AA status-based access to Admirals Clubs & oneworld lounges (consolidated)
Feb 22, 2008, 8:08 pm
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AA status-based access to Admirals Clubs & oneworld lounges (consolidated)
I am flying in C ORD-BRU on AA connecting in Y to an AA flight number/SN operated flight BRU-FLR.
Can I use either the SN lounge or BA lounge during my transit?
I would think just the BA since I am in Y and EXP but not too sure.
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MODERATOR'S NOTE
This thread has now been consolidated with several related threads regarding AAdvantage status-based (PLT, EXP) access to Admirals Clubs, Flagship Lounges, and other oneworld Lounges when traveling on 'international' itineraries (Europe, Asia, Central and South America, and Mexico City).
Please note the following important resources for determining lounge access:
AA.com: Lounge Access Policies
oneworld.com: Lounge Access Rules and Lounge Search
FT AA FAQ: Will I have lounge access on my itinerary?
AA wiki: Lounges
Also check out the new :-: oneworld Lounge Access Wizard :-:, created by FlyerTalk member imagineertobe!
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Can I use either the SN lounge or BA lounge during my transit?
I would think just the BA since I am in Y and EXP but not too sure.
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MODERATOR'S NOTE
This thread has now been consolidated with several related threads regarding AAdvantage status-based (PLT, EXP) access to Admirals Clubs, Flagship Lounges, and other oneworld Lounges when traveling on 'international' itineraries (Europe, Asia, Central and South America, and Mexico City).
Please note the following important resources for determining lounge access:
AA.com: Lounge Access Policies
oneworld.com: Lounge Access Rules and Lounge Search
FT AA FAQ: Will I have lounge access on my itinerary?
AA wiki: Lounges
Also check out the new :-: oneworld Lounge Access Wizard :-:, created by FlyerTalk member imagineertobe!
dstan
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Last edited by dstan; Oct 13, 2009 at 3:48 pm Reason: oneworld lounge access wizard
Feb 22, 2008, 8:35 pm
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The BA lounge, which is quite nice and quiet, can be accessed by AA PLTs and EXPs, regardless of class of ticket. It does not have a shower.
The SN lounge, however, is only accessible by those with Business Class tickets. AA Status does not count at all. So your C ticket is ok. This lounge if often quite busy in the morning.
SN has a shower, although it's in the Diamond lounge down the hall on the right past the BA lounge.
note: wifi access costs 20Euro/day minimum, there is no hourly rate! Both lounges have computers with internet access that you can use for free.
note2: SN won't let you board early even as an EXP unless you are SN Business Class or unless you have high enough Privilege status. SN is not a full OW partner.
The SN lounge, however, is only accessible by those with Business Class tickets. AA Status does not count at all. So your C ticket is ok. This lounge if often quite busy in the morning.
SN has a shower, although it's in the Diamond lounge down the hall on the right past the BA lounge.
note: wifi access costs 20Euro/day minimum, there is no hourly rate! Both lounges have computers with internet access that you can use for free.
note2: SN won't let you board early even as an EXP unless you are SN Business Class or unless you have high enough Privilege status. SN is not a full OW partner.
Feb 22, 2008, 10:09 pm
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Outbound you'll have to connect to the schengen terminal in BRU and it has no BA club so it may be challenging finding an option. The BA club in the non-schengen terminal is in the departure area. I'm not sure whether or not t's accessible from the arrival area. Maybe someone knows.
Inbound you won;t have any problems using the BA lounge.
Inbound you won;t have any problems using the BA lounge.
The BA lounge, which is quite nice and quiet, can be accessed by AA PLTs and EXPs, regardless of class of ticket. It does not have a shower.
The SN lounge, however, is only accessible by those with Business Class tickets. AA Status does not count at all. So your C ticket is ok. This lounge if often quite busy in the morning.
SN has a shower, although it's in the Diamond lounge down the hall on the right past the BA lounge.
note: wifi access costs 20Euro/day minimum, there is no hourly rate! Both lounges have computers with internet access that you can use for free.
note2: SN won't let you board early even as an EXP unless you are SN Business Class or unless you have high enough Privilege status. SN is not a full OW partner.
The SN lounge, however, is only accessible by those with Business Class tickets. AA Status does not count at all. So your C ticket is ok. This lounge if often quite busy in the morning.
SN has a shower, although it's in the Diamond lounge down the hall on the right past the BA lounge.
note: wifi access costs 20Euro/day minimum, there is no hourly rate! Both lounges have computers with internet access that you can use for free.
note2: SN won't let you board early even as an EXP unless you are SN Business Class or unless you have high enough Privilege status. SN is not a full OW partner.
Feb 22, 2008, 11:20 pm
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This statement is misleading, as is much of this thread.
SN is not part of Oneworld. (There is no such thing as partial Oneworld member!).
As SN is not part of Oneworld, Oneworld benefits do not apply to SN.
On your outbound, you will be connecting to SN. As EXP lounge access is a OneWorld benefit, you will not have access to the BA lounge (the only Onewold lounge at BRU AFAIK).
I do have several experiences transiting BRU flying AA + SN and trying to visit the BA lounge. On most occasions I have been denied access when they see that my AA flight is operated by SN - not Oneworld. However a couple times they did not notice. (Once I showed my ORD-BRU boarding pass and they though it said BRU-ORD and let me in.)
SN does have a nice lounge of their own, but is only for their own elites and their business class passengers. (It is quite a nice lounge too.)
On your return, your next flight will be on AA, a Oneworld member. So you will have access to the BA lounge.
How I do wish SN would be invited to Oneworld. (BA probably doesn't want this!)
SN is not part of Oneworld. (There is no such thing as partial Oneworld member!).
As SN is not part of Oneworld, Oneworld benefits do not apply to SN.
On your outbound, you will be connecting to SN. As EXP lounge access is a OneWorld benefit, you will not have access to the BA lounge (the only Onewold lounge at BRU AFAIK).
I do have several experiences transiting BRU flying AA + SN and trying to visit the BA lounge. On most occasions I have been denied access when they see that my AA flight is operated by SN - not Oneworld. However a couple times they did not notice. (Once I showed my ORD-BRU boarding pass and they though it said BRU-ORD and let me in.)
SN does have a nice lounge of their own, but is only for their own elites and their business class passengers. (It is quite a nice lounge too.)
On your return, your next flight will be on AA, a Oneworld member. So you will have access to the BA lounge.
How I do wish SN would be invited to Oneworld. (BA probably doesn't want this!)
Last edited by wanaflyforless; Feb 22, 2008 at 11:26 pm
Feb 23, 2008, 7:28 am
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This statement is misleading, as is much of this thread.
SN is not part of Oneworld. (There is no such thing as partial Oneworld member!).
As SN is not part of Oneworld, Oneworld benefits do not apply to SN.
On your outbound, you will be connecting to SN. As EXP lounge access is a OneWorld benefit, you will not have access to the BA lounge (the only Onewold lounge at BRU AFAIK).
I do have several experiences transiting BRU flying AA + SN and trying to visit the BA lounge. On most occasions I have been denied access when they see that my AA flight is operated by SN - not Oneworld. However a couple times they did not notice. (Once I showed my ORD-BRU boarding pass and they though it said BRU-ORD and let me in.)
SN does have a nice lounge of their own, but is only for their own elites and their business class passengers. (It is quite a nice lounge too.)
On your return, your next flight will be on AA, a Oneworld member. So you will have access to the BA lounge.
How I do wish SN would be invited to Oneworld. (BA probably doesn't want this!)
SN is not part of Oneworld. (There is no such thing as partial Oneworld member!).
As SN is not part of Oneworld, Oneworld benefits do not apply to SN.
On your outbound, you will be connecting to SN. As EXP lounge access is a OneWorld benefit, you will not have access to the BA lounge (the only Onewold lounge at BRU AFAIK).
I do have several experiences transiting BRU flying AA + SN and trying to visit the BA lounge. On most occasions I have been denied access when they see that my AA flight is operated by SN - not Oneworld. However a couple times they did not notice. (Once I showed my ORD-BRU boarding pass and they though it said BRU-ORD and let me in.)
SN does have a nice lounge of their own, but is only for their own elites and their business class passengers. (It is quite a nice lounge too.)
On your return, your next flight will be on AA, a Oneworld member. So you will have access to the BA lounge.
How I do wish SN would be invited to Oneworld. (BA probably doesn't want this!)
Feb 23, 2008, 8:37 am
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In september I flew ORD-BRU-VIE on AA/SN. AA checked me in for both flights and printed by BP for BRU-VIE on AA ticket paper. When I got to BRU, I went to the Lounge Area (only found the lounges for *A and the OW Iberia lounge). Showed my AA printed BP, and PLT card and they let me into the contract run Iberia lounge. Nothing to write home about, but had a few drinks and relaxed. I was going out of Terminal A, therefore the IB lounge made more sense.
according to oneworld.com there are three lounges that are available in BRU.
BA Terraces
Location details: Terminal B, Gate B1, 4th floor
Opening hours: Daily 06:00-21:00
Iberia Lounge
Location details: 3rd floor Satellite - terminal A
Opening hours: Daily 06:00-22:00
SN Brussels Lounge**
Location details: Terminal A, lounge level (4th floor)
Opening hours: Daily 05:30-22:00
**Operated by a third party on behalf of: Finnair
*** At peak periods, access to certain lounges may be restricted due to capacity constraints. Access is available on the day of departure when the next onward flight is with a oneworld member airline. Access may not apply at a limited number of third party lounges.
according to oneworld.com there are three lounges that are available in BRU.
BA Terraces
Location details: Terminal B, Gate B1, 4th floor
Opening hours: Daily 06:00-21:00
Iberia Lounge
Location details: 3rd floor Satellite - terminal A
Opening hours: Daily 06:00-22:00
SN Brussels Lounge**
Location details: Terminal A, lounge level (4th floor)
Opening hours: Daily 05:30-22:00
**Operated by a third party on behalf of: Finnair
*** At peak periods, access to certain lounges may be restricted due to capacity constraints. Access is available on the day of departure when the next onward flight is with a oneworld member airline. Access may not apply at a limited number of third party lounges.
Last edited by netsc; Feb 23, 2008 at 8:42 am Reason: added OW lounges at BRU.
Feb 23, 2008, 8:38 am
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As wannaflyforless states clearly (and oneworld and American Airlines access rules do too,) the outbound flight must be operated and markleted by a oneworld airline for access to a oneworld lounge. Codeshares mean absolutely nothing and are not eligible for lounge access, other than for the occasional mistaken admission.
In this instance, if the OP were on a B-Flex fare, there would be access to the Brussels Airlines lounge in the Schengen terminal. On arrival at the north Zaventem terminal, the OP will have to go through the BRU equivalent of flight connections, no hope of using the BA lounge, nor would the OP be granted access to use it as an arrivals lounge.
Links to both policies are in the Unofficial Users' Guide, but I will provide them (yet) again.
Admirals Club Lounge Access Policies
oneworld lounge access policy
which states, in part:
"Access to Airline Lounges
The oneworld® alliance airlines provide more than 500 lounges across the globe. If you are an Emerald or Sapphire level top-tier member of one of our frequent flyer programmes, you will have access to any of these lounges before departure, no matter which oneworld airline you are flying. Lounge access is available if the departing flight from that airport is marketed and operated by a oneworld carrier. Access is subject to lounge capacity."
In this instance, if the OP were on a B-Flex fare, there would be access to the Brussels Airlines lounge in the Schengen terminal. On arrival at the north Zaventem terminal, the OP will have to go through the BRU equivalent of flight connections, no hope of using the BA lounge, nor would the OP be granted access to use it as an arrivals lounge.
Links to both policies are in the Unofficial Users' Guide, but I will provide them (yet) again.
Admirals Club Lounge Access Policies
oneworld lounge access policy
which states, in part:
"Access to Airline Lounges
The oneworld® alliance airlines provide more than 500 lounges across the globe. If you are an Emerald or Sapphire level top-tier member of one of our frequent flyer programmes, you will have access to any of these lounges before departure, no matter which oneworld airline you are flying. Lounge access is available if the departing flight from that airport is marketed and operated by a oneworld carrier. Access is subject to lounge capacity."
Feb 23, 2008, 8:57 am
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"Access to Airline Lounges
The oneworld® alliance airlines provide more than 500 lounges across the globe. If you are an Emerald or Sapphire level top-tier member of one of our frequent flyer programmes, you will have access to any of these lounges before departure, no matter which oneworld airline you are flying. Lounge access is available if the departing flight from that airport is marketed and operated by a oneworld carrier. Access is subject to lounge capacity."
Feb 23, 2008, 9:18 am
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May 21, 2008, 4:09 pm
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Lounge access TBIT at LAX
I've read the Oneworld site and the AA Wiki, but still have a quick question:
Can an AAPlat flying Qantas in coach access the Qantas lounge at TBIT?
Thanks.
Can an AAPlat flying Qantas in coach access the Qantas lounge at TBIT?
Thanks.
May 21, 2008, 4:13 pm
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May 21, 2008, 4:26 pm
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May 21, 2008, 4:45 pm
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You just saved me a lot of trouble. I would have headed straight for TBIT as noted on the LAX website.
May 21, 2008, 5:09 pm
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To reconfirm:
More here:And, as you are flying to SYD then on to HBA using a Qantas codeshare on JQ metal (which departs from SYD T2), please note the following:
- Qantas flights from LAX to SYD/JFK depart from T4
- Qantas flights from LAX to BNE/MEL/AKL depart from TBIT.
More here:And, as you are flying to SYD then on to HBA using a Qantas codeshare on JQ metal (which departs from SYD T2), please note the following:
Transfer between Terminals:
Transferring from T1 (International Airport) to T2 and T3 (Domestic Airports):
After you clear customs, recheck your baggage at the Seamless Transfer Check-in counters and then board the shuttle bus for the Domestic terminal.* The shuttle bus service is available to passengers that are travelling or have travelled on a Qantas flight (including codeshare flights) or oneworld flight. It operates from 6am to 12noon every 10 minutes and from 12noon until 9.40pm every 20 minutes. The bus arrives at T3 opposite Gate 1. Check the screens for departure gate information.
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Transferring between T3 and T2 (Domestic Airports):
Walking is the best method and takes approximately 7 minutes. Simply follow the pedestrian walkways and directional signs through the car park or through the airport train tunnel link.
Transferring from T1 (International Airport) to T2 and T3 (Domestic Airports):
After you clear customs, recheck your baggage at the Seamless Transfer Check-in counters and then board the shuttle bus for the Domestic terminal.* The shuttle bus service is available to passengers that are travelling or have travelled on a Qantas flight (including codeshare flights) or oneworld flight. It operates from 6am to 12noon every 10 minutes and from 12noon until 9.40pm every 20 minutes. The bus arrives at T3 opposite Gate 1. Check the screens for departure gate information.
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Transferring between T3 and T2 (Domestic Airports):
Walking is the best method and takes approximately 7 minutes. Simply follow the pedestrian walkways and directional signs through the car park or through the airport train tunnel link.
Last edited by serfty; May 21, 2008 at 7:12 pm