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GUIDE to redeeming AA miles for Japan Air Lines awards:
For 2012-2015 posts, please see
ARCHIVE: AA Award on JL / JAL / Japan Airlines (master thd)
For further information, see:
HELP DESK: MileSAAver / SAAver award questions, assistance
oneworld and Other Airline (Partner) Awards info, rules 2014 on
- JL awards are now shown show and can be booked on aa.com
- AwardNexus (free to FlyerTalk members for basic searches) will also reveal, and (for a fee) alert, on JL award seats
- AA awards on JL must be MileSAAver (AAnytime awards are only available on AA marketed and AA operated flights)
- There are no onerous fuel or carrier-imposed surcharges using AAdvantage miles for awards using JL
- JL initially releases awards to AAvantage members 330 days out at 10:00 am JST time (18:00 PDT, 17:00 PST). Note, JL award inventory is released to members of other FFPs 360 day out and updates award and revenue seat award availability once daily ~09:30-12:00 Pacific time
- JL may release 0-2 F and 0-4 J award seats initially; until taken they remain available up to three months from release
- No further seats are likely to be released until shortly (~14 days) prior to scheduled departure - but the last F seat will be retained for sale, not released into award inventory
- No stopovers are allowed on AA awards. Connections may be as long as 23:59.
- Only JAL Mileage Bank members can waitlist awards
- All awards for domestic Japan will default to Economy (including international F or J award with domestic segments); these can often be upgraded at reasonable cost at the ticket counter in the Japan connecting airport
- If JL & QF are showing availability, but AA can't see it, try calling the Australia AA center as it may be a point-of-sale issue
For 2012-2015 posts, please see
ARCHIVE: AA Award on JL / JAL / Japan Airlines (master thd)
For further information, see:
HELP DESK: MileSAAver / SAAver award questions, assistance
oneworld and Other Airline (Partner) Awards info, rules 2014 on
AAdvantage Award on JL / JAL / Japan Airlines (2016-2023)
Aug 29, 2018, 8:38 am
#601
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Philadelphia
Programs: SPG Gold, Hilton Diamond, Hyatt Globalist, Loews Platinum
Posts: 629
Looking for some help....
I've booked JAL JFK-NRT-ICN in J and the reverse flying JAL to Korea several times in the last few years with AA miles. However: https://www.businesstraveller.com/bu...cheon-service/
As of this past march JAL no longer flies NRT to ICN. It looks like however that they are doing Code Share with Korean Air between NRT and ICN.
Of course JAL does have HND - GMP flights, but I'm only able to get award availability on NRT-JFK then I've got to figure out the best way to get between Seoul and NRT.
Perfect would be if I could use AA miles to book that CodeShare flight but I'm pretty sure that's not possible. Has anyone ever been able to do that? Use AA Miles to book a JAL award where one of the legs was on a JAL partner flight that was code share with JAL (in my case Korean Air). This would be ideal.
Assuming that's not possible, question is if I one way or another book one of the flights on Korean Air that is code shared with JAL Can I check my bags all the way through from ICN to JFK even though its a separate ticket? Would it matter if the ICN-NRT leg is in Y instead of J?
Thanks!
I've booked JAL JFK-NRT-ICN in J and the reverse flying JAL to Korea several times in the last few years with AA miles. However: https://www.businesstraveller.com/bu...cheon-service/
As of this past march JAL no longer flies NRT to ICN. It looks like however that they are doing Code Share with Korean Air between NRT and ICN.
Of course JAL does have HND - GMP flights, but I'm only able to get award availability on NRT-JFK then I've got to figure out the best way to get between Seoul and NRT.
Perfect would be if I could use AA miles to book that CodeShare flight but I'm pretty sure that's not possible. Has anyone ever been able to do that? Use AA Miles to book a JAL award where one of the legs was on a JAL partner flight that was code share with JAL (in my case Korean Air). This would be ideal.
Assuming that's not possible, question is if I one way or another book one of the flights on Korean Air that is code shared with JAL Can I check my bags all the way through from ICN to JFK even though its a separate ticket? Would it matter if the ICN-NRT leg is in Y instead of J?
Thanks!
Aug 29, 2018, 10:03 am
#602
Join Date: Dec 2016
Programs: AA EXP
Posts: 214
I believe you can only upgrade yourself from economy to premium economy for $350...
Aug 29, 2018, 11:41 am
#603
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Live: IWI; Work: DCA/Everywhere; Play: LAS/SJU/MLE
Programs: AA EXP, DL PM, Hyatt Glob, Marriott Ambassador/LTP, Nat'l Exec Elite, LEYE Gold
Posts: 6,671
Perfect would be if I could use AA miles to book that CodeShare flight but I'm pretty sure that's not possible. Has anyone ever been able to do that? Use AA Miles to book a JAL award where one of the legs was on a JAL partner flight that was code share with JAL (in my case Korean Air). This would be ideal.
Assuming that's not possible, question is if I one way or another book one of the flights on Korean Air that is code shared with JAL Can I check my bags all the way through from ICN to JFK even though its a separate ticket? Would it matter if the ICN-NRT leg is in Y instead of J?
Assuming that's not possible, question is if I one way or another book one of the flights on Korean Air that is code shared with JAL Can I check my bags all the way through from ICN to JFK even though its a separate ticket? Would it matter if the ICN-NRT leg is in Y instead of J?
2. If you're just asking about the return (ICN-NRT-JFK) and not the outbound, then you should be fine with your bags going through. Just have a printout of your NRT-JFK ticket. From JFK-NRT-ICN, I'm not sure whether JAL has continued to interline bags to other carriers on separate tickets -- I think they do but maybe someone with firsthand experience can chime in. And if you're starting somewhere else on AA (like CLT-JFK-NRT before NRT-ICN) then forget about it, AA won't check through with separate tickets on separate PNRs.
Aug 29, 2018, 12:21 pm
#604
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Philadelphia
Programs: SPG Gold, Hilton Diamond, Hyatt Globalist, Loews Platinum
Posts: 629
1. No using AA miles for a JL-numbered KE flight.
2. If you're just asking about the return (ICN-NRT-JFK) and not the outbound, then you should be fine with your bags going through. Just have a printout of your NRT-JFK ticket. From JFK-NRT-ICN, I'm not sure whether JAL has continued to interline bags to other carriers on separate tickets -- I think they do but maybe someone with firsthand experience can chime in. And if you're starting somewhere else on AA (like CLT-JFK-NRT before NRT-ICN) then forget about it, AA won't check through with separate tickets on separate PNRs.
2. If you're just asking about the return (ICN-NRT-JFK) and not the outbound, then you should be fine with your bags going through. Just have a printout of your NRT-JFK ticket. From JFK-NRT-ICN, I'm not sure whether JAL has continued to interline bags to other carriers on separate tickets -- I think they do but maybe someone with firsthand experience can chime in. And if you're starting somewhere else on AA (like CLT-JFK-NRT before NRT-ICN) then forget about it, AA won't check through with separate tickets on separate PNRs.
Aug 29, 2018, 12:27 pm
#605
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Live: IWI; Work: DCA/Everywhere; Play: LAS/SJU/MLE
Programs: AA EXP, DL PM, Hyatt Glob, Marriott Ambassador/LTP, Nat'l Exec Elite, LEYE Gold
Posts: 6,671
Great that's good news. For the outbound I was able to get JFK-HND-GMP so it's only the return that's the concern. I potentially could get GMP-HND added if availability opened but would then have to get from HND to NRT and I'd probably rather just pay for a ticket to NRT than do that. So this is good. If I purchase or book via award those Korean Air flights from ICN to NRT and show the Korean Air checkin desk my JAL ticket they will check my luggage all the way to JFK is what you are saying right? Great!
Aug 29, 2018, 12:58 pm
#606
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Philadelphia
Programs: SPG Gold, Hilton Diamond, Hyatt Globalist, Loews Platinum
Posts: 629
I'm pretty sure that's a normal thing they do. Do you have to bring your own luggage and recheck in NRT or do they move it there somehow? That's plenty of time so maybe I'll consider that....
Thank you for the help!
Aug 29, 2018, 7:43 pm
#607
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Live: IWI; Work: DCA/Everywhere; Play: LAS/SJU/MLE
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Posts: 6,671
Yes to booking on one award (that's about the only thing that co-terminals are good for nowadays) and yes to you'll have to drag your own bags to recheck.
Aug 31, 2018, 10:02 pm
#608
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: TPA
Programs: BA Silver; Hilton Gold; IHG Diamond Ambassador; Marriott Gold
Posts: 2,811
Sep 2, 2018, 1:49 am
#609
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Live: IWI; Work: DCA/Everywhere; Play: LAS/SJU/MLE
Programs: AA EXP, DL PM, Hyatt Glob, Marriott Ambassador/LTP, Nat'l Exec Elite, LEYE Gold
Posts: 6,671
If you're referring to this, https://www.aa.com/i18n/travel-info/...-airlines.jsp:
Earn miles
To earn AAdvantage® miles when you fly on Japan Airlines marketed and operated flights as well as Japan Airlines codeshare flights operated by other carriers including oneworld® carriers and affiliatesBut I would love to be proved wrong!
Sep 2, 2018, 7:24 am
#610
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 488
Just booked an F award ord-bkk with JL. Anyway AA account showed they deducted 80000 mile and then 30000 mile. Wondering why would they deduct as 2 segments? Shouldn't it just be 110000 ,one deduction, for one ticket?
Also ORD-NRT then HND-BKK. There is no free transfer offered even for F customer?
Also ORD-NRT then HND-BKK. There is no free transfer offered even for F customer?
Last edited by IamHungry; Sep 2, 2018 at 7:30 am
Sep 2, 2018, 8:27 am
#611
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Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: RDU <|> MMX
Programs: AA EXP 2MM, SK EBS
Posts: 12,483
Just booked an F award ord-bkk with JL. Anyway AA account showed they deducted 80000 mile and then 30000 mile. Wondering why would they deduct as 2 segments? Shouldn't it just be 110000 ,one deduction, for one ticket?
Also ORD-NRT then HND-BKK. There is no free transfer offered even for F customer?
Also ORD-NRT then HND-BKK. There is no free transfer offered even for F customer?
One potential upside with 2 awards, you can have a stopover in Tokyo for as long as you want, if that would be of interest.
And no transfers are provided between NRT and HND. The Limo bus is easy.
Sep 2, 2018, 9:00 am
#612
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 488
Weird, yea it should just be a single 110k US-Asia 2 F award, most likely the agent just set it up as separate awards since the mileage is the same, who knows.
One potential upside with 2 awards, you can have a stopover in Tokyo for as long as you want, if that would be of interest.
And no transfers are provided between NRT and HND. The Limo bus is easy.
One potential upside with 2 awards, you can have a stopover in Tokyo for as long as you want, if that would be of interest.
And no transfers are provided between NRT and HND. The Limo bus is easy.
Sep 2, 2018, 9:58 am
#613
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 361
If I book JFK-HND/NRT-PUS as one award and then better award time comes up, jfk-nrt-pus on a different date, can I rebook for free since starting an destination is the same?
Sep 2, 2018, 12:33 pm
#615
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