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Old Dec 17, 2017, 12:15 pm
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Chances of Upgrade Request Clearing
NOTE: Be aware of recent (20 May 2017) upgrade priority changes.

"New Upgrade Priority as of 20 May 2017

(Upgrades were prioritized by elite status and then time of request until 20 May 2017)
  • Elite status
    1. Concierge Key
      • Executive Platinum
        • Platinum Pro
          • Platinum
            • Gold
    • Upgrade type
      1. Miles and copay award upgrades and systemwide upgrades (SWU)
        • 500 mile upgrades on purchased tickets
          • 500 mile upgrades on upgrade eligible awards)

      • Elite qualifying dollars in the past 12 months
        • Booking class
          • Time of request"


See Upgrade Priority Changes to Status, Rolling 365 Day EQD Spend May 20 2017

Link to Gary Leff, View From the Wing 16 May 2017

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Old Aug 30, 2018 | 6:11 pm
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Originally Posted by ORDPLATAA
Flying PHL-CDG on 9/1. EXP+1, paid Premium Economy with rolling EQD in the mid-$8K range. Returning 9/9 AMS-DFW again in paid Premium Economy and now my EQD's should be in the $9K range. Thoughts?
PHL-CDG is down to J2 and AMS-DFW is J3, so on the surface your chances don't look great. That said, a Saturday flight on a holiday weekend isn't likely to have lots of last minute paid business travel, so I wouldn't give up yet.

For the return, AMS-PHL is C4, so if you wanted to switch you could confirm the upgrades immediately. Depending on fares you could possibly downgrade that from PE to normal economy to offset some/all of the change fee.
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Old Aug 30, 2018 | 9:43 pm
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Originally Posted by miadukes
So just wanted to update that sitting here in first and there is an amenity kit, might be an older one, it's got the green trim.
I got the same green trim amenity kit on my Monday night flight LAX-HNL. I found it stowed in the seatback pocket next to the chocolate chip cookies. Incoming flight was MIA-LAX which would explain why it was there. Also to note, 9 FC seats went out empty on Wednesday night (AA144), outbound (AA2205) on Monday upgrade cleared at T100.
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Old Aug 31, 2018 | 5:37 am
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Originally Posted by PHX_Flyer
I got the same green trim amenity kit on my Monday night flight LAX-HNL. I found it stowed in the seatback pocket next to the chocolate chip cookies. Incoming flight was MIA-LAX which would explain why it was there. Also to note, 9 FC seats went out empty on Wednesday night (AA144), outbound (AA2205) on Monday upgrade cleared at T100.
So was it just in your seat or in all of them?? I had that same leg, MIA-LAX ( but in Y) and everyone on my LAX-HNL had the kit, I can't imagine that it was just forgotten from the last one but maybe they all were
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Old Aug 31, 2018 | 8:11 am
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Question here. I have a flight out from JFK to MXP on Sep 8 and I've put myself on the copay + miles upgrade list. I'm 8 days out from flying. There looks to still be 21 seats open still (including 1 blocked seat). When do they typically start releasing seats for upgrades? I can see that milesaver for business is not available.
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Old Aug 31, 2018 | 8:15 am
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Originally Posted by JJeffrey
PHL-CDG is down to J2 and AMS-DFW is J3, so on the surface your chances don't look great. That said, a Saturday flight on a holiday weekend isn't likely to have lots of last minute paid business travel, so I wouldn't give up yet.

For the return, AMS-PHL is C4, so if you wanted to switch you could confirm the upgrades immediately. Depending on fares you could possibly downgrade that from PE to normal economy to offset some/all of the change fee.
Thanks - we did actually change AMS-DFW-ORD to AMS-PHL-ORD. With the downgrade from PE to Y, the fare dropped $177 per person. Our tickets had a $275 change fee so the net is it cost us $98 per person to upgrade to J. Not too bad at all! Looked at trying to get on ORD-DFW-CDG as some of the EF listings show C3 on the DFW-CDG flights but EXP Desk says no, EF is wrong. Looks like PHL-CDG just went to J1 so don't think it will happen tomorrow - so we'll be in PE on that leg.

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Old Aug 31, 2018 | 8:24 am
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Originally Posted by tphuang
Question here. I have a flight out from JFK to MXP on Sep 8 and I've put myself on the copay + miles upgrade list. I'm 8 days out from flying. There looks to still be 21 seats open still (including 1 blocked seat). When do they typically start releasing seats for upgrades? I can see that milesaver for business is not available.
For a flight that empty, it typically starts around a week out, so anytime now. I flew MIA-MXP in April, equally as empty business cabin, and both ways upgrades didn't clear till 1-2 days before.
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Old Aug 31, 2018 | 11:08 am
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Originally Posted by ORDPLATAA
Looked at trying to get on ORD-DFW-CDG as some of the EF listings show C3 on the DFW-CDG flights but EXP Desk says no, EF is wrong.
Push them hard on this or HUCA. I remember countless times during IRROPS where I saw J1 on EF (in real time, not via email alert) and the agent said "no, I don't see availability. It's all sold out." I found they are often looking at the wrong date, wrong flight, wrong airport, etc. Sometimes they are searching LGA instead of JFK, or vice-versa, they are searching your return flight instead of your outbound, etc. Once you clarify the specifics, they finally see it. If you see real-time availability on EF and your agent is not processing the award or ticket, I'd recommend calling back with another agent.
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Old Aug 31, 2018 | 11:59 am
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Originally Posted by miadukes
So was it just in your seat or in all of them?? I had that same leg, MIA-LAX ( but in Y) and everyone on my LAX-HNL had the kit, I can't imagine that it was just forgotten from the last one but maybe they all were
Just my seat from what I could tell.
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Old Aug 31, 2018 | 12:57 pm
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Originally Posted by tphuang
Question here. I have a flight out from JFK to MXP on Sep 8 and I've put myself on the copay + miles upgrade list. I'm 8 days out from flying. There looks to still be 21 seats open still (including 1 blocked seat). When do they typically start releasing seats for upgrades? I can see that milesaver for business is not available.
According to EF, there are 20 seats open in J, no C inventory yet. Get yourself an EF account and set an alert when C opens up so you can call in and get upgraded.
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Old Aug 31, 2018 | 5:15 pm
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Was surprised to find C7 and A6 (if I remember correctly) a day or two out on AA135 LHR-LAX this afternoon. Since I was on a business fare that didn't require a copay, I sprung for the miles upgrade to F and am certainly enjoying my flight in 2A. I had assumed this was a busier route and didn't expect that much upgrade availability.
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Old Aug 31, 2018 | 5:42 pm
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Originally Posted by LAXmatt
Was surprised to find C7 and A6 (if I remember correctly) a day or two out on AA135 LHR-LAX this afternoon. Since I was on a business fare that didn't require a copay, I sprung for the miles upgrade to F and am certainly enjoying my flight in 2A. I had assumed this was a busier route and didn't expect that much upgrade availability.
I saw that many of the JFK-LHR flights had C buckets open for the next couple of days.
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Old Aug 31, 2018 | 6:36 pm
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Originally Posted by LAXmatt
Was surprised to find C7 and A6 (if I remember correctly) a day or two out on AA135 LHR-LAX this afternoon. Since I was on a business fare that didn't require a copay, I sprung for the miles upgrade to F and am certainly enjoying my flight in 2A. I had assumed this was a busier route and didn't expect that much upgrade availability.
Originally Posted by FlightNurse
I saw that many of the JFK-LHR flights had C buckets open for the next couple of days.
Holiday weeks = much less normal business travel = lots of upgrade inventory
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Old Aug 31, 2018 | 9:43 pm
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Originally Posted by MSP_Monopoly
How are flights on Christmas (25th)? Is F typically full on this date or do I have a shot at an upgrade on the redeye from LAS to MIA?
The Patented Up-Check App puts the odds at 4.29%
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Old Sep 1, 2018 | 12:21 am
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Originally Posted by LAXmatt
Was surprised to find C7 and A6 (if I remember correctly) a day or two out on AA135 LHR-LAX this afternoon.
Very rare to see C7 A6 on LHR-LAX - guess you got lucky! In my experience, It's usually F0 J1 a day or so before flight.
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Old Sep 1, 2018 | 1:41 am
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Award UG

I'm a bit confused as to the order and scanned a few pages of this thread. Can someone clarify the prioroty: As an EXP does an award ticket get upgraded after all paid tickets (Exp Pp... Gold) or after the Exp paid tickets? If the former it seems quite rare.
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