ARCHIVE: AA Awards on Cathay Pacific (2016)
#1111
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 4,166
When using Award Nexus to setup email alerts for a HKG-JFK CX flight, what time should I run the search? Early morning in North America, Europe, or Asia? Or does it not matter because AA loads the award seats at different times each day?
#1112
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2014
Programs: Top Tier with all 3 alliances
Posts: 11,832
So here is one concern hoping to secure an award in the days before the actual flight. My understanding is that the long haul international leg may open up, but I seriously doubt it that the regional leg will (regional legs may follow different patterns). So, you may get that F seat NYC-HKG, but then you will be stuck in HKG because the regional leg HKG-BKK won't open up. That's my concern.
#1113
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 2,731
For long-term monitoring, my experience has been that it doesn't matter too much. I have seen CX awards released at different times. I'd just check at a time that is convenient for you to take action on, such as the morning of your own continent.
#1114
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 2,731
So here is one concern hoping to secure an award in the days before the actual flight. My understanding is that the long haul international leg may open up, but I seriously doubt it that the regional leg will (regional legs may follow different patterns). So, you may get that F seat NYC-HKG, but then you will be stuck in HKG because the regional leg HKG-BKK won't open up. That's my concern.
#1115
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Join Date: Aug 2014
Programs: Top Tier with all 3 alliances
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Theoretically yes that is a concern, but from my experience booking CX awards in the last few years, CX regional short-hauls (especially TPE and PVG) are fairly available. BKK is somewhat less so, but they still tend to be available with a longer layover. Plus, you can always take a downgrade to economy, which is another strategy to complete the booking.
#1116
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 2,731
The longer regional flights such as BKK tend to be trickier. I think PEN was tight two weeks in, when I was booking it three years ago. No experience with KUL or SIN.
#1117
No one ever needed to worry about locking in a price prior to our current situation. The devaluation coupled with CX somewhat reducing available award inventory has put high pressure on what is out there. Previously, EXP could book and cancel willy nilly without regard to fees (or carrier or cost in miles) and other flyers could lock in something around their desired date and fiddle with it fee free. Now, EVERYONE needs to lock in a price for some time in the future by the same deadline. Since the above has led to almost everything having been spoken for, leaving only close-in flights being available, this method is kind of the last ditch way to take advantage of the low rates.
Basically, in my opinion, no one needed to think about these kind of things due to the pretty generous nature of AA's change rules and associated CX award availability.
Basically, in my opinion, no one needed to think about these kind of things due to the pretty generous nature of AA's change rules and associated CX award availability.
1) Theoretically, it should work as long as the miles are not redeposited and we use the ticket number and have it exchanged for a new PNR in the future, but not 100% sure this will work (therefore this should be last resort as iadisgreat says)
2) The only 100% sure "placeholder" is a booked award and changing the date/routing keeping the O/D the same. Changes to origin country, and dropping segments etc, we are not 100% sure what will happen (but likely will not be allowed without reprice).
#1118
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: NYC//TLV
Programs: DL-PM; Marriott-Plat; SPG (soon RIP) - Plat, and e/t connected to AMEX Plat
Posts: 112
If it is only CX you are monitoring for, the time varies (I have had success at 11 am EST and also at 3 pm EST - both times having called several other times on the same day and being told the calendar wasn't open yet). For JL, the awards load at t-330 10 am JST, I'm sure other carriers have different times as well.
#1119
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: NYC//TLV
Programs: DL-PM; Marriott-Plat; SPG (soon RIP) - Plat, and e/t connected to AMEX Plat
Posts: 112
Ok-- so just to make sure I understand re: close-in booking then cancel but NOT redeposit placeholder:
1) Theoretically, it should work as long as the miles are not redeposited and we use the ticket number and have it exchanged for a new PNR in the future, but not 100% sure this will work (therefore this should be last resort as iadisgreat says)
1) Theoretically, it should work as long as the miles are not redeposited and we use the ticket number and have it exchanged for a new PNR in the future, but not 100% sure this will work (therefore this should be last resort as iadisgreat says)
#1120
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: New York, NY
Programs: AA Platinum Pro
Posts: 57
Ok-- so just to make sure I understand re: close-in booking then cancel but NOT redeposit placeholder:
1) Theoretically, it should work as long as the miles are not redeposited and we use the ticket number and have it exchanged for a new PNR in the future, but not 100% sure this will work (therefore this should be last resort as iadisgreat says)
1) Theoretically, it should work as long as the miles are not redeposited and we use the ticket number and have it exchanged for a new PNR in the future, but not 100% sure this will work (therefore this should be last resort as iadisgreat says)
#1121
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 4,166
If it is only CX you are monitoring for, the time varies (I have had success at 11 am EST and also at 3 pm EST - both times having called several other times on the same day and being told the calendar wasn't open yet). For JL, the awards load at t-330 10 am JST, I'm sure other carriers have different times as well.
#1122
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Atl, GA
Programs: AA EP, HH Diamond, Marriott Plat
Posts: 127
Just made my first ever combined CX/AA award booking and was charged $92.50/person for taxes and fees, is this right?
1 way booking from ATL->CLT->JFK->HKG->PVG.
1 way booking from ATL->CLT->JFK->HKG->PVG.
#1123
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 181
Call and see if they charged you for the phone booking? Which they should refund
Last edited by sempervivum; Mar 15, 2016 at 6:14 pm Reason: update
#1124
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 4,166
I had similar fees for DUS-HKG and also HKG-JFK recently too.