Jul 18, 2014, 8:16 am
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(Link) to “United Kingdom Air Passenger Duty (APD) Charged UK Departing Passengers”
Link to html full APD tax law
APD rates as of 01 Apr 2020:
Band A (0 to 2,000 miles) £13 Reduced, £26 Standard
Band B (anything over 2,000 miles): Reduced £80, Standard £176
Infants and children
“Children below the age of 2 years who are not allocated a separate seat before boarding the aircraft are not chargeable passengers. If a seat is purchased for the infant then APD is chargeable.
From 1 May 2015, children who are under the age of 12 years on the date of the flight, and in the lowest class of travel, are not chargeable passengers. Children 12 years and over, or travelling in any other class, are chargeable passengers and APD is due.
From 1 March 2016 children who are under the age of 16 years on the date of the flight, and in the lowest class of travel, are not chargeable passengers. Children 16 years and over, or travelling in any other class, are chargeable passengers and APD is due.”
General notes:
distances calculated between national capitals - e.g. HNL calculated as WAS.
Link to Source: U.K. Excise Notice 550: Air Passenger Duty
APD is due when passengers pay to upgrade any stage of their journey
N.B. Arriving at a UK airport will not incur APD. Connections with less than 24 hours will generally not require APD*; you may have to have the rate desk intervene if you are not on a through ticket. As noted, "band distance" is calculated Capital to Capital.
APD is not charged on flights originating in the Scottish Highlands (INV) or Islands. APD is not payable on direct, Band B, flights departing Northern Ireland.
* Connecting flights exemption (UK APD regulation)
“The connected flights must be detailed on the same ticket or conjunction tickets to qualify for the exemption. Tickets can only be regarded as conjunction tickets if:
a. they are in one booklet, or
b. where they are in separate booklets:
each refers to the other and states that they are to be read in conjunction
there is a summary of the flights constituting the passengers journey including the flights in question
Although the flights may meet all the other criteria for determining whether Two flights are connected, they will only qualify for the exemption if the connection is evidenced on the ticket or a flight summary.”
AA (c/o JonNYC, post #219):
septix by JonNYCme, on Flickr
Link to html full APD tax law
APD rates as of 01 Apr 2020:
Band A (0 to 2,000 miles) £13 Reduced, £26 Standard
Band B (anything over 2,000 miles): Reduced £80, Standard £176
Infants and children
“Children below the age of 2 years who are not allocated a separate seat before boarding the aircraft are not chargeable passengers. If a seat is purchased for the infant then APD is chargeable.
From 1 May 2015, children who are under the age of 12 years on the date of the flight, and in the lowest class of travel, are not chargeable passengers. Children 12 years and over, or travelling in any other class, are chargeable passengers and APD is due.
From 1 March 2016 children who are under the age of 16 years on the date of the flight, and in the lowest class of travel, are not chargeable passengers. Children 16 years and over, or travelling in any other class, are chargeable passengers and APD is due.”
General notes:
distances calculated between national capitals - e.g. HNL calculated as WAS.
Link to Source: U.K. Excise Notice 550: Air Passenger Duty
APD is due when passengers pay to upgrade any stage of their journey
N.B. Arriving at a UK airport will not incur APD. Connections with less than 24 hours will generally not require APD*; you may have to have the rate desk intervene if you are not on a through ticket. As noted, "band distance" is calculated Capital to Capital.
APD is not charged on flights originating in the Scottish Highlands (INV) or Islands. APD is not payable on direct, Band B, flights departing Northern Ireland.
* Connecting flights exemption (UK APD regulation)
“The connected flights must be detailed on the same ticket or conjunction tickets to qualify for the exemption. Tickets can only be regarded as conjunction tickets if:
a. they are in one booklet, or
b. where they are in separate booklets:
each refers to the other and states that they are to be read in conjunction
there is a summary of the flights constituting the passengers journey including the flights in question
Although the flights may meet all the other criteria for determining whether Two flights are connected, they will only qualify for the exemption if the connection is evidenced on the ticket or a flight summary.”
AA (c/o JonNYC, post #219):
septix by JonNYCme, on Flickr
UK APD / Air Passenger Duty charged for UK departures (Master Thread)
Jul 29, 2016, 4:47 pm
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JonNYC, thank you for sharing this image. Did you see additional details outside of that image where passengers should reach out for APD refund purposes, my guess is AA refund department? I am debating, press my refund case BEFORE or AFTER my trip. In my situation, I'll take UA award ticketed trip to LHR with 23 hours connection before start my AA-award trip.
Aug 27, 2016, 6:31 pm
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Avoiding LHR tax with separate tixs (less than 24 hrs)
I read some time ago that AA can look up my BA ticket (this case is from DUB with a 22 hr stop over in London) and base the award taxes off that and not ex LHR?
I called numerous times and AA is saying no they must all be on same ticket
Has this changed or what should I say/do?
I called numerous times and AA is saying no they must all be on same ticket
Has this changed or what should I say/do?
Aug 27, 2016, 6:37 pm
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There is not much you can do to avoid LHR taxes if you are on two separate tickets. AA is correct here.You have to be on same ticket to avoid the taxes.
Aug 27, 2016, 6:54 pm
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Aug 27, 2016, 8:42 pm
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I read some time ago that AA can look up my BA ticket (this case is from DUB with a 22 hr stop over in London) and base the award taxes off that and not ex LHR?
I called numerous times and AA is saying no they must all be on same ticket
Has this changed or what should I say/do?
I called numerous times and AA is saying no they must all be on same ticket
Has this changed or what should I say/do?
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/26670568-post155.html
Aug 28, 2016, 12:25 pm
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JonNYC is right.
AA just has to reference your connecting ticket number in their system so that they have documentation when the tax man comes calling as to why they didn't collect tax from you.
I've done it a few times at the airport by giving them the boarding pass from my previous flight. After some serious typing, things usually get figured out.
AA just has to reference your connecting ticket number in their system so that they have documentation when the tax man comes calling as to why they didn't collect tax from you.
I've done it a few times at the airport by giving them the boarding pass from my previous flight. After some serious typing, things usually get figured out.
Sep 6, 2016, 2:40 pm
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Somewhat old, but believed still mostly current link discussing this and some ways around it (which may not help your situation):
http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.c...minimize-it/++
The air passenger duty apply to travel originating in the UK. It’s essentially a departure tax. You don’t pay this if you’re flying into the UK, but rather only when flying out of the UK.
http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.c...minimize-it/++
The air passenger duty apply to travel originating in the UK. It’s essentially a departure tax. You don’t pay this if you’re flying into the UK, but rather only when flying out of the UK.
Sep 6, 2016, 2:46 pm
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United Kingdom APD is only due when you originate (or connect over 23:59) in the United Kingdom.
We will merge this into the existing Air Passenger a Duty thread. /Moderator
We will merge this into the existing Air Passenger a Duty thread. /Moderator
Sep 6, 2016, 3:59 pm
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Even AA employees can get ADP refunded by proving they were connecting from another flight even if it was a ZED fare ticket from OW carrier.
Oct 20, 2016, 8:28 am
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Wow, this is a very, very technical thread. Thank you to everyone for your input.
Connecting AMS-LGW on BA on 11/28 booked through Chase UR portal then BA LGW-TPA booked with AA miles. I called BA to link the record locators today for baggage purposes.
Looks like I now need to call AA and request a refund of APD.
ETA: Called AA and they said they have no way of seeing the BA revenue flight from AMS-LGW since I booked it through BA and the best thing for me to do is visit the ticketing counter when I land at TPA and request a refund. Looks like I'm HUCA'ing
Connecting AMS-LGW on BA on 11/28 booked through Chase UR portal then BA LGW-TPA booked with AA miles. I called BA to link the record locators today for baggage purposes.
Looks like I now need to call AA and request a refund of APD.
ETA: Called AA and they said they have no way of seeing the BA revenue flight from AMS-LGW since I booked it through BA and the best thing for me to do is visit the ticketing counter when I land at TPA and request a refund. Looks like I'm HUCA'ing
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