Baby Stroller Incident on AA591 SFO>DFW April 21st
Apr 22, 2017, 3:23 pm
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I didn't realize this mother was the very first mother to have carry on items gate checked. I have been on a few flights which had involuntary gate check when the bins were full.
The male crew member should have been removed because he escalated the situation with the male passenger. I wouldn't have objected if both were removed from the flight.
Apr 22, 2017, 3:23 pm
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Apr 22, 2017, 3:23 pm
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This is a collision of many things: bag fees, on time pressure, cranky consumers, terrible coach seats made for little people, and I'm sure there is more I'm not thinking of. Overall, the flying experience is just an awful and stressful event. Try traveling with two little ones alone, international. W/o getting into the details, things like this are bound to happen in the current messed up environment. Really disappointing the hardline 'flyertalk' crowd takes the side of AA and some even call the Mom an 'idiot'.
Just watch, there will be more 'incidents' in the coming weeks/months.
Just watch, there will be more 'incidents' in the coming weeks/months.
Apr 22, 2017, 3:30 pm
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The difference to their recent incidence is that they called LEOs to handle a dispute instead of trying to gain personal satisfaction out of the physical abuse of other people. But you are correct in that this difference will go away as they will stop this practice and have their crews try to resolve disputes. God bless those planes and the people in them....
Apr 22, 2017, 3:30 pm
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The wonan's travel party was entitled to more than one bag plus one personal item.
Gate-checked car seats do get dropped. Compared to carries-on car seats, dropped car seats may not be as structurally robust in case of a car accident after the airline drops it (repeatedly).
Was 2F a FAM?
Gate-checked car seats do get dropped. Compared to carries-on car seats, dropped car seats may not be as structurally robust in case of a car accident after the airline drops it (repeatedly).
Was 2F a FAM?
Apr 22, 2017, 3:32 pm
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Apr 22, 2017, 3:35 pm
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Apr 22, 2017, 3:38 pm
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Apr 22, 2017, 3:41 pm
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Apr 22, 2017, 3:44 pm
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I always thought families with small children were the first ones to board. I don't see how that many people were on the plane already that the OHB were already filled.
Apr 22, 2017, 3:54 pm
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Definitely agree here. I'm surprised the male FA didn't have the male pax arrested (or at least removed) for threatening to assault him.
Threatening to, "knock [him] silly," sure seems like intimidation to me.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/49/46504
I'm guessing the male FA was the one that AA removed from service early this morning for attempting to goad the male pax into hitting him. That's the only wrongdoing on AA's part here IMO.
Anyway, when is the boycott? Hopefully everyone faux outraged decides to cancel their award reservations so others can have some sAAver awards.
Threatening to, "knock [him] silly," sure seems like intimidation to me.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/49/46504
I'm guessing the male FA was the one that AA removed from service early this morning for attempting to goad the male pax into hitting him. That's the only wrongdoing on AA's part here IMO.
Anyway, when is the boycott? Hopefully everyone faux outraged decides to cancel their award reservations so others can have some sAAver awards.
Apr 22, 2017, 4:00 pm
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My last several AA flights this month got AA elites and military boarding before infants/toddlers on my same flights. Can't say I'm a fan of this, but that is how it often goes when flying AA too.
Apr 22, 2017, 4:02 pm
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The wonan's travel party was entitled to more than one bag plus one personal item.
Gate-checked car seats do get dropped. Compared to carries-on car seats, dropped car seats may not be as structurally robust in case of a car accident after the airline drops it (repeatedly).
Was 2F a FAM?
Gate-checked car seats do get dropped. Compared to carries-on car seats, dropped car seats may not be as structurally robust in case of a car accident after the airline drops it (repeatedly).
Was 2F a FAM?
Apr 22, 2017, 4:04 pm
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However the woman is not entitled to three check-in items if she bought two tickets : the huge backpack, the car seat and the stroller. I don't know where the car seat is in the video I saw, but the eyewitness accounts of the interaction indicated one child was in a car seat when she started refusing to relinquish the stroller.
She had three tickets, as even with two the devil is in the details.
In other words, I wouldn't be so certain that you're claim above is right.
FAA-approved car seat for a ticketed and seated infant doesn't count against the cabin baggage allowance limit of "one cabin bag + one personal item".
From what I can see, and even including the car seat, there doesn't seem to be an excessive cabin baggage item limit hit by this female passenger's travel party.
Apr 22, 2017, 4:04 pm
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Air marshal in window seat? Notta chance.