Empty First Class Seats
Feb 26, 2019 | 12:14 pm
#91
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 248
I know my use FWA to DFW has pretty much dropped off. I'm not using them on that trip anymore, it's just not worth it. I save them for when my wife and I are on a comp segment for me, she has no status, and I use them to get her the upgrade, on the rare times it clears. For me, even the CRJ7/9 MCE seats aren't that much worse than the F seats for 2 hours. Sorry the addition of a snack basket doesn't do much for me.
Jun 7, 2019 | 5:59 pm
#92
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Last Sunday I took the 9:36 AM LGA-PHL. The E75 had four empty F seats with no one on the upgrade list.
Aug 28, 2019 | 4:53 pm
#94
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 129
Related question. On a transcon LAX-JFK earlier this week (3 classes F,J,Y), I got upgraded Y to J about 48 hrs out, however at the gate I got upgraded to F. Much to my surprise, as I have never seen that before. Is that normal? I thought an upgrade to one class above paid class would be the max?
not aware that there was an oversell situation.
not aware that there was an oversell situation.
Aug 28, 2019 | 4:59 pm
#95
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Related question. On a transcon LAX-JFK earlier this week (3 classes F,J,Y), I got upgraded Y to J about 48 hrs out, however at the gate I got upgraded to F. Much to my surprise, as I have never seen that before. Is that normal? I thought an upgrade to one class above paid class would be the max?
not aware that there was an oversell situation.
not aware that there was an oversell situation.
Aug 28, 2019 | 5:04 pm
#96
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: The FT AA forum, until it no longer wants me.
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Posts: 1,913
Related question. On a transcon LAX-JFK earlier this week (3 classes F,J,Y), I got upgraded Y to J about 48 hrs out, however at the gate I got upgraded to F. Much to my surprise, as I have never seen that before. Is that normal? I thought an upgrade to one class above paid class would be the max?
not aware that there was an oversell situation.
not aware that there was an oversell situation.
Aug 28, 2019 | 5:26 pm
#97
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 129
Thanks for confirming. Next time I'll be even more grateful if it happens!
I do find the normal policy a little strange though. I remember on another date, same flight: 2/10 of F occupied, J completely full, very long upgrade list which must all have been Y to J.
Feels like AA could make more customers happy and at the same time convert some 500 mile stamps or even a systemwide without taking away any revenue potential, since it's gate upgrades...
I do find the normal policy a little strange though. I remember on another date, same flight: 2/10 of F occupied, J completely full, very long upgrade list which must all have been Y to J.
Feels like AA could make more customers happy and at the same time convert some 500 mile stamps or even a systemwide without taking away any revenue potential, since it's gate upgrades...
Aug 28, 2019 | 6:48 pm
#98
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Los Angeles
Programs: AA LT Gold
Posts: 3,776
AA is not about that.
AA is about making money.
AA can proactively sell for cash upgrades to F (to either non-elites or elites sitting in J with no desire to use an upgrade instrument available to them)
AA can slash F prices
AA can downsize the F cabin.
What you and others propose (roll up just because) will never happen.
AA is about making money.
AA can proactively sell for cash upgrades to F (to either non-elites or elites sitting in J with no desire to use an upgrade instrument available to them)
AA can slash F prices
AA can downsize the F cabin.
What you and others propose (roll up just because) will never happen.
Aug 28, 2019 | 7:06 pm
#99
Join Date: Aug 2012
Programs: AA PLT, SPG Gold
Posts: 2,441
Thanks for confirming. Next time I'll be even more grateful if it happens!
I do find the normal policy a little strange though. I remember on another date, same flight: 2/10 of F occupied, J completely full, very long upgrade list which must all have been Y to J.
Feels like AA could make more customers happy and at the same time convert some 500 mile stamps or even a systemwide without taking away any revenue potential, since it's gate upgrades...
I do find the normal policy a little strange though. I remember on another date, same flight: 2/10 of F occupied, J completely full, very long upgrade list which must all have been Y to J.
Feels like AA could make more customers happy and at the same time convert some 500 mile stamps or even a systemwide without taking away any revenue potential, since it's gate upgrades...
Aug 29, 2019 | 7:09 am
#100
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: UK
Programs: BAC Silver
Posts: 732
AA is not about that.
AA is about making money.
AA can proactively sell for cash upgrades to F (to either non-elites or elites sitting in J with no desire to use an upgrade instrument available to them)
AA can slash F prices
AA can downsize the F cabin.
What you and others propose (roll up just because) will never happen.
AA is about making money.
AA can proactively sell for cash upgrades to F (to either non-elites or elites sitting in J with no desire to use an upgrade instrument available to them)
AA can slash F prices
AA can downsize the F cabin.
What you and others propose (roll up just because) will never happen.
Aug 29, 2019 | 7:37 am
#101
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Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: NYC
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Of course, there is no "right" answer about what the airline *should* do, and whether AA should give preferential treatment to nonrevs listing for F or for Y pax trying to upgrade into J. But AA has made its decision. Probably won't stop us from debating it for the next decade though!
Aug 30, 2019 | 7:22 am
#102
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: DL: Gold; BA: Silver; AA: PLAT PRO; UA: Silver; HY: Globalist; HH: Gold; MR: TIT
Programs: PHL (& occasionally EWR/LGA/JFK)
Posts: 1,727
Thanks for confirming. Next time I'll be even more grateful if it happens!
I do find the normal policy a little strange though. I remember on another date, same flight: 2/10 of F occupied, J completely full, very long upgrade list which must all have been Y to J.
Feels like AA could make more customers happy and at the same time convert some 500 mile stamps or even a systemwide without taking away any revenue potential, since it's gate upgrades...
I do find the normal policy a little strange though. I remember on another date, same flight: 2/10 of F occupied, J completely full, very long upgrade list which must all have been Y to J.
Feels like AA could make more customers happy and at the same time convert some 500 mile stamps or even a systemwide without taking away any revenue potential, since it's gate upgrades...
Aug 30, 2019 | 8:10 am
#103
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Location: NYC
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Aug 30, 2019 | 12:12 pm
#104
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: DCA/IAD/WAS
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Posts: 2,169
Aug 30, 2019 | 2:26 pm
#105
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: DL: Gold; BA: Silver; AA: PLAT PRO; UA: Silver; HY: Globalist; HH: Gold; MR: TIT
Programs: PHL (& occasionally EWR/LGA/JFK)
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2 of the 3 options for upgrading are still allowed for J to F -- mileage (+ copay if in I class), and SWU. Why aren't you bicheing about not being able to use stickers on international flights? They treat these flights pretty much like international flights. Give it a rest!
On a broader note, why are those who dare to criticize AA always being silenced/mocked! I will give it a rest when this travesty of a policy is fixed!