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mvoight Sep 21, 2012 11:43 pm


Originally Posted by qazw1 (Post 19361957)
I redeemed one of those plan ahead awards when my points was about to expire. Had difficulty ever finding a flight for a city I want to fly to. End up losing the award.

This year around, I just use them for my Admirals Club. Not a max value but much easier than searching for hours and calling them trying to find a flight.

I had the same issue before with the award expiring, but they allowed me to get the points back for $150. Did you call them to ask? The award availability should be similar to Aadvantage "saver" availability, but flights I could book online for saver were not available for BX awards when I called.

FlyMeToTheLooneyBin Sep 21, 2012 11:46 pm


Originally Posted by dstan (Post 19362040)
Using BE points for upgrades is generally MUCH more valuable than travel awards, and the removal of the 30-day upgrade window hugely increases their value.

But you still have the higher-fare restriction.

dstan Sep 21, 2012 11:48 pm


Originally Posted by mvoight (Post 19362101)
I had the same issue before with the award expiring, but they allowed me to get the points back for $150. Did you call them to ask? The award availability should be similar to Aadvantage "saver" availability, but flights I could book online for saver were not available for BX awards when I called.

I don't think that will help the OP since the points were expiring, assuming I am reading the Return Awards page right (under the Earn & Redeem Points menu):


Return Awards

Note: Reinstatement without a fee only applies to electronic flight awards redeemed within the last five calendar days (Days end at 11:59 p.m. Central Time - USA).

* Point balances will be adjusted to reinstate the number of points claimed at the time of redemption.
* Expiring point balances will be updated to reflect pre-redemption status.
* Awards returned will be identified in the Search for Awards Detail with the status code of Returned.
* Once an award has been returned it is null and void. It may not be used for future travel.

qazw1 Sep 22, 2012 8:04 am


Originally Posted by dstan (Post 19362119)
I don't think that will help the OP since the points were expiring, assuming I am reading the Return Awards page right (under the Earn & Redeem Points menu):

That is correct. One just lose the $150 fee. Also, at that point, I felt I can never get on a flight with the plan ahead award. One time, I spent like half hour with a very nice agent going day by day to see if any flights qualify for destinations Las Vegas or NYC. It was not possible to find a round trip even though we were like 4 to 5 months out.

So I decided it was not worth it. Lose a little value by using it for AC. Gain in earning more miles plus possibility of upgrade by buying ticket.

I also try for International awards, but it was hopeless for destinations like London or China.

Herb687 Sep 22, 2012 2:16 pm


Originally Posted by qazw1 (Post 19361957)
I redeemed one of those plan ahead awards when my points was about to expire. Had difficulty ever finding a flight for a city I want to fly to. End up losing the award.

Once the certificate is issued you then have one year to turn it into a ticket.





Originally Posted by mvoight (Post 19362101)
The award availability should be similar to Aadvantage "saver" availability, but flights I could book online for saver were not available for BX awards when I called.

It shouldn't be similiar; it should be the same. Business ExtrAA awards, the restricted ones, are supposed to pull from T/Z inventory (I forget what class business class saver awards book in? U?) I'd push back HARD if you are seeing T/Z availability for an AAdvantage award but Business ExtrAA can't book it. That should not be the case.

If it is - does this workaround work? Put T class booking on hold using AAdvantage award search but do not ticket. Then call Meeting Services and have them look up the PNR and apply BX cert instead of AAdv miles to the already created PNR?

dstan Sep 22, 2012 2:40 pm

I've taken this opportunity to update, add to, and reformat some of the general info provided in the first post. Please let me know by PM if any additional info needs to be added or revised. :)

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Aspirant Oct 12, 2012 10:59 am

BXP1 from BusinessExtrAA
 
Has anyone had any luck as an AA Gold upgrading domestic segments using a BXP1 award from BusinessExtrAA? Anyone know where this instrument falls in the upgrade hierarchy?

qbrain Oct 12, 2012 11:09 am


Originally Posted by Aspirant (Post 19484359)
Has anyone had any luck as an AA Gold upgrading domestic segments using a BXP1 award from BusinessExtrAA? Anyone know where this instrument falls in the upgrade hierarchy?

Do they waitlist? It should be an immediate upgrade if A fare space is available and you are trying to upgrade a qualifying fare.

dstan Oct 12, 2012 2:02 pm


Originally Posted by qbrain (Post 19484424)
Do they waitlist? It should be an immediate upgrade if A fare space is available and you are trying to upgrade a qualifying fare.

Yes, it should be waitlist-able - I've done it on a BXP3 before.

nitrobass24 Oct 12, 2012 2:27 pm

Does anyone here have random peoples flights post to their BE accounts?

ExpatExp Oct 17, 2012 6:27 am

BXP5 Special Services Award - AAdvantage GoldŽ Status

Has anyone here redeemed this award? How is the award given and how long does it take? Does it take longer if the recipient doesn't have an AAdvantage account?

mvoight Oct 17, 2012 9:00 pm


Originally Posted by dstan (Post 19362119)
I don't think that will help the OP since the points were expiring, assuming I am reading the Return Awards page right (under the Earn & Redeem Points menu):

I obtained an award just before the points expired. I was not able to use the award within the following year. They allowed me to pay $150 and get my points back, over a year after the expiration of the original points.

ckpeter Oct 17, 2012 9:03 pm


Originally Posted by ExpatExp (Post 19511992)
BXP5 Special Services Award - AAdvantage GoldŽ Status

Has anyone here redeemed this award? How is the award given and how long does it take? Does it take longer if the recipient doesn't have an AAdvantage account?

You just put in the recipient's AA number. If I recall correctly, their status will show in the system in about week, followed by membership card in the mail a few weeks later.

If they didn't already have an AA account, they will need to sign up for one, as you need the number to nominate them.

mvoight Oct 17, 2012 9:05 pm


Originally Posted by SugarLime (Post 19327205)
Thanks, thats helpful. AA is giving them an ARV (approximate retail value) somewhere around 10k (I'd have to look it up) but I only have to pay tax on the FMV...

Find the lowest valued fare you can use points for.
Remember, if you only want a one way ticket, you still have to use a full BE roundtrip award to get it. So, maybe you can value a 2000 mile domestic ticket award at $50 to $100
Document it
Use that as the FMV

ExpatExp Oct 18, 2012 8:56 am


Originally Posted by ckpeter (Post 19516961)
You just put in the recipient's AA number. If I recall correctly, their status will show in the system in about week, followed by membership card in the mail a few weeks later.

If they didn't already have an AA account, they will need to sign up for one, as you need the number to nominate them.

Thank you!


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