[Archived] AA oneworld & Other Airline Partner Award information, rules (2015-2018)
Dec 19, 2015, 12:38 am
#811
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Anyone have tips on redeeming in First Class DFW to LED and then RIX back to DFW in March? Could also settle for business if needed. Just trying to avoid BA fuel surcharges on a transcon. All I'm finding on Qantas is a bunch of mixed cabins, and AA is trying to force me to use BA.
Dec 19, 2015, 1:27 am
#812
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Dec 19, 2015, 4:00 am
#813
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: ADL
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Yes, the next agent I got found the Air Nostrum flight I wanted, and was bookable. But interestingly, MLN is not considered Europe, even though it is Spanish territory. The booking was considered going into the another continent. No arguments, it looks very much like it is in Africa.
Dec 19, 2015, 4:39 am
#814
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: KYE
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Yes, the next agent I got found the Air Nostrum flight I wanted, and was bookable. But interestingly, MLN is not considered Europe, even though it is Spanish territory. The booking was considered going into the another continent. No arguments, it looks very much like it is in Africa.
Dec 19, 2015, 6:11 am
#815
Join Date: Jan 2012
Programs: AY+ Plat, Marriott Plat, Hyatt Discoverist
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Anyone have tips on redeeming in First Class DFW to LED and then RIX back to DFW in March? Could also settle for business if needed. Just trying to avoid BA fuel surcharges on a transcon. All I'm finding on Qantas is a bunch of mixed cabins, and AA is trying to force me to use BA.
On the return, you'd have to do RIX-HEL-LHR on AY or AY/BA mix, and then LHR-US on AA.
If you're willing to do business, then AY across the pond becomes an option, as well as more AA options.
AA has first on DFW/JFK/ORD/MIA-LHR. AA also flies RDU/PHL/CLT-LHR, but the highest cabin is business.
AY flies JFK/ORD/MIA-HEL. Note that AA has been showing a lot of phantom space on AY lately.
Dec 19, 2015, 8:48 am
#816
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: PHX
Programs: AA PRO
Posts: 352
Quote:
Originally Posted by LukeO9
Thats what I want to here.....calling again now....
Yes, the next agent I got found the Air Nostrum flight I wanted, and was bookable. But interestingly, MLN is not considered Europe, even though it is Spanish territory. The booking was considered going into the another continent. No arguments, it looks very much like it is in Africa.
Originally Posted by LukeO9
Thats what I want to here.....calling again now....
Yes, the next agent I got found the Air Nostrum flight I wanted, and was bookable. But interestingly, MLN is not considered Europe, even though it is Spanish territory. The booking was considered going into the another continent. No arguments, it looks very much like it is in Africa.
I did go to Melilla once for the day as well. I was able to get a cheap round trip ticket for something like €150. Even though it is politically part of mainland Spain, it is definitely physically in Africa. So what the agent says makes sense.
Makes me wonder how they treat the Canary Islands for award ticket bookings.
Dec 19, 2015, 9:02 am
#817
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I have tried similar but also being told 2 awards. My attempt was ZAG-DOH-DXB-SYD with the DXB-SYD on QF. Nope, has to be ZAG-DOH-SYD in order to be one award. Also got shot down by going DOH to AUH then AUH-SYD on EY. Apparently the QR to QR, both segments must be the longer segments in the award, cannot be a short segment like your DOH-VIE, but a DOH-PHL then onto DEN should be one award.
Dec 19, 2015, 9:07 am
#818
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: SF Bay Area
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Dec 19, 2015, 9:44 am
#819
Join Date: Jun 2006
Programs: AA Ex Plt
Posts: 474
Edit: I see that they're Europe (https://www.aa.com/i18n/AAdvantage/r...tner-chart.jsp)
Last edited by Animgif; Dec 19, 2015 at 9:52 am
Dec 19, 2015, 10:49 am
#820
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Note that MAD-MLN could be had for just 4,500 Avios one-way in Coach. 
Originally Posted by LukeO9
Yes, the next agent I got found the Air Nostrum flight I wanted, and was bookable. But interestingly, MLN is not considered Europe, even though it is Spanish territory. The booking was considered going into the another continent. No arguments, it looks very much like it is in Africa.
Dec 19, 2015, 10:49 am
#821
Join Date: Dec 2007
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Dec 19, 2015, 3:34 pm
#822
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: USA
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Your only option for first without high fuel surcharges is going through LHR on AA metal. You could then do LHR-HEL-LED, although the fees for the nonstop on BA shouldn't be that high. Note that HEL-LED may be all-economy.
On the return, you'd have to do RIX-HEL-LHR on AY or AY/BA mix, and then LHR-US on AA.
If you're willing to do business, then AY across the pond becomes an option, as well as more AA options.
AA has first on DFW/JFK/ORD/MIA-LHR. AA also flies RDU/PHL/CLT-LHR, but the highest cabin is business.
AY flies JFK/ORD/MIA-HEL. Note that AA has been showing a lot of phantom space on AY lately.
On the return, you'd have to do RIX-HEL-LHR on AY or AY/BA mix, and then LHR-US on AA.
If you're willing to do business, then AY across the pond becomes an option, as well as more AA options.
AA has first on DFW/JFK/ORD/MIA-LHR. AA also flies RDU/PHL/CLT-LHR, but the highest cabin is business.
AY flies JFK/ORD/MIA-HEL. Note that AA has been showing a lot of phantom space on AY lately.
Dec 19, 2015, 3:48 pm
#823
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That's really helpful, thank you! I see some Z space on AA out to LHR so will probably jump on one of those. As far as then connecting via LHR-HEL-LED, can that be done as one award? e.g. DFW-LHR-HEL-LED? Or would I be limited to a single gateway city and need to book more like DFW-LHR-HEL as one award and a separate one for HEL-LED?
Dec 19, 2015, 4:00 pm
#824
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Good question. BA has a thru fare for DFW-LHR-HEL-LED but I don't find one for AA. AA metal DFW-LHR may break this into two awards.
When AA is the over-water carrier, the usual requirement of a published through-fare has typically not applied.
YMMV.
Originally Posted by 3Cforme
That's really helpful, thank you! I see some Z space on AA out to LHR so will probably jump on one of those. As far as then connecting via LHR-HEL-LED, can that be done as one award? e.g. DFW-LHR-HEL-LED? Or would I be limited to a single gateway city and need to book more like DFW-LHR-HEL as one award and a separate one for HEL-LED?
YMMV.
Dec 19, 2015, 4:01 pm
#825
Join Date: Jan 2012
Programs: AY+ Plat, Marriott Plat, Hyatt Discoverist
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That's really helpful, thank you! I see some Z space on AA out to LHR so will probably jump on one of those. As far as then connecting via LHR-HEL-LED, can that be done as one award? e.g. DFW-LHR-HEL-LED? Or would I be limited to a single gateway city and need to book more like DFW-LHR-HEL as one award and a separate one for HEL-LED?