Apr 11, 2013, 8:02 pm
Last edit by: JDiver
Lounge Access for oneworld First or Business Class Passengers
NOTE: This thread has received little use since the establishment of the thread HELP DESK: Will I Have Lounge Access? Access, Rules (2017). Please use that thread to inquire about Lounge access. A few more recent posts have been moved to that thread.
Relax in more premium lounges around the world
If your oneworld® frequent flyer tier status is Emerald or Sapphire, or you are traveling in a First or Business Class cabin on a oneworld member airline, you can access more than 600 airport lounges throughout the world.
This means you can relax or catch up with work in comfort and style before departure, regardless of which oneworld member airline you choose to fly with.
To be eligible, you must be departing on a flight that is both marketed and operated by a oneworld member airline.
oneworld lounge access for First Class or Business Class customers (link)
Indulge yourself before departure in a wider range of airport lounges when you fly First Class or Business Class with any oneworld member airline.
The following exceptions apply:
If your oneworld® frequent flyer tier status is Emerald or Sapphire, or you are traveling in a First or Business Class cabin on a oneworld member airline, you can access more than 600 airport lounges throughout the world.
This means you can relax or catch up with work in comfort and style before departure, regardless of which oneworld member airline you choose to fly with.
To be eligible, you must be departing on a flight that is both marketed and operated by a oneworld member airline.
- Some lounges may get busy at peak times, and access to them may be restricted as a result.
- Lounges operated by third parties are identified in the lounge finder tool (above). Access to these lounges is restricted to eligible customers when travelling on specific oneworld airlines as shown in the lounge finder tool.
- Arrivals lounges are excluded.
- Spa and Pre-Flight Dining facilities are excluded.
- British Airways Concorde lounges are excluded.
- Other exceptions may apply (see below).
oneworld lounge access for First Class or Business Class customers (link)
Indulge yourself before departure in a wider range of airport lounges when you fly First Class or Business Class with any oneworld member airline.
- Customers flying First or Business Class have access to the equivalent class of lounge regardless of their frequent flyer status. First Class passengers may use a Business Class or frequent flyer lounge if a First Class lounge is not available.
- First Class passengers may invite one guest to join them in the lounge. The guest must also be travelling on a flight operated and marketed by a oneworld airline.
- Connecting between oneworld marketed and operated flights:
- First and Business Class customers connecting on the same day of travel, or before 6am the following day, can access the lounge when travelling between an international long haul (a oneworld international long haul flight is defined as an international flight marketed and operated by any oneworld carrier with a scheduled flight time longer than 5 hours) and an international short haul or domestic flight (and vice-versa).
- Lounge access will be determined on the international long haul ticketed flight (either First of Business Class) regardless of the ticketed class of travel on the international short haul or domestic flight.
- You must be prepared to show your boarding pass or itinerary showing travel in First or Business class on the international long haul flight, in order to access the lounge before your international short haul or domestic flight.
- First and Business Class customers who do not hold Emerald or Sapphire tier status are not eligible to access American Airlines lounges when travelling on solely domestic flights within the U.S. or between the U.S. and Canada, Mexico [except Mexico City], the Bahamas, Bermuda and the Caribbean; customers travelling in First or Business class on U.S. transcontinental flights between JFK-LAX, JFK-SFO and MIA-LAX (and vice-versa) are eligible for lounge access.
- Guests are not permitted at Qatar Airways Al Safwa and Al Mourjan lounges at Hamad International Airport in Doha or Qatar Airways Premium Lounge at London Heathrow Terminal 4.
Please see the following resources for further details on Class of Service Based Lounge Access Rules:
. . . ● oneworld Lounge Access Wizard , created by FlyerTalk member imagineertobe
. . . ● AA.com: AA Lounge Access Rules
. . . ● oneworld.com: Lounge Access Rules and Search Tool
. . . ● FlyerGuide Wiki: Lounges
. . . ● FT thread: AAdvantage status-based access to AA & oneworld lounges (consolidated)
ARCHIVE: Lounge Access Based on Class of Service (master thread)
May 20, 2015, 6:16 pm
#241
Join Date: Mar 2013
Programs: HHonors Diamond, IHG Plat, Club Carlson Gold, SPG Gold, Marriott Gold
Posts: 316
Our family of four will be flying the following routes and would like to check with the experts regarding our lounge access based on class of service (we have no OW status but have Admirals Club membership)
ATL-ORD-HKG F on AA ATL-ORD and J on CX ORD-HKG
Admirals Club and BA Terraces Lounge in ORD, CX Arrivals Lounge in HKG
NRT-LAX-ATL F on JL NRT-LAX and F on AA LAX-ATL (Our teenage children are flying Y for both legs)
JL First Class Lounge in NRT, Qantas First at TBIT and Admirals Club in LAX for all four of us for both legs.
Do these sound right?
ATL-ORD-HKG F on AA ATL-ORD and J on CX ORD-HKG
Admirals Club and BA Terraces Lounge in ORD, CX Arrivals Lounge in HKG
NRT-LAX-ATL F on JL NRT-LAX and F on AA LAX-ATL (Our teenage children are flying Y for both legs)
JL First Class Lounge in NRT, Qantas First at TBIT and Admirals Club in LAX for all four of us for both legs.
Do these sound right?
Last edited by Namaste1; May 20, 2015 at 7:03 pm
May 20, 2015, 6:37 pm
#242
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: JFK > LGA >> EWR
Programs: AA EXP 1.2mm, Kimpton IC, Starwood Gold, Marriott Gold
Posts: 2,180
You will not have physical access to the TBIT lounges at LAX, so no Qantas lounge. You will have AA Flagship Lounge access in T4 at LAX (present your JAL boarding pass). And yes, all four of you.
May 20, 2015, 7:33 pm
#243
Join Date: Mar 2013
Programs: HHonors Diamond, IHG Plat, Club Carlson Gold, SPG Gold, Marriott Gold
Posts: 316
Ah, forgot about AA Flagship Lounge at LAX. Thank you so much for your help SJC AA ^
May 21, 2015, 2:41 am
#244
Moderator: American AAdvantage, Signatures
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: London, England
Programs: UA 1K, Hilton Diamond, IHG Diamond Ambassador, National Exec, AA EXP Emeritus
Posts: 9,765
May 26, 2015, 7:23 am
#245
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Southwest Michigan
Posts: 30
Hey all, question for you - I was denied entry to the Admiral's Club at EWR yesterday. Flew BA/OpenSkies (I) Business from ORY>EWR (booked through BA), connected in EWR to an independent itinerary in (G) economy EWR>ORD (booked through AA).
The attendant said I had to be in First for the domestic leg or be a OneWorld Sapphire through BA ( I am a Plat through AA), even after showing her the BA boarding pass stub.
Was she right?
The attendant said I had to be in First for the domestic leg or be a OneWorld Sapphire through BA ( I am a Plat through AA), even after showing her the BA boarding pass stub.
Was she right?
May 26, 2015, 7:34 am
#246
Moderator: American AAdvantage
Original Poster
Join Date: May 2000
Location: NorCal - SMF area
Programs: AA LT Plat; HH LT Diamond, Maître-plongeur des Muccis
Posts: 62,948
Hey all, question for you - I was denied entry to the Admiral's Club at EWR yesterday. Flew BA/OpenSkies (I) Business from ORY>EWR (booked through BA), connected in EWR to an independent itinerary in (G) economy EWR>ORD (booked through AA).
The attendant said I had to be in First for the domestic leg or be a OneWorld Sapphire through BA ( I am a Plat through AA), even after showing her the BA boarding pass stub.
Was she right?
The attendant said I had to be in First for the domestic leg or be a OneWorld Sapphire through BA ( I am a Plat through AA), even after showing her the BA boarding pass stub.
Was she right?
But if you you were not flying onward on a one world airline, that was a just cause for barring access ("booked through AA" doesn't tell us what airline you were flying out on).
May 26, 2015, 10:03 am
#247
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Southwest Michigan
Posts: 30
Flying onward in domestic First is an incorrect reason. If you were flying onward on AA or US for EWR-ORD, she was wrong to deny access.
But if you you were not flying onward on a one world airline, that was a just cause for barring access ("booked through AA" doesn't tell us what airline you were flying out on).
But if you you were not flying onward on a one world airline, that was a just cause for barring access ("booked through AA" doesn't tell us what airline you were flying out on).
May 26, 2015, 10:46 am
#248
Moderator: American AAdvantage
Original Poster
Join Date: May 2000
Location: NorCal - SMF area
Programs: AA LT Plat; HH LT Diamond, Maître-plongeur des Muccis
Posts: 62,948
May 26, 2015, 2:01 pm
#249
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: LAX, SNA, LGB
Posts: 453
Hopefully this helps.
http://www.aa.com/i18n/travelInforma...jsp#exceptions
http://www.aa.com/i18n/travelInforma...jsp#exceptions
Hey all, question for you - I was denied entry to the Admiral's Club at EWR yesterday. Flew BA/OpenSkies (I) Business from ORY>EWR (booked through BA), connected in EWR to an independent itinerary in (G) economy EWR>ORD (booked through AA).
The attendant said I had to be in First for the domestic leg or be a OneWorld Sapphire through BA ( I am a Plat through AA), even after showing her the BA boarding pass stub.
Was she right?
The attendant said I had to be in First for the domestic leg or be a OneWorld Sapphire through BA ( I am a Plat through AA), even after showing her the BA boarding pass stub.
Was she right?
May 28, 2015, 7:27 am
#250
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Southwest Michigan
Posts: 30
Lounge access is not available if you’re traveling on American Airlines or US Airways solely within the United States or between the United States and the Caribbean, Canada, or Mexico (except Mexico City) unless you’re a oneworld Emerald or Sapphire customer. However, AAdvantage Executive Platinum and Platinum members regardless of Emerald or Sapphire status, are not eligible
Maybe it's the fact that they were separate itineraries and I was "arriving" in EWR.
May 28, 2015, 9:53 am
#251
Moderator: American AAdvantage
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Join Date: May 2000
Location: NorCal - SMF area
Programs: AA LT Plat; HH LT Diamond, Maître-plongeur des Muccis
Posts: 62,948
I think this is where we went awry...
Lounge access is not available if you’re traveling on American Airlines or US Airways solely within the United States or between the United States and the Caribbean, Canada, or Mexico (except Mexico City) unless you’re a oneworld Emerald or Sapphire customer. However, AAdvantage Executive Platinum and Platinum members regardless of Emerald or Sapphire status, are not eligible
Maybe it's the fact that they were separate itineraries and I was "arriving" in EWR.
Lounge access is not available if you’re traveling on American Airlines or US Airways solely within the United States or between the United States and the Caribbean, Canada, or Mexico (except Mexico City) unless you’re a oneworld Emerald or Sapphire customer. However, AAdvantage Executive Platinum and Platinum members regardless of Emerald or Sapphire status, are not eligible
Maybe it's the fact that they were separate itineraries and I was "arriving" in EWR.
E.g. Arriving from Europe in ORD to fly onward to SFO, I'm still able to access the Flagship Lounge due to my qualifying arrival and my departing the same day on a oneworld airle - regardless of whether it's to PVG or STL.
May 28, 2015, 12:42 pm
#252
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Southwest Michigan
Posts: 30
No. The agent was wrong, albeit perhaps she didn't understand you were arriving from a qualifying one world flight for some reason?
E.g. Arriving from Europe in ORD to fly onward to SFO, I'm still able to access the Flagship Lounge due to my qualifying arrival and my departing the same day on a oneworld airle - regardless of whether it's to PVG or STL.
E.g. Arriving from Europe in ORD to fly onward to SFO, I'm still able to access the Flagship Lounge due to my qualifying arrival and my departing the same day on a oneworld airle - regardless of whether it's to PVG or STL.
Thanks for the input!
May 29, 2015, 9:22 pm
#253
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 29
Flying first class jfk-lhr on American. No status. Recomendations for the best arrivals lounge I would have access to. Thanks.
May 29, 2015, 10:44 pm
#254
Moderator: American AAdvantage
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Join Date: May 2000
Location: NorCal - SMF area
Programs: AA LT Plat; HH LT Diamond, Maître-plongeur des Muccis
Posts: 62,948
May 30, 2015, 8:08 am
#255
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Omaha
Programs: AA Life Plat 4mm, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 1,460
We now have a 5 hour layover in Berlin on an AA/AB J ticket. We arrive from DFW/FRA and were advised to shower at the CX lounge at FRA but only have 2 hours and I assume we will have to go through some sort of passport control. We will obviously have way more downtime at TXL, are there any Oneworld shower facilities?