Apr 11, 2013, 8:02 pm
Last edit by: JDiver
Lounge Access for oneworld First or Business Class Passengers
NOTE: This thread has received little use since the establishment of the thread HELP DESK: Will I Have Lounge Access? Access, Rules (2017). Please use that thread to inquire about Lounge access. A few more recent posts have been moved to that thread.
Relax in more premium lounges around the world
If your oneworld® frequent flyer tier status is Emerald or Sapphire, or you are traveling in a First or Business Class cabin on a oneworld member airline, you can access more than 600 airport lounges throughout the world.
This means you can relax or catch up with work in comfort and style before departure, regardless of which oneworld member airline you choose to fly with.
To be eligible, you must be departing on a flight that is both marketed and operated by a oneworld member airline.
oneworld lounge access for First Class or Business Class customers (link)
Indulge yourself before departure in a wider range of airport lounges when you fly First Class or Business Class with any oneworld member airline.
The following exceptions apply:
If your oneworld® frequent flyer tier status is Emerald or Sapphire, or you are traveling in a First or Business Class cabin on a oneworld member airline, you can access more than 600 airport lounges throughout the world.
This means you can relax or catch up with work in comfort and style before departure, regardless of which oneworld member airline you choose to fly with.
To be eligible, you must be departing on a flight that is both marketed and operated by a oneworld member airline.
- Some lounges may get busy at peak times, and access to them may be restricted as a result.
- Lounges operated by third parties are identified in the lounge finder tool (above). Access to these lounges is restricted to eligible customers when travelling on specific oneworld airlines as shown in the lounge finder tool.
- Arrivals lounges are excluded.
- Spa and Pre-Flight Dining facilities are excluded.
- British Airways Concorde lounges are excluded.
- Other exceptions may apply (see below).
oneworld lounge access for First Class or Business Class customers (link)
Indulge yourself before departure in a wider range of airport lounges when you fly First Class or Business Class with any oneworld member airline.
- Customers flying First or Business Class have access to the equivalent class of lounge regardless of their frequent flyer status. First Class passengers may use a Business Class or frequent flyer lounge if a First Class lounge is not available.
- First Class passengers may invite one guest to join them in the lounge. The guest must also be travelling on a flight operated and marketed by a oneworld airline.
- Connecting between oneworld marketed and operated flights:
- First and Business Class customers connecting on the same day of travel, or before 6am the following day, can access the lounge when travelling between an international long haul (a oneworld international long haul flight is defined as an international flight marketed and operated by any oneworld carrier with a scheduled flight time longer than 5 hours) and an international short haul or domestic flight (and vice-versa).
- Lounge access will be determined on the international long haul ticketed flight (either First of Business Class) regardless of the ticketed class of travel on the international short haul or domestic flight.
- You must be prepared to show your boarding pass or itinerary showing travel in First or Business class on the international long haul flight, in order to access the lounge before your international short haul or domestic flight.
- First and Business Class customers who do not hold Emerald or Sapphire tier status are not eligible to access American Airlines lounges when travelling on solely domestic flights within the U.S. or between the U.S. and Canada, Mexico [except Mexico City], the Bahamas, Bermuda and the Caribbean; customers travelling in First or Business class on U.S. transcontinental flights between JFK-LAX, JFK-SFO and MIA-LAX (and vice-versa) are eligible for lounge access.
- Guests are not permitted at Qatar Airways Al Safwa and Al Mourjan lounges at Hamad International Airport in Doha or Qatar Airways Premium Lounge at London Heathrow Terminal 4.
Please see the following resources for further details on Class of Service Based Lounge Access Rules:
. . . ● oneworld Lounge Access Wizard , created by FlyerTalk member imagineertobe
. . . ● AA.com: AA Lounge Access Rules
. . . ● oneworld.com: Lounge Access Rules and Search Tool
. . . ● FlyerGuide Wiki: Lounges
. . . ● FT thread: AAdvantage status-based access to AA & oneworld lounges (consolidated)
ARCHIVE: Lounge Access Based on Class of Service (master thread)
Feb 7, 2015, 8:20 am
#226
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 378
I need help clarifying lounge access at a final stop on an itinerary with a CX long haul in F. Our itinerary is CX HKG-ORD in F, AA ORD-PHX in F, and US PHX-SAN in F. All flights depart on the same day. I'm fairly certain we'll have full OW lounge access at ORD, including the Flagship Lounge. We also have a 2 hour layover in PHX. Will we have access to the ACs in PHX with our CX boarding pass?
From AA.com regarding access:
First and Business Class customers connecting on the same day of travel, or before 6am the following day, can access the lounge when traveling between an international long haul* and an international short haul or domestic flight (and vice-versa).
From what I read, they may not allow us access as we are connecting domestic-domestic on that leg. Anyone have prior experience with this or clarification? FWIW, we are non-status and traveling on an AAward ticket.
From AA.com regarding access:
First and Business Class customers connecting on the same day of travel, or before 6am the following day, can access the lounge when traveling between an international long haul* and an international short haul or domestic flight (and vice-versa).
From what I read, they may not allow us access as we are connecting domestic-domestic on that leg. Anyone have prior experience with this or clarification? FWIW, we are non-status and traveling on an AAward ticket.
Feb 24, 2015, 8:06 am
#227
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: HEL
Programs: AY, SK, TK
Posts: 7,599
I will be arriving at JFK T8 from HEL in economy, continuing same day to Brazil in coach. Returning through JFK T8 again towards HEL all the way economy (ouch). All AA ticket, AY/AA metal. I will have long layovers in JFK, so:
-I am eligible to First class lounge at T8 right, as AY OWE?
-Is there time restrictions using the lounge?
-Can I go into the lounge on arrival to refresh myself, then go out to NYC for few hours, then come back to lounge again before departure?
-Can I guest a FT'er into the lounge?
My assumption is YES to all of these, but an experienced FTer please confirm
-I am eligible to First class lounge at T8 right, as AY OWE?
-Is there time restrictions using the lounge?
-Can I go into the lounge on arrival to refresh myself, then go out to NYC for few hours, then come back to lounge again before departure?
-Can I guest a FT'er into the lounge?
My assumption is YES to all of these, but an experienced FTer please confirm
Last edited by FFlash; Feb 24, 2015 at 9:28 am
Feb 24, 2015, 8:23 am
#228
Senior Moderator and Moderator: American AAdvantage & TravelBuzz
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: BOS
Programs: AA EXP, Marriott Titanium
Posts: 10,417
I will be arriving at JFK T8 from HEL in economy, continuing same day to Brazil in coach. Returning through JFK T8 again towards HEL all the way economy (ouch). I will have long layovers in JFK, so:
-I am eligible to First class lounge at T8 right, as AY OWE?
-Is there time restrictions using the lounge?
-Can I go into the lounge on arrival to refresh myself, then go out to NYC for few hours, then come back to lounge again before departure?
-Can I guest a FT'er into the lounge?
My assumption is YES to all of these, but an experienced FTer please confirm
-I am eligible to First class lounge at T8 right, as AY OWE?
-Is there time restrictions using the lounge?
-Can I go into the lounge on arrival to refresh myself, then go out to NYC for few hours, then come back to lounge again before departure?
-Can I guest a FT'er into the lounge?
My assumption is YES to all of these, but an experienced FTer please confirm
If you're trying to access the lounge based on your OWE status, we'll need to know just a little more about your flights...
You can access first class lounges as a OWE as long as you are traveling internationally (which it seems you are) and connecting onwards on a flight operated and marketed by a oneworld carrier (which is unclear based on what you provided).
No time restrictions in the sense that you can stay in there as long as you want.
As long as you're connecting onwards on an eligible flight, you can enter/exit the lounge as many times as you want. Feel free to enjoy NYC for a few hours.
As OWE, you can bring one guest with you, but the guest must also be traveling on a flight operated and marketed by a oneworld carrier.
Info is here under the "oneworld lounge access for frequent flyers by tier status" section. (Again, assuming you're trying to access lounges based on tier status, and not class of service.)
http://www.oneworld.com/ffp/lounge-access
Feb 24, 2015, 9:27 am
#229
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: HEL
Programs: AY, SK, TK
Posts: 7,599
Thanks for the info
I wrote above that I am flying Y all the way, but I forgot to mention it is AA ticket all the way on Finnair&AA metal
Edited my earlier post...
EDIT2: I saw there is another thread on guesting lounge, will post there when getting closer to my flight
I wrote above that I am flying Y all the way, but I forgot to mention it is AA ticket all the way on Finnair&AA metal
Edited my earlier post...
EDIT2: I saw there is another thread on guesting lounge, will post there when getting closer to my flight
Mar 3, 2015, 1:20 pm
#230
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Atlanta, GA
Programs: AAdvantage Platinum; Hilton Diamond
Posts: 239
Just bumping this thread to see if there have been any recent updates at FRA (last report seems to be about 18 months ago). Arriving on AA70 from DFW in J and wondering if I'll have access to any lounges with showers? Apparently US gives vouchers/fliers advertising arrivals access at JAL's Sakura but AA doesn't? Has that changed at all? Thanks!
Mar 29, 2015, 7:36 pm
#231
Join Date: Jan 2014
Programs: AAdvantage Gold
Posts: 2
I'm flying ICN-DFW-CMI on all AA(AE) metal, where ICN-DFW is Business (C) Upgrade Award and DFW-CMI is Economy 1-class American Eagle. I'm not sure about lounge access in DFW, as AA website states:
which doesn't address connections unlike oneworld FC/BC section.
Does anyone have experience on similar itinerary? Thanks!
Originally Posted by http://www.aa.com/i18n/travelInformation/airportAmenities/AdmiralsLocations.jsp
American Airlines International Premium Class
Customers in First or Business Class traveling to or from Europe, Asia, South America, Central America and Mexico City only. All other international destinations are excluded from the benefit of lounge access. Passengers eligible for access must provide their government-issued ID and a First or Business Class ticket or boarding pass valid for departure on the same-day or before 6:00 a.m. the following day. Stopovers are not permitted.
Customers in First or Business Class traveling to or from Europe, Asia, South America, Central America and Mexico City only. All other international destinations are excluded from the benefit of lounge access. Passengers eligible for access must provide their government-issued ID and a First or Business Class ticket or boarding pass valid for departure on the same-day or before 6:00 a.m. the following day. Stopovers are not permitted.
Does anyone have experience on similar itinerary? Thanks!
Mar 29, 2015, 8:02 pm
#232
Join Date: May 2007
Programs: AAdvantage, Hilton
Posts: 3,191
I'm flying ICN-DFW-CMI on all AA(AE) metal, where ICN-DFW is Business (C) Upgrade Award and DFW-CMI is Economy 1-class American Eagle. I'm not sure about lounge access in DFW, as AA website states:
which doesn't address connections unlike oneworld FC/BC section.
Does anyone have experience on similar itinerary? Thanks!
which doesn't address connections unlike oneworld FC/BC section.
Does anyone have experience on similar itinerary? Thanks!
Apr 2, 2015, 8:06 am
#234
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Atl, GA
Programs: AA EP, HH Diamond, Marriott Plat
Posts: 127
Flying in May on a business award ticket ATL->LAX->HNL->PEK with AA (Hawaiian for the last leg). I should have access at lounges at any of those stops along the way right?
Apr 2, 2015, 8:10 am
#235
Moderator: American AAdvantage
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Join Date: May 2000
Location: NorCal - SMF area
Programs: AA LT Plat; HH LT Diamond, Maître-plongeur des Muccis
Posts: 62,948
A $50 one day lounge pass would allow ATL, LAX and HNL Admirals Club the day of travel (I'm not sure ATL has a Club).
Apr 2, 2015, 11:56 am
#236
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Atl, GA
Programs: AA EP, HH Diamond, Marriott Plat
Posts: 127
AFAIK, no. Hawaiian is not a oneworld partner, so only domestic lounge policies would apply - no lounge access unless Hawaiian offers lounge access in HNL.
A $50 one day lounge pass would allow ATL, LAX and HNL Admirals Club the day of travel (I'm not sure ATL has a Club).
A $50 one day lounge pass would allow ATL, LAX and HNL Admirals Club the day of travel (I'm not sure ATL has a Club).
Atl does have a club btw.
Apr 2, 2015, 3:05 pm
#237
Moderator: American AAdvantage
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Join Date: May 2000
Location: NorCal - SMF area
Programs: AA LT Plat; HH LT Diamond, Maître-plongeur des Muccis
Posts: 62,948
A good deal for some is the Admirals Club thirty day membership (it's not a pass - it gets you and up to two guests or accompanying immediate family members (even if more than two) at all Clubs (whether you're flying or not) over a thirty day period for $99.
May 20, 2015, 2:33 pm
#238
Join Date: Jul 2013
Programs: Mileage Plus, AAdvantage, Executive Club
Posts: 198
Strange question. Say I have an itin LAX-JFK-LHR in AA/BA First. Will I have access to the Flagship Lounge in ORD that morning, connecting carrier notwithstanding? Or would I need to be departing ORD on AA?
May 20, 2015, 3:12 pm
#239
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If you're Executive Platinum / Emerald, ditto.
If you're on BA First departing Terminal 5, you'll have Flagship Lounge access, but as you depart T5 you're better off using the BA Terraces / First lounge there, I think. (between gates M-11 and M12).
Last edited by JDiver; May 20, 2015 at 3:29 pm
May 20, 2015, 3:30 pm
#240
Join Date: Jul 2013
Programs: Mileage Plus, AAdvantage, Executive Club
Posts: 198
I'm not sure which is your transatlantic operating carrier. If it's AA, you'd be able to access the Flagship Lounge if departing in longhaul Flagship First class.
If you're Executive Platinum / Emerald, ditto.
If you're on BA First departing Terminal 5, you'll have Flagship Lounge access, but as you depart T5 you're better off using the BA Terraces / First lounge there, I think. (between gates M-11 and M12).
If you're Executive Platinum / Emerald, ditto.
If you're on BA First departing Terminal 5, you'll have Flagship Lounge access, but as you depart T5 you're better off using the BA Terraces / First lounge there, I think. (between gates M-11 and M12).
I guess my actual question is: if I am flying [not AA] ORD-LAX, can I still get ORD FLounge access based on my same day BA First TATL flight? I am just a lowly Plat.
Example for reference: Virgin ORD-LAX, AA LAX-JFK, BA F JFK-LHR, all same day (yes, it can be done, just barely heh)