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Old Nov 8, 18, 10:02 am
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Empty First Class Seats

Good Morning All,
If after the upgrade list has been exhausted and there are still empty seats in first class, will American typically upgrade elite members based on proper ranking order without having to burn 500 mile upgrades or will they simply let the flight go out with empty seats in F?
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Old Nov 8, 18, 10:04 am
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They'll fill in any non-revs, but they aren't going to roll up economy passengers (without using upgrade instruments) unless economy is oversold.
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Old Nov 8, 18, 10:04 am
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F will go out with empty seats
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Old Nov 8, 18, 10:09 am
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Indeed interesting. Thanks all, much appreciated!

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Old Nov 8, 18, 10:11 am
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If AA upgraded PLTs and GLDs into empty F seats there would be far less incentive to buy stickers at $40 per 500 miles.
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Old Nov 8, 18, 10:15 am
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Originally Posted by newyorkgeorge View Post
If AA upgraded PLTs and GLDs into empty F seats there would be far less incentive to buy stickers at $40 per 500 miles.
It's all about the $ at AA.
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Old Nov 8, 18, 10:23 am
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I had been on domestic flights with empty F seats (but not lately). Best time to find a flight with empty F seats is last flight on a Saturday night. You might also get one on an RJ that has 12 F seats at off peak times.

With most flights full, non-rev'ers know the flights that are not going to be full (in coach or F) so they choose these flights.
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Old Nov 8, 18, 10:30 am
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Originally Posted by cova View Post
I had been on domestic flights with empty F seats (but not lately). Best time to find a flight with empty F seats is last flight on a Saturday night. You might also get one on an RJ that has 12 F seats at off peak times.

With most flights full, non-rev'ers know the flights that are not going to be full (in coach or F) so they choose these flights.
Makes since. My two home airports (virtually the same distance from each other) have RJ aircraft and I am usually consistently upgraded with the 500 mile complimentary into DFW. When leaving JAX heading home on a Friday, its hit or miss. Didn't want to end up burning or buying stickers if I didn't necessary need to but it looks like that's want AA wants you to, understandably so...
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If there are empty seats in First at check in and the upgrade list has been cleared, there will be an option to buy an upgrade at check in.
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If there are empty seats in First at check in and the upgrade list has been cleared, there will be an option to buy an upgrade at check in.
This.

The last sensible thing to do is to sell UG's via sticker and then do them for free for the same people.

OPUP's to prevent an overbooked Y cabin from oversell are a different story, but that's the case on international flights where there are no freebies either.
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Old Nov 8, 18, 10:59 am
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Originally Posted by freeagent View Post
If there are empty seats in First at check in and the upgrade list has been cleared, there will be an option to buy an upgrade at check in.
And this is for non elites as well. I believe typically it will be higher than $40 per 500 miles. Years back I remember LUS selling upgrades at the gate.
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Originally Posted by enviroian View Post
cash is king for cheapo-Parker. Remember, he'll never lose money again.
It's a for-profit business run for the benefit of its shareholders. Bashing the CEO by name is a popular FT thing, but not in the real world, where generating revenue is a good thing.
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It's a for-profit business run for the benefit of its shareholders. Bashing the CEO by name is a popular FT thing, but not in the real world, where generating revenue is a good thing.
Not to mention the use of stickers for GLDs and PLTs came from the LAA side of the business, or pre-Parker.
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