Jul 18, 2014, 8:16 am
Last edit by: Prospero
(Link) to “United Kingdom Air Passenger Duty (APD) Charged UK Departing Passengers”
Link to html full APD tax law
APD rates as of 01 Apr 2020:
Band A (0 to 2,000 miles) £13 Reduced, £26 Standard
Band B (anything over 2,000 miles): Reduced £80, Standard £176
Infants and children
“Children below the age of 2 years who are not allocated a separate seat before boarding the aircraft are not chargeable passengers. If a seat is purchased for the infant then APD is chargeable.
From 1 May 2015, children who are under the age of 12 years on the date of the flight, and in the lowest class of travel, are not chargeable passengers. Children 12 years and over, or travelling in any other class, are chargeable passengers and APD is due.
From 1 March 2016 children who are under the age of 16 years on the date of the flight, and in the lowest class of travel, are not chargeable passengers. Children 16 years and over, or travelling in any other class, are chargeable passengers and APD is due.”
General notes:
distances calculated between national capitals - e.g. HNL calculated as WAS.
Link to Source: U.K. Excise Notice 550: Air Passenger Duty
APD is due when passengers pay to upgrade any stage of their journey
N.B. Arriving at a UK airport will not incur APD. Connections with less than 24 hours will generally not require APD*; you may have to have the rate desk intervene if you are not on a through ticket. As noted, "band distance" is calculated Capital to Capital.
APD is not charged on flights originating in the Scottish Highlands (INV) or Islands. APD is not payable on direct, Band B, flights departing Northern Ireland.
* Connecting flights exemption (UK APD regulation)
“The connected flights must be detailed on the same ticket or conjunction tickets to qualify for the exemption. Tickets can only be regarded as conjunction tickets if:
a. they are in one booklet, or
b. where they are in separate booklets:
each refers to the other and states that they are to be read in conjunction
there is a summary of the flights constituting the passengers journey including the flights in question
Although the flights may meet all the other criteria for determining whether Two flights are connected, they will only qualify for the exemption if the connection is evidenced on the ticket or a flight summary.”
AA (c/o JonNYC, post #219):
septix by JonNYCme, on Flickr
Link to html full APD tax law
APD rates as of 01 Apr 2020:
Band A (0 to 2,000 miles) £13 Reduced, £26 Standard
Band B (anything over 2,000 miles): Reduced £80, Standard £176
Infants and children
“Children below the age of 2 years who are not allocated a separate seat before boarding the aircraft are not chargeable passengers. If a seat is purchased for the infant then APD is chargeable.
From 1 May 2015, children who are under the age of 12 years on the date of the flight, and in the lowest class of travel, are not chargeable passengers. Children 12 years and over, or travelling in any other class, are chargeable passengers and APD is due.
From 1 March 2016 children who are under the age of 16 years on the date of the flight, and in the lowest class of travel, are not chargeable passengers. Children 16 years and over, or travelling in any other class, are chargeable passengers and APD is due.”
General notes:
distances calculated between national capitals - e.g. HNL calculated as WAS.
Link to Source: U.K. Excise Notice 550: Air Passenger Duty
APD is due when passengers pay to upgrade any stage of their journey
N.B. Arriving at a UK airport will not incur APD. Connections with less than 24 hours will generally not require APD*; you may have to have the rate desk intervene if you are not on a through ticket. As noted, "band distance" is calculated Capital to Capital.
APD is not charged on flights originating in the Scottish Highlands (INV) or Islands. APD is not payable on direct, Band B, flights departing Northern Ireland.
* Connecting flights exemption (UK APD regulation)
“The connected flights must be detailed on the same ticket or conjunction tickets to qualify for the exemption. Tickets can only be regarded as conjunction tickets if:
a. they are in one booklet, or
b. where they are in separate booklets:
each refers to the other and states that they are to be read in conjunction
there is a summary of the flights constituting the passengers journey including the flights in question
Although the flights may meet all the other criteria for determining whether Two flights are connected, they will only qualify for the exemption if the connection is evidenced on the ticket or a flight summary.”
AA (c/o JonNYC, post #219):
septix by JonNYCme, on Flickr
UK APD / Air Passenger Duty charged for UK departures (Master Thread)
Jan 7, 2016, 1:25 pm
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Jan 8, 2016, 12:07 pm
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i need your help. i purchased a revenue coach ticket on AA.com round trip SFO-LAX-LHR-LAX-SFO in Nov 2015 and used SWU to upgrade. in Aug 2015 i also booked on AA.com using AAdvantage miles an award in First on BA LHR-DEL. for the award ticket the taxes were $307.80 and carrier imposed fees were $209.60. my revenue flight SFO-LAX-LHR arrives 2 march 2016 @ 10:30 a.m. my departing award flight departs LHR-DEL 2 march 2016 @ 6:55 p.m. (less than 24 hours) in talking with the EXP desk (who checked with the rate desk) i am told that there is not a refund due. is this correct. i am a real novice at knowing how the ADP works and how much it should be but any help from you would be greatly appreciated.
Jan 19, 2016, 5:02 pm
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I went ahead an purchased my ticket MIA-MUC via LHR (was able to clear my SWU). For the BUD-MIA via LHR (they had to waitlist me, ugh). This is return is 11 months away.
The LHR-MUC and BUD-LHR is operated by BA. The MIA legs are on AA.
But my question is I will overnight (21 hours) on the return. Should I assume that my luggage will be tagged all the way through to MIA since that is how it is ticketed, but should I assume I will still need to collect it because they aren't going to hold it overnight? Would I even WANT them to hold it overnight - is LHR safe? (I wouldn't do that in MIA EVER). I easily could put my PJs & next day wear and such in my carry on.
Anyone experience this type of overnight connection heading to the U.S.
Thanks
The LHR-MUC and BUD-LHR is operated by BA. The MIA legs are on AA.
But my question is I will overnight (21 hours) on the return. Should I assume that my luggage will be tagged all the way through to MIA since that is how it is ticketed, but should I assume I will still need to collect it because they aren't going to hold it overnight? Would I even WANT them to hold it overnight - is LHR safe? (I wouldn't do that in MIA EVER). I easily could put my PJs & next day wear and such in my carry on.
Anyone experience this type of overnight connection heading to the U.S.
Thanks
Jan 30, 2016, 10:16 am
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First of all, I want to thank everyone for their advice on waiving the APD thus far. Below was my experience waiving the APD on two separate tickets.
First leg:
BA0216
IAD-LHR arriving 05:55
Booked using Avios (20k + $256; Not a great redemption, I know)
Second leg:
EY 12
LHR-AUH departing 09:15 of same day
Booked using AA awards
Process took 2 calls and around 2 hours. I booked the LHR-AUH months ago when I saw two open seats, only booked BA yesterday. First agent says that the incoming flight has to be mentioned before booking the second leg and told me to go online to refunds or reservations. (BS). Called up the second agent, told her the entire process of referring to the incoming flight's ticket number and asking her to contact the rates or reservation desk. She went away for about 45 minutes and came back to refund $214.40 a piece for the UK APD.
So, even for those of us that don't have access to EXP desk, a simple call to AA award reservation should do the trick.
First leg:
BA0216
IAD-LHR arriving 05:55
Booked using Avios (20k + $256; Not a great redemption, I know)
Second leg:
EY 12
LHR-AUH departing 09:15 of same day
Booked using AA awards
Process took 2 calls and around 2 hours. I booked the LHR-AUH months ago when I saw two open seats, only booked BA yesterday. First agent says that the incoming flight has to be mentioned before booking the second leg and told me to go online to refunds or reservations. (BS). Called up the second agent, told her the entire process of referring to the incoming flight's ticket number and asking her to contact the rates or reservation desk. She went away for about 45 minutes and came back to refund $214.40 a piece for the UK APD.
So, even for those of us that don't have access to EXP desk, a simple call to AA award reservation should do the trick.
Jan 30, 2016, 10:26 am
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First of all, I want to thank everyone for their advice on waiving the APD thus far. Below was my experience waiving the APD on two separate tickets.
First leg:
BA0216
IAD-LHR arriving 05:55
Booked using Avios (20k + $256; Not a great redemption, I know)
Second leg:
EY 12
LHR-AUH departing 09:15 of same day
Booked using AA awards
Process took 2 calls and around 2 hours. I booked the LHR-AUH months ago when I saw two open seats, only booked BA yesterday. First agent says that the incoming flight has to be mentioned before booking the second leg and told me to go online to refunds or reservations. (BS). Called up the second agent, told her the entire process of referring to the incoming flight's ticket number and asking her to contact the rates or reservation desk. She went away for about 45 minutes and came back to refund $214.40 a piece for the UK APD.
So, even for those of us that don't have access to EXP desk, a simple call to AA award reservation should do the trick.
First leg:
BA0216
IAD-LHR arriving 05:55
Booked using Avios (20k + $256; Not a great redemption, I know)
Second leg:
EY 12
LHR-AUH departing 09:15 of same day
Booked using AA awards
Process took 2 calls and around 2 hours. I booked the LHR-AUH months ago when I saw two open seats, only booked BA yesterday. First agent says that the incoming flight has to be mentioned before booking the second leg and told me to go online to refunds or reservations. (BS). Called up the second agent, told her the entire process of referring to the incoming flight's ticket number and asking her to contact the rates or reservation desk. She went away for about 45 minutes and came back to refund $214.40 a piece for the UK APD.
So, even for those of us that don't have access to EXP desk, a simple call to AA award reservation should do the trick.
(£142=approximately USD 204 using current exchange rates...)
Jan 30, 2016, 10:34 am
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If the LHR-AUH ticket had to be reissued, then the UK PSC would have been re-calculated at the current (more favorable) exchange rate. That might account for at least some of the difference.
Originally Posted by RTWonSAT
That's what the agent quoted the refund to be. Didn't want ask any more questions at that point.
Jan 30, 2016, 10:51 am
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If the LHR-AUH ticket had to be reissued, then the UK PSC would have been re-calculated at the current (more favorable) exchange rate. That might account for at least some of the difference.
If the LHR-AUH ticket had to be reissued, then the UK PSC would have been re-calculated at the current (more favorable) exchange rate. That might account for at least some of the difference.
Mar 10, 2016, 11:55 am
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Note: Moderator Microwave notes, in another thread, that with BA flights (starting soon) from INV (exempt from APD as it is in the Scottish Highlands and Islands exemption) will enable APD-free flights. (Added to wikiposts.)
Mar 10, 2016, 12:20 pm
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By the time added a flight up to Inverness, would seem to be a small saving for a lot of time spent travelling
Mar 10, 2016, 12:29 pm
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For travel to USA on AA with London , On a business award ticket, will still pay USD40 in BA surcharges plus taxes of $103.76 vs taxes of $283.56 starting in London. The saving is $139
By the time added a flight up to Inverness, would seem to be a small saving for a lot of time spent travelling
By the time added a flight up to Inverness, would seem to be a small saving for a lot of time spent travelling
INV is another option, so if someone wants to take advantage of it, great. If lots of people find it useful, great. If you don't want to, fantastic.
Last edited by Microwave; Mar 10, 2016 at 1:15 pm
Mar 10, 2016, 12:55 pm
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It is stating a very relevent point that the APD may be removed, BUT there will be additional fuel surcharge to pay
Will save GBP142, but will incur an addtional GBP23 in surcharges making saving only GBP119 , not the full GBP142
Will save GBP142, but will incur an addtional GBP23 in surcharges making saving only GBP119 , not the full GBP142
Mar 10, 2016, 1:11 pm
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There are no carrier imposed surcharges on BA short haul. Airport charges still apply though.
Mar 10, 2016, 1:14 pm
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