Apr 30, 2015, 10:42 pm
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Los Angeles International Airport - Tom Bradley International Terminal oneworld Lounges
Location: Go airside via the North security check. Continue past the SkyTeam marked elevator / lift past the Star Alliance lounge signage and escalators to the main shops area and take the elevator to the oneworld Lounge on floor 5. (LAX / LAWA now allows passengers with same day departing boarding passes multi-terminal access.)
See AA T-4 - LAX TBIT secure airside connector open 25 Feb 2016 for airside access via the secure airside connector.
Qantas International First Lounge
Open daily: 06:30 - 23:30[currently closed] QF F Lounge has REOPENED as of SEP 2022.
Amenities:
Computer connected to Internet
Neil Perry dining and buffet (hot, cold, food carts)
Full staffed bar and made to order mixed drinks
Barista and coffee selections
Shower suites (7)
Access rules:
Traveling on a oneworld marketed and operated first departing in, or connecting from, first class on a oneworld international flight of over 5 hours,
or
traveling in first class on a three-class domestic flight
or
a oneworld Emerald cardholder. Exception being AA Executive Platinum and Platinum Pro are not eligible for access when traveling solely on flights within or between the U.S., Canada, Mexico (except Mexico City), Bermuda, the Bahamas, and the Caribbean.
oneworld Los Angeles Lounge
Open daily: 14:00 - 20:45
Amenities:
Computer connected to Internet
Neil Perry dining and buffet (hot, cold, food carts)
Full staffed bar and made to order mixed drinks
Barista and coffee selections
Shower suites (9)
Access rules:
Traveling on a oneworld marketed and operated business or first departing in, or connecting from, business or first class on a oneworld international flight of over 5 hours,
or
traveling in business or first class on a three-class domestic flight
or
a oneworld Sapphire or Emerald cardholder. Exception being AA Executive Platinum, Platinum Pro, and Platinum members are not eligible for access when traveling solely on flights within or between the U.S., Canada, Mexico (except Mexico City), Bermuda, the Bahamas, and the Caribbean.
Location: Go airside via the North security check. Continue past the SkyTeam marked elevator / lift past the Star Alliance lounge signage and escalators to the main shops area and take the elevator to the oneworld Lounge on floor 5. (LAX / LAWA now allows passengers with same day departing boarding passes multi-terminal access.)
See AA T-4 - LAX TBIT secure airside connector open 25 Feb 2016 for airside access via the secure airside connector.
Qantas International First Lounge
Open daily: 06:30 - 23:30
Amenities:
Computer connected to Internet
Neil Perry dining and buffet (hot, cold, food carts)
Full staffed bar and made to order mixed drinks
Barista and coffee selections
Shower suites (7)
Access rules:
Traveling on a oneworld marketed and operated first departing in, or connecting from, first class on a oneworld international flight of over 5 hours,
or
traveling in first class on a three-class domestic flight
or
a oneworld Emerald cardholder. Exception being AA Executive Platinum and Platinum Pro are not eligible for access when traveling solely on flights within or between the U.S., Canada, Mexico (except Mexico City), Bermuda, the Bahamas, and the Caribbean.
oneworld Los Angeles Lounge
Open daily: 14:00 - 20:45
Amenities:
Computer connected to Internet
Neil Perry dining and buffet (hot, cold, food carts)
Full staffed bar and made to order mixed drinks
Barista and coffee selections
Shower suites (9)
Access rules:
Traveling on a oneworld marketed and operated business or first departing in, or connecting from, business or first class on a oneworld international flight of over 5 hours,
or
traveling in business or first class on a three-class domestic flight
or
a oneworld Sapphire or Emerald cardholder. Exception being AA Executive Platinum, Platinum Pro, and Platinum members are not eligible for access when traveling solely on flights within or between the U.S., Canada, Mexico (except Mexico City), Bermuda, the Bahamas, and the Caribbean.
Guide: LAX / Los Angeles TBIT / Bradley Int’l. oneworld Lounges
Jun 1, 2016, 7:22 pm
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Hi BRP. It would be worth a visit to the Qantas F lounge just to try some other New World wines. You may get some interesting comparisons to your local appellation. I live in the Hunter Valley (New South Wales) but at our monthly wine group meeting we taste (blind) a variety of wines from around the globe.
Cin Cin!
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Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't generally expect an airline lounge (even a good one) to be pallet-expanding in the wine area. In other venues, we do venture indeed.
Even at the LHR F lounges, for example, I can't pass up the Johnnie Blue over the wine offerings (that is, until they took it away maybe 1 hour before our flight Monday...both bottles
)I'm likely being too provincial on my views of the quality of wines in lounges...
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Jun 2, 2016, 12:18 am
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It is very well defined. EXP on international itinerary, per oneworld rules (https://www.oneworld.com/ffp/lounge-access) is covered under exception no.2, which means they are allowed access whenever they are not "travelling solely on North American flights within or between the U.S., Canada, Mexico (except Mexico City), the Bahamas, Bermuda and the Caribbean". Otherwise we would not have access to the AC FL. It doesn't matter if you are flying Y-F, J-Y, or what the class of service is.
If you are on separate tickets your onwards PNR is for a "solely North American flight" your other PNR is complete, whether it was 2hrs or 2 days ago.
What we the traveller tend to define as a single itinerary may not be by airlines, (or travel insurance provides)
Jun 2, 2016, 2:07 am
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Which is why I asked about separate PNRs...
If you are on separate tickets your onwards PNR is for a "solely North American flight" your other PNR is complete, whether it was 2hrs or 2 days ago.
What we the traveller tend to define as a single itinerary may not be by airlines, (or travel insurance provides)
If you are on separate tickets your onwards PNR is for a "solely North American flight" your other PNR is complete, whether it was 2hrs or 2 days ago.
What we the traveller tend to define as a single itinerary may not be by airlines, (or travel insurance provides)
Jun 2, 2016, 8:45 am
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Which is why I asked about separate PNRs...
If you are on separate tickets your onwards PNR is for a "solely North American flight" your other PNR is complete, whether it was 2hrs or 2 days ago.
What we the traveller tend to define as a single itinerary may not be by airlines, (or travel insurance provides)
If you are on separate tickets your onwards PNR is for a "solely North American flight" your other PNR is complete, whether it was 2hrs or 2 days ago.
What we the traveller tend to define as a single itinerary may not be by airlines, (or travel insurance provides)
Jun 2, 2016, 5:21 pm
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I think the agent was correct in this case.
Technically, the LAX-JFK segment gives you class of service based access to the AC (or any other oneworld J lounge). Status-based access, however, only applies on same-day connections, and since the MIA-PTY was on the next day, you shouldn't have had access.
Not agreeing with the rule, just pointing out what the rule is.
Technically, the LAX-JFK segment gives you class of service based access to the AC (or any other oneworld J lounge). Status-based access, however, only applies on same-day connections, and since the MIA-PTY was on the next day, you shouldn't have had access.
Not agreeing with the rule, just pointing out what the rule is.
Jun 3, 2016, 5:58 pm
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My experience was success at both QF and FL. Traveling on the LAX-JFK leg today and JFK-MIA-PTY tomorrow for my Panama run. Went to QF presented my Mobile boarding pass and my OWE card and granted access. Went to AC to get water for my flight and they handed me the FL key.
I don't believe I should have been granted access to either seeing as my international segment is tomorrow.
However, is a possible explanation that I was upgraded to First? I am unsure when it processed but I found out when I got to the gate.
Just my two cents - the QF lounge, while nice, wasn't worth the walk unless you wanted to dine at the table service restaurant. I got there as breakfast was finishing (11:30) and lunch wouldn't start until Noon - so I didn't get to eat. It is a nice lounge and was quiet at the time, spacious and clean. The atmosphere was nice. I would head back to try the food but I would not walk just to sit for a short time.
I don't believe I should have been granted access to either seeing as my international segment is tomorrow.
However, is a possible explanation that I was upgraded to First? I am unsure when it processed but I found out when I got to the gate.
Just my two cents - the QF lounge, while nice, wasn't worth the walk unless you wanted to dine at the table service restaurant. I got there as breakfast was finishing (11:30) and lunch wouldn't start until Noon - so I didn't get to eat. It is a nice lounge and was quiet at the time, spacious and clean. The atmosphere was nice. I would head back to try the food but I would not walk just to sit for a short time.
Jun 5, 2016, 2:07 pm
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So I'm sitting in the QF first lounge again, two successful visits after the last incorrect denial.
Today, I got the agent who denied me last time, so I was sure I was screwed. I was flying TPE-(JL J)-KIX-(JL Y)-LAX-(AA Y)-SJC. Agent allowed access without a fight.
I would say there are several possibilities:
1) They reeducated the agents on oneworld policy
2) This time I handed over a JL boarding pass for the AA segment I got in Osaka, so the AA flag didnt go off in the agents head
3) there was a guy sitting there on his laptop with the oneworld rules open on his laptop and an aa exp card out. Maybe she was distracted by whatever his issue was.
Didnt have much time in the lounge today (have to rush to the eagle terminal after lunch), so not much of a chance to dive in further. Just wanted to point out the datapoint.
Also pretty sure the agent recognized me.
Finally, the Kung Pao chicken on the summer menu is pretty good, they use szechuan peppercorns so the flavor is just right...
Today, I got the agent who denied me last time, so I was sure I was screwed. I was flying TPE-(JL J)-KIX-(JL Y)-LAX-(AA Y)-SJC. Agent allowed access without a fight.
I would say there are several possibilities:
1) They reeducated the agents on oneworld policy
2) This time I handed over a JL boarding pass for the AA segment I got in Osaka, so the AA flag didnt go off in the agents head
3) there was a guy sitting there on his laptop with the oneworld rules open on his laptop and an aa exp card out. Maybe she was distracted by whatever his issue was.
Didnt have much time in the lounge today (have to rush to the eagle terminal after lunch), so not much of a chance to dive in further. Just wanted to point out the datapoint.
Also pretty sure the agent recognized me.
Finally, the Kung Pao chicken on the summer menu is pretty good, they use szechuan peppercorns so the flavor is just right...
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Jun 6, 2016, 12:54 am
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Very much into wine. But we live in the Santa Cruz Mountains appellation in California, so I'm unlikely to find anything in either lounge that would compare favorably and, consequently, I rarely drink wine in even the best of airline lounges
But it is quite possible that what is on offer at TBIT exceeds the FL in this regard.
Cheers.
But it is quite possible that what is on offer at TBIT exceeds the FL in this regard.
Cheers.
Recently did a winery tour in California. Maybe one of the wines were decent. The rest were awful compared to many European and Australian wines.
The locals thought they were great though, and I guess that is their main market.
Jun 6, 2016, 9:14 am
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Cheers.
Jun 8, 2016, 11:14 pm
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Very much into wine. But we live in the Santa Cruz Mountains appellation in California, so I'm unlikely to find anything in either lounge that would compare favorably and, consequently, I rarely drink wine in even the best of airline lounges
But it is quite possible that what is on offer at TBIT exceeds the FL in this regard.
Cheers.
But it is quite possible that what is on offer at TBIT exceeds the FL in this regard.
Cheers.
The wine however was the highlight of the LAX Qantas F lounge for me. The lounge resembles a large box with little privacy and business class density, poor (waiter service only) food in a school lunchroom setting, and none of the special or unique amenities most other F lounges have to differentiate themselves from J lounges and each other.
Yes, this is a very decent lounge for LAX but still poor to mediocre on a global scale for a first class lounge. I'd rather spend time in the Qantas J lounges in Singapore or Hong Kong.
Jun 8, 2016, 11:43 pm
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I am sure any non Californian wine would be an improvement.
Recently did a winery tour in California. Maybe one of the wines were decent. The rest were awful compared to many European and Australian wines.
The locals thought they were great though, and I guess that is their main market.
Recently did a winery tour in California. Maybe one of the wines were decent. The rest were awful compared to many European and Australian wines.
The locals thought they were great though, and I guess that is their main market.
However I also have to question your palate as California wines (huge generalization) tend to fall between the European and Australian wines you seem to love in character and flavor profile.I've also noticed in my five or so trips to the LAX Qantas First lounge that at least half of the wines on offer at any given time are in fact from Australian producers, so maybe all the wines the "locals" thought were great were in fact the Australian offerings? That makes sense now right?
Jun 9, 2016, 8:49 am
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However, there are more than a few Santa Cruz Mountains wineries making pinots that, to my palate, are the equal of what I have tasted from Sonoma (or Oregon, for that matter). So, pitting top against top, I'd call it fairly even.
Although I may have to give an overall edge to Carneros. Seems that that really nasty soil there does wonders for the pinot and chard.
Sadly, heading to Napa for the weekend as friends from out of town want to go there. Certainly more spectacular and showy than Sonoma...and people probably should experience that at least once...sort of like Bourbon Street in New Orleans. Spend a little time there, then experience New Orleans
Cheers.
Jun 9, 2016, 9:04 am
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Just a reminder that this thread is about the TBIT oneworld lounges.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/diningbuzz-371/ is a better place to discuss the nuances of various wines.
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http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/diningbuzz-371/ is a better place to discuss the nuances of various wines.
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Jun 9, 2016, 9:06 am
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Just a reminder that this thread is about the TBIT oneworld lounges.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/diningbuzz-371/ is a better place to discuss the nuances of various wines.
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http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/diningbuzz-371/ is a better place to discuss the nuances of various wines.
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Cheers.