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Old Dec 17, 2021, 11:25 am
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American Airlines announced that starting in 2022, the way to earn Elite status has changed. No more Elite Qualifying Miles (EQM), Elite Qualifying Segments (EQS), or Elite Qualifying Dollars (EQD)!

Now, you can get AA Elite status by earning Loyalty Points (LPs): https://aadvantagestatus.com/?anchor...=newaadvantage

How many LPs do I need for elite status?


Code:
Gold:       40K
Platinum:   75K
Plat Pro:  125K
EXP:       200K
How do I earn LPs?

Flying
What you get for redeemable miles (RDM) is what you'll get for LPs.

AA and B6 flights:
No status: 5 LPs per $ spent in base fare plus fees (excludes taxes)
Gold: 7 LPs per $
Platinum: 8 LPs per $
Plat Pro: 9 LPs per $
EXP: 11 LPs per $

Partner flights (other than B6):
Distance flown x accrual rate* x (1 + cabin bonus + elite bonus**)

* Certain discount fares earn less than 100% of miles flown. In those cases, the discounted accrual rate (0% to 75% depending on the partner and the fare class) should be applied to the flown miles. Otherwise, the accrual rate is 100%. If there is a cabin bonus, it should not be added to the accrual rate; it is applied separately within the parentheses. The accrual rate can never be more than 100%.
** 40% for GLD, 60% for PLT, 80% for PRO, 120% for EXP.

So for example, an EXP on a 5000-mile flight on QR booked in J would earn 5000 x 100% x (1 + 25% + 120%) = 5000 x 1 x 2.45 = 12250 LPs.

A PLT on the same flight booked in P would earn 5000 x 75% x (1 + 0% + 60%) = 5000 x .75 x 1.6 = 6000 LPs.

Earning chart for QR

Here's a great online LP calculator:

https://lpcalculator.com/#/calculator/

AAdvantage non-flying partners:
Generally, 1 LP per base mile earned. But in many cases you can earn large bonuses that post as base miles; see link here: https://exploreamerican.com/newaadva...nloyaltypoints

There are differences among how these programs work, ranging from minor to significant, in terms of awarding LPs. You will need to skim through the thread as there are too many different promo offers to address here. But here are the popular ones:

BookAAHotels and RocketMiles: You can earn large mileage bonuses here, separated into "base" miles and "promo" miles by the portals. For now they are all posting as base miles on aa.com, but there is a suspicion that the "promo" miles may start posting as bonus miles (and so would not count as LP). You don't even have to actually check in or stay at the hotel as long as you pay for the stay.

SimplyMiles: You must link a MasterCard to the account. Then you can add their promos to your card by activating the offers. When you accept one of their offers and then pay for it using your linked card, you will get the associated miles which currently post as base miles on aa.com.

AAdvantage eShopping: Once you click through the AAdvantage eShopping portal to a vendor offer and make a purchase, you will eventually get the associated miles posted to your AAdvantage account as both redeemable miles and Loyalty Points. If the merchant advertises an increase in the miles per dollar spent, you'll earn the higher amount in both redeemable miles and an equal number of Loyalty Points. The same applies if a merchant advertises a higher fixed amount per purchase, rather than a per dollar amount. Examples of this would appear on the portal as, "Extra miles. Was 1 mile/$. Now earn 3 miles/$" or "Extra miles. Was up to 3700 miles. Now up to 6200 miles." However, if the website advertises a "Limited-time bonus offer" for "bonus miles" after meeting a spending threshold, that bonus will only post as redeemable miles and not Loyalty Points. If a bonus is offered for some site-wide activity such as 1000 miles for installing an extension, or 500 miles for enrolling in the portal, or 2000 miles for meeting a spending threshold across multiple merchants, the bonus will only post as redeemable miles and not Loyalty Points.
(If a vendor has offers with both SimplyMiles and eShopping, activate the offer on SimplyMiles first and then make the purchase through eShopping with the MasterCard linked to your SimplyMiles account. Apparently that you can get a double-dip. You can also get a double-dip by stacking the promos with discount offers from your credit card issuers, basically reducing the cost to you.

Booking directly with hotels, car rental companies, etc.: The picture here is a bit unclear but it appears that if you book with a hotel that offers 5x miles, only 1 mile will post as base and the rest as bonus.

Credit card spend:
1 LP per $ spent on an AA branded card (except for one card which earns 0.50 LP per $ and several non-US cards which earn 2 LP per $). See the list of cards, and a lot more small print here: https://creditcards.aa.com/aadvantag...hange_ExecCard

What about spending bonuses?
E.g., your card gives 2x miles for hotels, or 3x for AA purchases, etc etc. These do NOT count.

These bonuses count:
Citi AAdvantage Executive World Elite Mastercard (the $450 annual fee card that gives Admirals Club access): 10K LP bonus when hitting $40K spend for the year.
AAdvantage Aviator Silver Mastercard: 5K LP bonus when hitting $20K spend, another 5K LP bonus when hitting $40K spend, and another 5K LP bonus when hitting $50K spend for the year.

Do miles earned at Bask Bank count?
No.

Will Loyalty Points count toward Million Miler status?
No, Million Miler℠ status will still be earned the same way as today, based on miles earned from flying with American and its partners.











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Old Feb 20, 2023, 7:14 am
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Originally Posted by Seggie
I am EXP and curious about the new rewards starting in March. At each level of miles or loyalty points do you get to pick the rewards in that category example after hitting 175,000 you get to choose one reward let’s say I took the 2 systemwide upgrade when I hit 250,000 I could choose two rewards one of them being 2 systemwide upgrade, so would I now have 4 systemwide upgrades ?
Yes, that is correct.
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Old Feb 20, 2023, 7:31 am
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I’m 893 points shy of Plat Pro. Any suggestions for the best way to hit this in 7 days? I thought about booking a hotel here in Dallas for 1 night through RocketMiles but in the past they seem to take between 1-2 weeks to post to my account which would be awfully risky.
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Old Feb 20, 2023, 7:36 am
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Originally Posted by JJeffrey
Yes, that is correct.
thank you so much
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Old Feb 20, 2023, 5:44 pm
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Originally Posted by Mtvitale
I’m 893 points shy of Plat Pro. Any suggestions for the best way to hit this in 7 days? I thought about booking a hotel here in Dallas for 1 night through RocketMiles but in the past they seem to take between 1-2 weeks to post to my account which would be awfully risky.
Go take a quick round trip flight for as cheap you can make it to make enough LP. Get the wall street journal for $4 and 1000LP on Aadvantage eshopping. Less than 1000 points should be easy and definitely worth it.
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Old Feb 21, 2023, 6:23 am
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Originally Posted by Mtvitale
I’m 893 points shy of Plat Pro. Any suggestions for the best way to hit this in 7 days? I thought about booking a hotel here in Dallas for 1 night through RocketMiles but in the past they seem to take between 1-2 weeks to post to my account which would be awfully risky.
Sign up for Thrive market through AA shopping. You’ll get 20x on the membership fee, which is $60. Last year it posted for me in 2 days. You have to keep the membership active for at least 45 days. Be sure to use a separate browser than your normal one, with no ad blocking or privacy extensions installed.
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Old Feb 21, 2023, 6:52 am
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Thanks all. Did some AA eShopping on items we’d normally buy anyways. Hopefully they post this week. If not it’s a DFW to ATX flight for lunch!
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Old Feb 21, 2023, 9:06 am
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Originally Posted by Mtvitale
Thanks all. Did some AA eShopping on items we’d normally buy anyways. Hopefully they post this week. If not it’s a DFW to ATX flight for lunch!
Should post within 2-3 business days and even if it posts after 2/28 all transactions are back dated to the original purchase date, so it will all be credited towards the current qualification period.
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Old Feb 21, 2023, 10:30 am
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Checked out of Royal Hawaiian on 2/14 booked through BAAH. When should I expect to see these points post to my account?
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Old Feb 21, 2023, 12:45 pm
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Originally Posted by globalmogul
Checked out of Royal Hawaiian on 2/14 booked through BAAH. When should I expect to see these points post to my account?
I am in the same boat as you with a BAAH booking with a 2/14 checkout from a recent vacation trip. The last one I did posted 9 days after check out so I’ll give it until Friday.
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Old Feb 23, 2023, 5:32 am
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Fine print on Eshopping terms question: Terms say "Only eligible for new purchases that have been active for at least 60 days"... With 5 days left in February, would these points go towards this years or next years status? For Verizon Fios that I'm about to renew/upgrade equipment anyway.

I've got 39000 pts to go for EP so not looking good for me... so also looking for big purchase/multiplier ideas...
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Old Feb 23, 2023, 5:46 am
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Originally Posted by tcj103
Fine print on Eshopping terms question: Terms say "Only eligible for new purchases that have been active for at least 60 days"... With 5 days left in February, would these points go towards this years or next years status? For Verizon Fios that I'm about to renew/upgrade equipment anyway.

I've got 39000 pts to go for EP so not looking good for me... so also looking for big purchase/multiplier ideas...
It depends on how much you want to spend. You can get there straightforwardly for about 3 cents/LP if you follow the techniques in the bookaahotels thread. (Pre-paid no-show stays in southeast Asia, with the "boosters" applied.) So it is up to you, but time is definitely running short

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Old Feb 23, 2023, 6:27 am
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Mine just posted…I got 252k points that will get 2 more SWU….going to call AA today and look at booking for Spain or Portugal in Oct …any advice on SWU ?
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Old Feb 23, 2023, 6:39 am
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Originally Posted by tcj103
Fine print on Eshopping terms question: Terms say "Only eligible for new purchases that have been active for at least 60 days"... With 5 days left in February, would these points go towards this years or next years status? For Verizon Fios that I'm about to renew/upgrade equipment anyway.

I've got 39000 pts to go for EP so not looking good for me... so also looking for big purchase/multiplier ideas...
I can't understand why anyone would end the year at only PP. If you fly regularly, it doesn't make sense not to based on math behind it. If I value miles at 1 or 1.5 cents, and I can book hotels on RM right now for 2.5 cents, I only need to justify paying 1 to 1.5 cents per LP to make up points you are short of EP.

So let's say someone is 60k short of EP. Right now you can spend $1500 on RM to earn 60k in LP. The 60k in RDM you earn are worth $600-$900 depending on how you value your miles. Now you receive 2 loyalty choices. SWU's are the most valuable if you can use, but say you choose the miles for another 50k miles worth $500-$750. So in a worse case valuation, you spent $1500, and received miles worth $1100. So EP costs $400. Now all of next year you supercharge earnings at 120% (vs 80% as PP) which is a big deal, and you're hitting loyalty choices sooner, and requalifying quicker. The benefits of being EP over PP are significant by themselves. Again, I can't imagine why someone would stay at PP when it is so easy, even this late, to qualify for EP.
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Old Feb 23, 2023, 7:24 am
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Originally Posted by Cooper21
I can't imagine why someone would stay at PP when it is so easy, even this late, to qualify for EP.
Easy...because many people just don't care about reaching a higher status. While FT regulars discuss it ad nauseum, most others don't care. Also, spending that extra money to get the status, for many, just isn't worth it.
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Old Feb 23, 2023, 7:38 am
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Originally Posted by GNRMatt
Easy...because many people just don't care about reaching a higher status. While FT regulars discuss it ad nauseum, most others don't care. Also, spending that extra money to get the status, for many, just isn't worth it.
I hit PPro late last year and I gamed out pushing for EXP, ultimately I couldn’t justify spending thousands on unnecessary hotel stays just to be able to upgrade on awards.
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