Aug 4, 2015, 1:37 pm
Last edit by: Prospero
GUIDE to redeeming AA miles for Japan Air Lines awards:
For 2012-2015 posts, please see
ARCHIVE: AA Award on JL / JAL / Japan Airlines (master thd)
For further information, see:
HELP DESK: MileSAAver / SAAver award questions, assistance
oneworld and Other Airline (Partner) Awards info, rules 2014 on
- JL awards are now shown show and can be booked on aa.com
- AwardNexus (free to FlyerTalk members for basic searches) will also reveal, and (for a fee) alert, on JL award seats
- AA awards on JL must be MileSAAver (AAnytime awards are only available on AA marketed and AA operated flights)
- There are no onerous fuel or carrier-imposed surcharges using AAdvantage miles for awards using JL
- JL initially releases awards to AAvantage members 330 days out at 10:00 am JST time (18:00 PDT, 17:00 PST). Note, JL award inventory is released to members of other FFPs 360 day out and updates award and revenue seat award availability once daily ~09:30-12:00 Pacific time
- JL may release 0-2 F and 0-4 J award seats initially; until taken they remain available up to three months from release
- No further seats are likely to be released until shortly (~14 days) prior to scheduled departure - but the last F seat will be retained for sale, not released into award inventory
- No stopovers are allowed on AA awards. Connections may be as long as 23:59.
- Only JAL Mileage Bank members can waitlist awards
- All awards for domestic Japan will default to Economy (including international F or J award with domestic segments); these can often be upgraded at reasonable cost at the ticket counter in the Japan connecting airport
- If JL & QF are showing availability, but AA can't see it, try calling the Australia AA center as it may be a point-of-sale issue
For 2012-2015 posts, please see
ARCHIVE: AA Award on JL / JAL / Japan Airlines (master thd)
For further information, see:
HELP DESK: MileSAAver / SAAver award questions, assistance
oneworld and Other Airline (Partner) Awards info, rules 2014 on
AAdvantage Award on JL / JAL / Japan Airlines (2016-2023)
Jun 1, 2018, 2:42 pm
#541
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: SFO/SMF
Programs: Holder of six "persona non-grata" awards
Posts: 1,914
Looked through this thread but didn't quite find my answer; hoping someone here can help. I would like to book two Business (one-way only) from HND to SFO on 4/27/19. Ability to book this flight as revenue can be done starting today, but AA doesn't see any awards available yet. Does it take a bit longer to show award availability vs a revenue ticket? Can someone with any insight suggest when I should try booking award/miles redemption again?
Thank you,
Thank you,
Jun 2, 2018, 6:22 am
#542
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Looked through this thread but didn't quite find my answer; hoping someone here can help. I would like to book two Business (one-way only) from HND to SFO on 4/27/19. Ability to book this flight as revenue can be done starting today, but AA doesn't see any awards available yet. Does it take a bit longer to show award availability vs a revenue ticket? Can someone with any insight suggest when I should try booking award/miles redemption again?
Thank you,
Thank you,
I would sign up for a BA account, then you can check yourself online rather than having to call AA. If you see space open up on BA, then call AA to book.
Jun 2, 2018, 12:45 pm
#543
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: SFO/SMF
Programs: Holder of six "persona non-grata" awards
Posts: 1,914
Thanks, I do have a BA account and will check. I was just curious if there is any pattern to when JAL releases saver awards; I'm an infrequent flier so not up on all the tips and tricks.
Looking at BA I don't see any award availability for HND-SFO on 4/27/19. Just because you are inside the ~330 day booking window doesn't necessarily mean there will also be award space released.
I would sign up for a BA account, then you can check yourself online rather than having to call AA. If you see space open up on BA, then call AA to book.
I would sign up for a BA account, then you can check yourself online rather than having to call AA. If you see space open up on BA, then call AA to book.
Jun 3, 2018, 10:57 pm
#544
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: SF Eastbay
Programs: AA Plt-Lite 2MM,HH Gld, MR Plat
Posts: 613
Adding JAL Domestic segment
I'm planning to fly to Osaka(KIX or ITM) in J and have question on booking the JAL domestic segment. What's the best method?
Placing the AA (SFO-LAX-HND) portion on hold and calling AA for to add the JAL or having AA csr book the whole route? Also, when does AA see the JAL domestic inventory?
Thanks.
Placing the AA (SFO-LAX-HND) portion on hold and calling AA for to add the JAL or having AA csr book the whole route? Also, when does AA see the JAL domestic inventory?
Thanks.
Last edited by sbc94523; Jun 5, 2018 at 11:38 am
Jun 10, 2018, 11:44 pm
#545
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: SF Eastbay
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Posts: 613
bump thread
Jun 11, 2018, 6:12 am
#546
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I'm planning to fly to Osaka(KIX or ITM) in J and have question on booking the JAL domestic segment. What's the best method?
Placing the AA (SFO-LAX-HND) portion on hold and calling AA for to add the JAL or having AA csr book the whole route? Also, when does AA see the JAL domestic inventory?
Thanks.
Placing the AA (SFO-LAX-HND) portion on hold and calling AA for to add the JAL or having AA csr book the whole route? Also, when does AA see the JAL domestic inventory?
Thanks.
Jun 11, 2018, 9:05 am
#547
Join Date: Jun 2018
Programs: SPG Plat 75+, HH Gold, AA Plat, DL Silver, UA Silver
Posts: 1
Newbie Question here, and can't seem to find a solid answer online:
Accumulated nearly 200K AA miles, and looking to book RT F to HND or NRT from MIA. No awards availibity showing from MIA to HND/NRT, only from their non-stop US hubs (SFO, LAX, ORD, JFK, etc...), but AASaver and AAAnytime availibility from MIA to SFO/LAX/ORD/JFK. Would my MIA leg be included in the 80K redemption, and if so, would that leg have to be in the AASaver bucket? Or, would I be able to utilize MIA to SFO/LAX/ORD/JFK non-stop routing, which is otherwise only an AAAnytime award, and incur no additional redemption add-ons (i.e. needing to then book a separate reward ticket)??
Accumulated nearly 200K AA miles, and looking to book RT F to HND or NRT from MIA. No awards availibity showing from MIA to HND/NRT, only from their non-stop US hubs (SFO, LAX, ORD, JFK, etc...), but AASaver and AAAnytime availibility from MIA to SFO/LAX/ORD/JFK. Would my MIA leg be included in the 80K redemption, and if so, would that leg have to be in the AASaver bucket? Or, would I be able to utilize MIA to SFO/LAX/ORD/JFK non-stop routing, which is otherwise only an AAAnytime award, and incur no additional redemption add-ons (i.e. needing to then book a separate reward ticket)??
Jun 11, 2018, 9:34 am
#548
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Newbie Question here, and can't seem to find a solid answer online:
Accumulated nearly 200K AA miles, and looking to book RT F to HND or NRT from MIA. No awards availibity showing from MIA to HND/NRT, only from their non-stop US hubs (SFO, LAX, ORD, JFK, etc...), but AASaver and AAAnytime availibility from MIA to SFO/LAX/ORD/JFK. Would my MIA leg be included in the 80K redemption, and if so, would that leg have to be in the AASaver bucket? Or, would I be able to utilize MIA to SFO/LAX/ORD/JFK non-stop routing, which is otherwise only an AAAnytime award, and incur no additional redemption add-ons (i.e. needing to then book a separate reward ticket)??
Accumulated nearly 200K AA miles, and looking to book RT F to HND or NRT from MIA. No awards availibity showing from MIA to HND/NRT, only from their non-stop US hubs (SFO, LAX, ORD, JFK, etc...), but AASaver and AAAnytime availibility from MIA to SFO/LAX/ORD/JFK. Would my MIA leg be included in the 80K redemption, and if so, would that leg have to be in the AASaver bucket? Or, would I be able to utilize MIA to SFO/LAX/ORD/JFK non-stop routing, which is otherwise only an AAAnytime award, and incur no additional redemption add-ons (i.e. needing to then book a separate reward ticket)??
Jun 14, 2018, 12:06 pm
#549
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: KSTP KSPG
Programs: AOPA
Posts: 974
Removed
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Jun 25, 2018, 8:58 pm
#550
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Westchester county, NY
Programs: DL DM, MAR gold
Posts: 175
Last-minute question: months ago, I booked Mrs. EssexNYC and myself in J on JFK-NRT. Departure is two days from today. About a week ago, one F award seat opened up - I saw that there were at least two F seats for sale, so I upgraded my wife hoping that another seat would open up, but no such luck. Of eight seats in F, at least one is available for sale, and only three have selected seats (including Mrs. EssexNYC) - I know that seats available for selection is not an indicator of unsold seats, but five of eight unassigned seems an oddly high ratio. There are no J seats left (for purchase, award ticketing, or seat selection). Now at T-36 hours, should we be resigned to flying in separate classes? Or is there any chance of award availability opening up in the day or hours before departure?
Jun 25, 2018, 9:08 pm
#551
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Location: NorCal - SMF area
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Last-minute question: months ago, I booked Mrs. EssexNYC and myself in J on JFK-NRT. Departure is two days from today. About a week ago, one F award seat opened up - I saw that there were at least two F seats for sale, so I upgraded my wife hoping that another seat would open up, but no such luck. Of eight seats in F, at least one is available for sale, and only three have selected seats (including Mrs. EssexNYC) - I know that seats available for selection is not an indicator of unsold seats, but five of eight unassigned seems an oddly high ratio. There are no J seats left (for purchase, award ticketing, or seat selection). Now at T-36 hours, should we be resigned to flying in separate classes? Or is there any chance of award availability opening up in the day or hours before departure?
Jun 26, 2018, 12:39 am
#552
Join Date: Jan 2010
Programs: UA, AS
Posts: 2,393
Last-minute question: months ago, I booked Mrs. EssexNYC and myself in J on JFK-NRT. Departure is two days from today. About a week ago, one F award seat opened up - I saw that there were at least two F seats for sale, so I upgraded my wife hoping that another seat would open up, but no such luck. Of eight seats in F, at least one is available for sale, and only three have selected seats (including Mrs. EssexNYC) - I know that seats available for selection is not an indicator of unsold seats, but five of eight unassigned seems an oddly high ratio. There are no J seats left (for purchase, award ticketing, or seat selection). Now at T-36 hours, should we be resigned to flying in separate classes? Or is there any chance of award availability opening up in the day or hours before departure?
Jun 26, 2018, 5:02 am
#553
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Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: RDU <|> MMX
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Last-minute question: months ago, I booked Mrs. EssexNYC and myself in J on JFK-NRT. Departure is two days from today. About a week ago, one F award seat opened up - I saw that there were at least two F seats for sale, so I upgraded my wife hoping that another seat would open up, but no such luck. Of eight seats in F, at least one is available for sale, and only three have selected seats (including Mrs. EssexNYC) - I know that seats available for selection is not an indicator of unsold seats, but five of eight unassigned seems an oddly high ratio. There are no J seats left (for purchase, award ticketing, or seat selection). Now at T-36 hours, should we be resigned to flying in separate classes? Or is there any chance of award availability opening up in the day or hours before departure?
Jun 27, 2018, 3:01 pm
#554
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 514
Googled but couldnt find any concrete answer. Does JAL still provide free hotel at HND for overnite layover on award tickets - using AA miles? Thank you!
Jun 27, 2018, 4:09 pm
#555
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: GIG
Programs: AAdvantage ExP 1MM, Smiles/GOL Diamond, TudoAzul/AZUL Diamond, HHonors Gold, Accor Platinum
Posts: 190