Mixed cabin / class award issues, questions, discussion
Nov 24, 2018, 4:26 pm
#151
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I am looking for flights to Oz/Nz, good way to use my miles.
The option below pops up . AA is offering 110k miles for a First MIlesaaver seat, but it is coach for the SYD-DFW leg. Is this a glitch or this a fair use of my miles?
QF 7 12:35 PM SYD 1:00 PM DFW
Qantas Seat information not available Meal: Lunch Aircraft: 388 Booking Code: X Class: Economy
AA1472 FRI APR 19
8:55 AM DFW 9:57 AM ONT
American Airlines View Available Seats Meal: Breakfast Aircraft: 738 Opens in a new windowBooking Code: U
Total travel time: 38hr 22minClass: First
The option below pops up . AA is offering 110k miles for a First MIlesaaver seat, but it is coach for the SYD-DFW leg. Is this a glitch or this a fair use of my miles?
QF 7 12:35 PM SYD 1:00 PM DFW
Qantas Seat information not available Meal: Lunch Aircraft: 388 Booking Code: X Class: Economy
AA1472 FRI APR 19
8:55 AM DFW 9:57 AM ONT
American Airlines View Available Seats Meal: Breakfast Aircraft: 738 Opens in a new windowBooking Code: U
Total travel time: 38hr 22minClass: First
What you are being shown is not unusual or new. You just need to be careful
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Nov 24, 2018, 4:52 pm
#152
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Seems like 110k miles for a long haul coach seat is just being brushed off as business per usual.
I think it is complete garbage that AA has not fixed this gouge and I am confused why people act like its not a big deal. What is worse, being complacent or inept?
If this 110K Coach seat offer has been known for a long time, why is it still accepted as fair trade?
FWIW- I am an AA loyalist, 1MM, EXP by end of year. I did not come in here trolling.
I think it is complete garbage that AA has not fixed this gouge and I am confused why people act like its not a big deal. What is worse, being complacent or inept?
If this 110K Coach seat offer has been known for a long time, why is it still accepted as fair trade?
FWIW- I am an AA loyalist, 1MM, EXP by end of year. I did not come in here trolling.
Nov 24, 2018, 4:59 pm
#153
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They are offering a product at a price. It's up to you to decide whether or not to accept it. I'm regularly offered products and services I think are overpriced (and don't purchase as a result), but am puzzled how "fairness" is supposed to factor into it.
Nov 24, 2018, 5:02 pm
#154
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Good point. Poor use of words.
Nov 24, 2018, 5:06 pm
#155
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Seems like 110k miles for a long haul coach seat is just being brushed off as business per usual.
I think it is complete garbage that AA has not fixed this gouge and I am confused why people act like its not a big deal. What is worse, being complacent or inept?
If this 110K Coach seat offer has been known for a long time, why is it still accepted as fair trade?
FWIW- I am an AA loyalist, 1MM, EXP by end of year. I did not come in here trolling.
I think it is complete garbage that AA has not fixed this gouge and I am confused why people act like its not a big deal. What is worse, being complacent or inept?
If this 110K Coach seat offer has been known for a long time, why is it still accepted as fair trade?
FWIW- I am an AA loyalist, 1MM, EXP by end of year. I did not come in here trolling.
Nov 24, 2018, 5:57 pm
#157
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What is being offered is valid - just that many , I suspect, would not think of it as being a good use of miles
I don't know what those people who AA would class as very important think of it - Holding EP status doesn't make one important
I am not sure what the complaint is - what is offered is valid , just a poor use of miles
I don't know what you want to debate - there is no complaceny or ineptitude - just a fare offered
Last edited by Dave Noble; Nov 24, 2018 at 6:02 pm
Nov 24, 2018, 5:58 pm
#158
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What's your solution? Stop displaying mixed cabin awards?
What happens if there's a leg of of your itinerary on an RJ with no First cabin? Or if no F is available on the smaller, connector, segment but is on the int'l one?
Would you rather that AA not display these?
Nothing wrong with some mixed cabin awards - they open up more options for redemption.
Some will be poor value, like your example, but certainly not all of them are!
What happens if there's a leg of of your itinerary on an RJ with no First cabin? Or if no F is available on the smaller, connector, segment but is on the int'l one?
Would you rather that AA not display these?
Nothing wrong with some mixed cabin awards - they open up more options for redemption.
Some will be poor value, like your example, but certainly not all of them are!
Nov 24, 2018, 5:58 pm
#159
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Not to mention I've used mixed-cabin awards to my advantage -- essentially guaranteeing myself a F seat on one leg while I wait for F inventory to open up on the other. Not on anything as extreme as these ridiculous Australia awards, but I definitely prefer the inconvenience of the current system to the previous one, where mixed-cabin itineraries were impossible (where I was blocked from a premium SFO-LAX-LHR award if the first leg didn't have F/J, for instance).
Nov 24, 2018, 6:09 pm
#161
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Nov 24, 2018, 7:08 pm
#163
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Not surprising, but it is neither a glitch in AA's eyes (since they're shady and some legs are "F") nor a fair use of your miles (since the SYD-DFW in coach would only be 40k saver or 70k anytime).
Nov 24, 2018, 7:20 pm
#164
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But ultimately, it's up to each individual to decide whether or not a given itinerary is worth the price.