[Archived] AA oneworld & Other Airline Partner Award information, rules (2015-2018)
Dec 20, 2015, 7:54 pm
#856
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: LAX, LGB, SNA
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Why would you want to stop in phx from iah to lax and stop in iah from lax to Mia? Both of those as directs would be much better than with stops and better planes.
Dec 20, 2015, 8:25 pm
#857
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Colorado
Programs: Hilton Gold, Hyatt Platinum
Posts: 137
Can't book seats
Hello,
I am trying to book HND-HKG-MLE or NRT-HKG-MLE for a trip next year, both Qantas website and British Airways website are showing 2 seats in both Business Class (NRT & HND on CX and/or JL ) and First Class (HND on CX), however whenever I try calling AA to book, they are saying there is only economy available from both originating airports.
Is there some trick or assumption that I am missing to get the agents to see these seats?
Thanks
I am trying to book HND-HKG-MLE or NRT-HKG-MLE for a trip next year, both Qantas website and British Airways website are showing 2 seats in both Business Class (NRT & HND on CX and/or JL ) and First Class (HND on CX), however whenever I try calling AA to book, they are saying there is only economy available from both originating airports.
Is there some trick or assumption that I am missing to get the agents to see these seats?
Thanks
Dec 20, 2015, 8:32 pm
#858
Join Date: Apr 2007
Programs: QF, VA, AC, Hyatt, Marriott
Posts: 3,784
Hello,
I am trying to book HND-HKG-MLE or NRT-HKG-MLE for a trip next year, both Qantas website and British Airways website are showing 2 seats in both Business Class (NRT & HND on CX and/or JL ) and First Class (HND on CX), however whenever I try calling AA to book, they are saying there is only economy available from both originating airports.
Is there some trick or assumption that I am missing to get the agents to see these seats?
Thanks
I am trying to book HND-HKG-MLE or NRT-HKG-MLE for a trip next year, both Qantas website and British Airways website are showing 2 seats in both Business Class (NRT & HND on CX and/or JL ) and First Class (HND on CX), however whenever I try calling AA to book, they are saying there is only economy available from both originating airports.
Is there some trick or assumption that I am missing to get the agents to see these seats?
Thanks
There have been issues with AA in the US not seeing award space on EY which is indeed availability. AA's Australian team (based in Fiji) have been able to secure the seats. The problem may well be more widespread. AA is also still showing phantom QF F availability on its website. It seems the system is not so great.
Dec 20, 2015, 8:36 pm
#859
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As for why? AA makes its AAdvantage award redemptions rules. Those who are unaware, or blithe to the rules, waste their time.
Dec 20, 2015, 9:33 pm
#860
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 141
If it is AY you definitely can use Avios. If it is Flybe, then BA cannot book it but AA can I believe.
Though I agree the LHR-LED is an easier approach even though the poster has to pay the BA YQ. I still dont understand why AA charges higher YQ on BA intra Europe flights than BA itself.
Though I agree the LHR-LED is an easier approach even though the poster has to pay the BA YQ. I still dont understand why AA charges higher YQ on BA intra Europe flights than BA itself.
Dec 20, 2015, 9:48 pm
#861
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Colorado
Programs: Hilton Gold, Hyatt Platinum
Posts: 137
Try phoning AA's Australian number on +61 2 9101 1948.
There have been issues with AA in the US not seeing award space on EY which is indeed availability. AA's Australian team (based in Fiji) have been able to secure the seats. The problem may well be more widespread. AA is also still showing phantom QF F availability on its website. It seems the system is not so great.
There have been issues with AA in the US not seeing award space on EY which is indeed availability. AA's Australian team (based in Fiji) have been able to secure the seats. The problem may well be more widespread. AA is also still showing phantom QF F availability on its website. It seems the system is not so great.
Thanks
Drek
Dec 20, 2015, 9:48 pm
#862
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Location: Florida
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That is it! Y is $27.50 and J is $44 from the tickets we have used this year, regardless where we flew to.
Dec 21, 2015, 10:38 am
#863
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: The KUL city
Programs: AA Lifetime Plat, TK Elite+
Posts: 2,663
With AA's routing rules and limited partners in Asia, you'll find it hard to max out segments (you can connect in and out of NRT/HND, HKG, KUL, CMB and throw in some odd 5th freedom routes, you can probably add BKK, TPE, ICN to the list).
I don't believe this is correct. CX and JL goes by MPM (it goes by routing if you are looking for cheap Y fares, but for flexible J/F fares, it's MPM for US-KUL). I've flown US-KUL a few times and I've flown via a few Asian cities before and not on CX on my final leg to KUL.
Dec 21, 2015, 12:57 pm
#864
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 36
Europe (FRA, LHR or ZRH) to the Maldives with AAdvantage
Hello AAdvantage experts,
While I read a lot about people redeeming miles from the US to the Maldives, I haven't found any success story of people redeeming AAdvantage miles from Europe (FRA, LHR or ZRH) to the Maldives.
I am not so familiar with AA's routing rules. Is it possible to redeem 40k miles for F to travel from Europe to the Maldives? Or would I have to redeem two separate awards since there seems to be no direct route?
With US Airways, it would have probably been possible to fly FRA-HKG-MLE, but I'm sure that won't be possible with American Airlines. At least not according to their two approaches of "no third region" and "most direct routing".
Thanks in advance for your input/help or clarification
While I read a lot about people redeeming miles from the US to the Maldives, I haven't found any success story of people redeeming AAdvantage miles from Europe (FRA, LHR or ZRH) to the Maldives.
I am not so familiar with AA's routing rules. Is it possible to redeem 40k miles for F to travel from Europe to the Maldives? Or would I have to redeem two separate awards since there seems to be no direct route?
With US Airways, it would have probably been possible to fly FRA-HKG-MLE, but I'm sure that won't be possible with American Airlines. At least not according to their two approaches of "no third region" and "most direct routing".
Thanks in advance for your input/help or clarification
Dec 21, 2015, 12:58 pm
#865
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 232
If the agent can price it for 67,500 miles then yes. Your return should be ok, but you might have to check MPM (KUL-CGK-NRT is not that big of a detour and I've ticketed KUL-CGK-NRT-LAX before).
With AA's routing rules and limited partners in Asia, you'll find it hard to max out segments (you can connect in and out of NRT/HND, HKG, KUL, CMB and throw in some odd 5th freedom routes, you can probably add BKK, TPE, ICN to the list).
I don't believe this is correct. CX and JL goes by MPM (it goes by routing if you are looking for cheap Y fares, but for flexible J/F fares, it's MPM for US-KUL). I've flown US-KUL a few times and I've flown via a few Asian cities before and not on CX on my final leg to KUL.
With AA's routing rules and limited partners in Asia, you'll find it hard to max out segments (you can connect in and out of NRT/HND, HKG, KUL, CMB and throw in some odd 5th freedom routes, you can probably add BKK, TPE, ICN to the list).
I don't believe this is correct. CX and JL goes by MPM (it goes by routing if you are looking for cheap Y fares, but for flexible J/F fares, it's MPM for US-KUL). I've flown US-KUL a few times and I've flown via a few Asian cities before and not on CX on my final leg to KUL.
true MPM is a bit tricky. wonder how much more lenient they are over the extra 25% slack? even if AAgent is able to price it for the right miles, will it get ticketed?
Dec 21, 2015, 2:55 pm
#867
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"Is it possible to redeem 40k miles for F to travel from Europe to the Maldives?"
Yes: call AA and ask for award space on EY or QR. Some reports here on FT indicate that AA's Australia Reservations office (phone 61 2-9101-1948) has an easier time booking available EY award space than other AA Reservations offices.
"Is it possible to redeem 40k miles for F to travel from Europe to the Maldives?"
Yes: call AA and ask for award space on EY or QR. Some reports here on FT indicate that AA's Australia Reservations office (phone 61 2-9101-1948) has an easier time booking available EY award space than other AA Reservations offices.
Dec 21, 2015, 2:59 pm
#868
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: SF Bay Area
Programs: AA LT PLT 3 MM+, BA (very) Blue, CO nobody
Posts: 2,640
Hello AAdvantage experts,
While I read a lot about people redeeming miles from the US to the Maldives, I haven't found any success story of people redeeming AAdvantage miles from Europe (FRA, LHR or ZRH) to the Maldives.
I am not so familiar with AA's routing rules. Is it possible to redeem 40k miles for F to travel from Europe to the Maldives? Or would I have to redeem two separate awards since there seems to be no direct route?
With US Airways, it would have probably been possible to fly FRA-HKG-MLE, but I'm sure that won't be possible with American Airlines. At least not according to their two approaches of "no third region" and "most direct routing".
Thanks in advance for your input/help or clarification
While I read a lot about people redeeming miles from the US to the Maldives, I haven't found any success story of people redeeming AAdvantage miles from Europe (FRA, LHR or ZRH) to the Maldives.
I am not so familiar with AA's routing rules. Is it possible to redeem 40k miles for F to travel from Europe to the Maldives? Or would I have to redeem two separate awards since there seems to be no direct route?
With US Airways, it would have probably been possible to fly FRA-HKG-MLE, but I'm sure that won't be possible with American Airlines. At least not according to their two approaches of "no third region" and "most direct routing".
Thanks in advance for your input/help or clarification
You can fly for 30K AA miles on UL (via CMB) or EY (via AUH) or QR (via DOH) from LHR or QR FRA-DOH-MLE (if redeemed before 3/22/16). Afterwards the J award will be 42.5K AA miles.
Dec 21, 2015, 4:22 pm
#869
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: The KUL city
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Posts: 2,663
Dec 21, 2015, 6:22 pm
#870
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Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry: BlackBerry8530/5.0.0.1030 Profile/MIDP-2.1 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/417)
"Is it possible to redeem 40k miles for F to travel from Europe to the Maldives?"
Yes: call AA and ask for award space on EY or QR. Some reports here on FT indicate that AA's Australia Reservations office (phone 61 2-9101-1948) has an easier time booking available EY award space than other AA Reservations offices.
"Is it possible to redeem 40k miles for F to travel from Europe to the Maldives?"
Yes: call AA and ask for award space on EY or QR. Some reports here on FT indicate that AA's Australia Reservations office (phone 61 2-9101-1948) has an easier time booking available EY award space than other AA Reservations offices.