Dec 17, 2021, 11:25 am
Last edit by: jbeckett
American Airlines announced that starting in 2022, the way to earn Elite status has changed. No more Elite Qualifying Miles (EQM), Elite Qualifying Segments (EQS), or Elite Qualifying Dollars (EQD)!
Now, you can get AA Elite status by earning Loyalty Points (LPs): https://aadvantagestatus.com/?anchor...=newaadvantage
How many LPs do I need for elite status?
How do I earn LPs?
Flying
What you get for redeemable miles (RDM) is what you'll get for LPs.
AA and B6 flights:
No status: 5 LPs per $ spent in base fare plus fees (excludes taxes)
Gold: 7 LPs per $
Platinum: 8 LPs per $
Plat Pro: 9 LPs per $
EXP: 11 LPs per $
Partner flights (other than B6):
Distance flown x accrual rate* x (1 + cabin bonus + elite bonus**)
* Certain discount fares earn less than 100% of miles flown. In those cases, the discounted accrual rate (0% to 75% depending on the partner and the fare class) should be applied to the flown miles. Otherwise, the accrual rate is 100%. If there is a cabin bonus, it should not be added to the accrual rate; it is applied separately within the parentheses. The accrual rate can never be more than 100%.
** 40% for GLD, 60% for PLT, 80% for PRO, 120% for EXP.
So for example, an EXP on a 5000-mile flight on QR booked in J would earn 5000 x 100% x (1 + 25% + 120%) = 5000 x 1 x 2.45 = 12250 LPs.
A PLT on the same flight booked in P would earn 5000 x 75% x (1 + 0% + 60%) = 5000 x .75 x 1.6 = 6000 LPs.
Earning chart for QR
Here's a great online LP calculator:
https://lpcalculator.com/#/calculator/
AAdvantage non-flying partners:
Generally, 1 LP per base mile earned. But in many cases you can earn large bonuses that post as base miles; see link here: https://exploreamerican.com/newaadva...nloyaltypoints
There are differences among how these programs work, ranging from minor to significant, in terms of awarding LPs. You will need to skim through the thread as there are too many different promo offers to address here. But here are the popular ones:
BookAAHotels and RocketMiles: You can earn large mileage bonuses here, separated into "base" miles and "promo" miles by the portals. For now they are all posting as base miles on aa.com, but there is a suspicion that the "promo" miles may start posting as bonus miles (and so would not count as LP). You don't even have to actually check in or stay at the hotel as long as you pay for the stay.
SimplyMiles: You must link a MasterCard to the account. Then you can add their promos to your card by activating the offers. When you accept one of their offers and then pay for it using your linked card, you will get the associated miles which currently post as base miles on aa.com.
AAdvantage eShopping: Once you click through the AAdvantage eShopping portal to a vendor offer and make a purchase, you will eventually get the associated miles posted to your AAdvantage account as both redeemable miles and Loyalty Points. If the merchant advertises an increase in the miles per dollar spent, you'll earn the higher amount in both redeemable miles and an equal number of Loyalty Points. The same applies if a merchant advertises a higher fixed amount per purchase, rather than a per dollar amount. Examples of this would appear on the portal as, "Extra miles. Was 1 mile/$. Now earn 3 miles/$" or "Extra miles. Was up to 3700 miles. Now up to 6200 miles." However, if the website advertises a "Limited-time bonus offer" for "bonus miles" after meeting a spending threshold, that bonus will only post as redeemable miles and not Loyalty Points. If a bonus is offered for some site-wide activity such as 1000 miles for installing an extension, or 500 miles for enrolling in the portal, or 2000 miles for meeting a spending threshold across multiple merchants, the bonus will only post as redeemable miles and not Loyalty Points.
(If a vendor has offers with both SimplyMiles and eShopping, activate the offer on SimplyMiles first and then make the purchase through eShopping with the MasterCard linked to your SimplyMiles account. Apparently that you can get a double-dip. You can also get a double-dip by stacking the promos with discount offers from your credit card issuers, basically reducing the cost to you.
Booking directly with hotels, car rental companies, etc.: The picture here is a bit unclear but it appears that if you book with a hotel that offers 5x miles, only 1 mile will post as base and the rest as bonus.
Credit card spend:
1 LP per $ spent on an AA branded card (except for one card which earns 0.50 LP per $ and several non-US cards which earn 2 LP per $). See the list of cards, and a lot more small print here: https://creditcards.aa.com/aadvantag...hange_ExecCard
What about spending bonuses?
E.g., your card gives 2x miles for hotels, or 3x for AA purchases, etc etc. These do NOT count.
These bonuses count:
Citi AAdvantage Executive World Elite Mastercard (the $450 annual fee card that gives Admirals Club access): 10K LP bonus when hitting $40K spend for the year.
AAdvantage Aviator Silver Mastercard: 5K LP bonus when hitting $20K spend, another 5K LP bonus when hitting $40K spend, and another 5K LP bonus when hitting $50K spend for the year.
Do miles earned at Bask Bank count?
No.
Will Loyalty Points count toward Million Miler℠ status?
No, Million Miler℠ status will still be earned the same way as today, based on miles earned from flying with American and its partners.
Now, you can get AA Elite status by earning Loyalty Points (LPs): https://aadvantagestatus.com/?anchor...=newaadvantage
How many LPs do I need for elite status?
Code:
Gold: 40K Platinum: 75K Plat Pro: 125K EXP: 200K
Flying
What you get for redeemable miles (RDM) is what you'll get for LPs.
AA and B6 flights:
No status: 5 LPs per $ spent in base fare plus fees (excludes taxes)
Gold: 7 LPs per $
Platinum: 8 LPs per $
Plat Pro: 9 LPs per $
EXP: 11 LPs per $
Partner flights (other than B6):
Distance flown x accrual rate* x (1 + cabin bonus + elite bonus**)
* Certain discount fares earn less than 100% of miles flown. In those cases, the discounted accrual rate (0% to 75% depending on the partner and the fare class) should be applied to the flown miles. Otherwise, the accrual rate is 100%. If there is a cabin bonus, it should not be added to the accrual rate; it is applied separately within the parentheses. The accrual rate can never be more than 100%.
** 40% for GLD, 60% for PLT, 80% for PRO, 120% for EXP.
So for example, an EXP on a 5000-mile flight on QR booked in J would earn 5000 x 100% x (1 + 25% + 120%) = 5000 x 1 x 2.45 = 12250 LPs.
A PLT on the same flight booked in P would earn 5000 x 75% x (1 + 0% + 60%) = 5000 x .75 x 1.6 = 6000 LPs.
Earning chart for QR
Here's a great online LP calculator:
https://lpcalculator.com/#/calculator/
AAdvantage non-flying partners:
Generally, 1 LP per base mile earned. But in many cases you can earn large bonuses that post as base miles; see link here: https://exploreamerican.com/newaadva...nloyaltypoints
There are differences among how these programs work, ranging from minor to significant, in terms of awarding LPs. You will need to skim through the thread as there are too many different promo offers to address here. But here are the popular ones:
BookAAHotels and RocketMiles: You can earn large mileage bonuses here, separated into "base" miles and "promo" miles by the portals. For now they are all posting as base miles on aa.com, but there is a suspicion that the "promo" miles may start posting as bonus miles (and so would not count as LP). You don't even have to actually check in or stay at the hotel as long as you pay for the stay.
SimplyMiles: You must link a MasterCard to the account. Then you can add their promos to your card by activating the offers. When you accept one of their offers and then pay for it using your linked card, you will get the associated miles which currently post as base miles on aa.com.
AAdvantage eShopping: Once you click through the AAdvantage eShopping portal to a vendor offer and make a purchase, you will eventually get the associated miles posted to your AAdvantage account as both redeemable miles and Loyalty Points. If the merchant advertises an increase in the miles per dollar spent, you'll earn the higher amount in both redeemable miles and an equal number of Loyalty Points. The same applies if a merchant advertises a higher fixed amount per purchase, rather than a per dollar amount. Examples of this would appear on the portal as, "Extra miles. Was 1 mile/$. Now earn 3 miles/$" or "Extra miles. Was up to 3700 miles. Now up to 6200 miles." However, if the website advertises a "Limited-time bonus offer" for "bonus miles" after meeting a spending threshold, that bonus will only post as redeemable miles and not Loyalty Points. If a bonus is offered for some site-wide activity such as 1000 miles for installing an extension, or 500 miles for enrolling in the portal, or 2000 miles for meeting a spending threshold across multiple merchants, the bonus will only post as redeemable miles and not Loyalty Points.
- A separate thread exists to discuss the AAdvantage eShopping portal
- Another thread exists to discuss using the portal for a particular merchant, giftcards.com
- For additional questions about buying and using gift cards, refer to the separate Manufactured Spending forum.
(If a vendor has offers with both SimplyMiles and eShopping, activate the offer on SimplyMiles first and then make the purchase through eShopping with the MasterCard linked to your SimplyMiles account. Apparently that you can get a double-dip. You can also get a double-dip by stacking the promos with discount offers from your credit card issuers, basically reducing the cost to you.
Booking directly with hotels, car rental companies, etc.: The picture here is a bit unclear but it appears that if you book with a hotel that offers 5x miles, only 1 mile will post as base and the rest as bonus.
Credit card spend:
1 LP per $ spent on an AA branded card (except for one card which earns 0.50 LP per $ and several non-US cards which earn 2 LP per $). See the list of cards, and a lot more small print here: https://creditcards.aa.com/aadvantag...hange_ExecCard
What about spending bonuses?
E.g., your card gives 2x miles for hotels, or 3x for AA purchases, etc etc. These do NOT count.
These bonuses count:
Citi AAdvantage Executive World Elite Mastercard (the $450 annual fee card that gives Admirals Club access): 10K LP bonus when hitting $40K spend for the year.
AAdvantage Aviator Silver Mastercard: 5K LP bonus when hitting $20K spend, another 5K LP bonus when hitting $40K spend, and another 5K LP bonus when hitting $50K spend for the year.
Do miles earned at Bask Bank count?
No.
Will Loyalty Points count toward Million Miler℠ status?
No, Million Miler℠ status will still be earned the same way as today, based on miles earned from flying with American and its partners.
Loyalty Points discussion/questions - From 2022 now used for determining elite status
Mar 15, 2023, 11:07 am
#4021
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: NYC
Programs: AA Executive Platinum, DL Silver, IHG Diamond Elite, Marriot Gold, HHonors Gold
Posts: 73
Recently flew a PHL-LHR flight in biz (AA marketed, AA operated). Base ticket fare was $700, carrier-imposed fees were $1400, and about $220 in taxes (for a total of about $2320). When it posted, AA used the distance calculation for some reason and I got about 17k LP instead of the 23,100 I thought I should have gotten based on fare. So, I called and asked for the correct fare-based calculation. The agent said the carrier imposed fees may not be included in the calculation, but couldn't really explain why. From my reading of the AA webpage, the carrier-imposed fees should clearly be part of the calculations, but then I started to wonder if a bulk of the "carrier-imposed" fees would be the LHR-specific business class "tax" and if that would be excluded from the "carrier-imposed fees." Anyone have experience with this? The receipt very clearly shows $1400 in "carrier-imposed fees" and separately, taxes of about $220.
Mar 16, 2023, 10:23 am
#4026
Join Date: Oct 2022
Location: South Florida
Programs: AK 75K (fFormerly 100K for one year), DL Silver (formerly DM) for 10 years, Delta MM, AA
Posts: 120
AA Flights and Alaska MP Points
American and Alaska
I'm not sure if I'm posting in the correct forum. I have an AA RT MIA--LHR in Economy (not saver). One way is in Z (ZERO points on Alaska) and the other is in O (25% accrual).
If I just credit the points to AA, do I get UP as a 75K with Alaska? If not, can I go one way crediting the 25% to Alaska and credit the other way to AA?
Thanks.
Points
I'm not sure if I'm posting in the correct forum. I have an AA RT MIA--LHR in Economy (not saver). One way is in Z (ZERO points on Alaska) and the other is in O (25% accrual).
If I just credit the points to AA, do I get UP as a 75K with Alaska? If not, can I go one way crediting the 25% to Alaska and credit the other way to AA?
Thanks.
Points
Mar 16, 2023, 10:31 am
#4027
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: PHX
Programs: AA EXP, IHG Diamond, IC Amb
Posts: 5,511
It appears I (and my gf) have somehow received double LPs on a flight in which we used my SWUs both ways.
Total Ticket cost was $687 (not sure how much was taxes,etc)...here are the results LAX-HND-LAX. Am I seeing things or is this 2x the amount of LPs I should have received as an EXP?
Total Ticket cost was $687 (not sure how much was taxes,etc)...here are the results LAX-HND-LAX. Am I seeing things or is this 2x the amount of LPs I should have received as an EXP?
Last edited by 355F1; Mar 16, 2023 at 10:57 am
Mar 16, 2023, 10:39 am
#4028
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: DCA
Programs: AA EXP 1MM, WOH Globalist
Posts: 1,160
This looks like it might be distance-based calculation
Mar 16, 2023, 10:56 am
#4029
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: PHX
Programs: AA EXP, IHG Diamond, IC Amb
Posts: 5,511
I don't think that's it as It says METHOD: FARE for both legs, and it was AA metal, AA ticket, AA SWU used.
Outgoing shows Business, Incoming shows Economy. I wonder if somehow the ticket price was changed internally on the re-issue when we had a schedule change?
Outgoing shows Business, Incoming shows Economy. I wonder if somehow the ticket price was changed internally on the re-issue when we had a schedule change?
Last edited by 355F1; Mar 16, 2023 at 6:58 pm
Mar 16, 2023, 6:36 pm
#4030
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Wesley Chapel, FL
Programs: American Airlines
Posts: 30,028
15000 LP’s achieved
So I hit 15K LP’s today. Little did I know there were awards.
Ah thanks AA but each oh these awards are a serious downgrade. Why would an EXP want group 4 or preferred seat passes? lol.
I looked at the next award tiers… 60, 100, 175.. nowhere did I see SWU rewards. Am I missing something?
Ah thanks AA but each oh these awards are a serious downgrade. Why would an EXP want group 4 or preferred seat passes? lol.
I looked at the next award tiers… 60, 100, 175.. nowhere did I see SWU rewards. Am I missing something?
Mar 16, 2023, 6:41 pm
#4031
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 10,904
So I hit 15K LP’s today. Little did I know there were awards.
Ah thanks AA but each oh these awards are a serious downgrade. Why would an EXP want group 4 or preferred seat passes? lol.
I looked at the next award tiers… 60, 100, 175.. nowhere did I see SWU rewards. Am I missing something?
Ah thanks AA but each oh these awards are a serious downgrade. Why would an EXP want group 4 or preferred seat passes? lol.
I looked at the next award tiers… 60, 100, 175.. nowhere did I see SWU rewards. Am I missing something?
And it is not too surprising that the 15k level does not include anything that an EXP already has. Would you be happy if someone who has gotten 15k this year was ahead of you on an upgrade list or something? 🤣
Mar 16, 2023, 7:12 pm
#4032
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: DEN
Programs: AA EXP, AA Million Miles, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 2,586
So I hit 15K LP’s today. Little did I know there were awards.
Ah thanks AA but each oh these awards are a serious downgrade. Why would an EXP want group 4 or preferred seat passes? lol.
I looked at the next award tiers… 60, 100, 175.. nowhere did I see SWU rewards. Am I missing something?
Ah thanks AA but each oh these awards are a serious downgrade. Why would an EXP want group 4 or preferred seat passes? lol.
I looked at the next award tiers… 60, 100, 175.. nowhere did I see SWU rewards. Am I missing something?
The SWUs are very clearly there, starting at 175K LPs:
https://www.aa.com/i18n/aadvantage-p...nt-rewards.jsp
Mar 16, 2023, 9:05 pm
#4033
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: NYC
Programs: AA EXP / LT PLT / 3MM, Marriott LT Gold
Posts: 35,389
I am 1300 LP short of qualifying for ExPlat for 2023. Knew that I'd be a bit shy of the mark, so did the logical thing and read the FlyerTalk forum. Best advice for quick LP seemed to be a subscription to Motley Fool for 5000 LP (prior posts had indicated the LP were issued quickly). Subscribed on Feb 23.
As the LPs had not yet posted, I submitted a claim to the AA shopping portal. They responded today:
According to The Motley Fool's Terms and Conditions listed below, subscription must be active for at least 60 days.
...(then, a summary of terms and conditions)
If the rewards for order # 24060827 do not post by 4/24/2023, please contact us back and we will be happy to research this further.
They do also state that LPs will be backdated to the time of transaction.
BUT....the problem is - I have extensive flying between now and 4/24 (including a trip to Tokyo). I want to have the extra SWU at my disposal for the Japan trip, and also to earn miles at the higher ExPlat rate.
I understood - or misunderstood - that the Motley LP would post soon after payment.
Any advice? History from others, regarding posting of Motley Fool LP? Resources, or places to go to find resolution (I don't do Twitter).
As the LPs had not yet posted, I submitted a claim to the AA shopping portal. They responded today:
According to The Motley Fool's Terms and Conditions listed below, subscription must be active for at least 60 days.
...(then, a summary of terms and conditions)
If the rewards for order # 24060827 do not post by 4/24/2023, please contact us back and we will be happy to research this further.
They do also state that LPs will be backdated to the time of transaction.
BUT....the problem is - I have extensive flying between now and 4/24 (including a trip to Tokyo). I want to have the extra SWU at my disposal for the Japan trip, and also to earn miles at the higher ExPlat rate.
I understood - or misunderstood - that the Motley LP would post soon after payment.
Any advice? History from others, regarding posting of Motley Fool LP? Resources, or places to go to find resolution (I don't do Twitter).
Mar 16, 2023, 9:20 pm
#4034
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Wesley Chapel, FL
Programs: American Airlines
Posts: 30,028
That 15K level is not a downgrade, there's no actual loss of benefits because of it. And in the prior year the first rewards/choices threshold was at 125K LP. So in a way the 15K tier is an addition. It's just irrelevant if you already have status.
The SWUs are very clearly there, starting at 175K LPs:
https://www.aa.com/i18n/aadvantage-p...nt-rewards.jsp
The SWUs are very clearly there, starting at 175K LPs:
https://www.aa.com/i18n/aadvantage-p...nt-rewards.jsp
Mar 16, 2023, 9:52 pm
#4035
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 10,904