'll get them.
While I am not disagreeing, there is no indication on the receipt if they are LPs or not. For the current hotel I am in, the receipt states Total Miles Earned, without any reference to LPs. But unless something has changed since my last stay 2 weeks ago, I am expecting these to be LPs (AND RDMs)
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Old Feb 27, 2024, 7:27 pm
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Originally Posted by TWA884
Yes, the agent is wrong. If your booking confirmation shows that you'll earn Loyalty Points, you'll get them.

For a recent AA Hotels booking I received an email six day after I checked out with the message that "Your 5,000 American Airlines AAdvantage program miles have posted." Actually, with a 20% bonus, I earned 6,000 points on that stay. In the the activity tab of the AA app, there are backdated to my check-in date.
Originally Posted by WannaTheater
While I am not disagreeing, there is no indication on the receipt if they are LPs or not. For the current hotel I am in, the receipt states Total Miles Earned, without any reference to LPs. But unless something has changed since my last stay 2 weeks ago, I am expecting these to be LPs (AND RDMs)
Hmm - booking confirmation doesn't mention LP just Total AAdvantage[size=8333px] [/size]miles earned...

Is there an instance where certain hotels/markets do not earn LP?

Here is the confirmation email screenshot which mentions the miles.


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Old Feb 27, 2024, 7:37 pm
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Originally Posted by mosfet
Hmm - booking confirmation doesn't mention LP just Total AAdvantage[size=8333px] [/size]miles earned...

Is there an instance where certain hotels/markets do not earn LP?

Here is the confirmation email screenshot which mentions the miles.


I agree. But even in the example provided, it mentions 7300 Aadvantage miles, with no specification if they are LPS or RDMs. For those that have not been doing this for awhile, I could see where there could be confusion.
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Old Feb 27, 2024, 7:54 pm
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Originally Posted by mosfet
Hmm - booking confirmation doesn't mention LP just Total AAdvantage miles earned...
My apologies.

I just rechecked the booking confirmation email for the example in my above post, it has the same language as yours; there is no distinction between RDM and LP.

The email which I received from AA Hotels six days after I checked out specifically mentioned Loyalty Points.
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Old Feb 27, 2024, 7:57 pm
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Originally Posted by TWA884
My apologies.

I just rechecked the booking confirmation email for the example in my above post, it has the same language as yours; there is no distinction between RDM and LP.

The email which I received from AA Hotels six days after I checked out specifically mentioned Loyalty Points.
Thanks, everyone and sorry to get into the weeds! But as we've all experienced it is in those weeds that we truly live in this hobby!
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Old Feb 27, 2024, 10:10 pm
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Originally Posted by mosfet
Thanks, everyone and sorry to get into the weeds! But as we've all experienced it is in those weeds that we truly live in this hobby!
As usual, AA is itself the source of the confusion here, with complicated and inconsistent terminology. If you look at the AA Hotels home page, you'll see a reference to "base miles" earned. In AA speak, "base miles" = RDMs + LPs. But they don't use this term consistently and sometimes shorten it, presumably out of years of habit, to "miles.". See the below screenshot from the page explaining the Loyalty Points program, where they talk about activities earning both miles and LPs, but then pretty much use the two terms interchangeably "e.g. earn 5 miles per dollar" - true but incomplete. The bottom line is that the earnings rule for the activity in which you are participating is what will govern whether you earn RDMs and LPs or just RDMs. . Those rules can be found in the FAQ section on this page: https://www.aa.com/pubcontent/en_US/...nts/index.html

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Old Feb 27, 2024, 11:00 pm
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Originally Posted by notquiteaff
When did you last try that?
In AA last October, but in RM with Aeroplan last month for.last time and there works, but I don't know how is with AA and I don't want to risk, but want to upgrade my status and need some.miles
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Old Feb 28, 2024, 7:56 am
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Praise be! My points from January finally posted (1/22)
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