777 First vs Business - major differences? (consolidated)
#31
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2001
Location: South Bend, IN
Programs: AA EXP 3 MM; Marriott Bonvoy Lifetime Titanium Elite
Posts: 18,562
This applies to main courses ONLY. The rest of the meal is different.
IMO, main courses are the worst part of any airline meal (doesn't matter the airline, some are just worse than others), so this would not be a factor. I usually skip the main course altogether, as I did today on AA289 in F.
#32
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2001
Location: South Bend, IN
Programs: AA EXP 3 MM; Marriott Bonvoy Lifetime Titanium Elite
Posts: 18,562
The service very likely will be similarly bad/grumpy/unhelpful as normally on AA. The food is very similar (just somewhat bigger plates and a little nicer setup in F).
The main difference is the seat: really flat with reasonable privacy and space and nobody to climb over/climbing over you. Travelling alone I can sleep fairly well in AA F for several hours, but in J usually don't sleep well. I would spend the extra miles. If you travel with your partner you are close enough on the middle seats to talk, but holding hands is difficult.
The main difference is the seat: really flat with reasonable privacy and space and nobody to climb over/climbing over you. Travelling alone I can sleep fairly well in AA F for several hours, but in J usually don't sleep well. I would spend the extra miles. If you travel with your partner you are close enough on the middle seats to talk, but holding hands is difficult.
As others have said, I have had only a few instances of AA FAs behaving in the manner described above. Today, I was looked after by a fabulous 44 year veteran of the airline on AA 289 in F.
#33
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: AA Lifetime PLT , BA Silver , BD RIP , HH Gold, SPG / Marriott PLT , EF Subscriber
Posts: 6,702
You now get a Bigger wine glass in First^
#34
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: DFW
Programs: AA EP 3MM, UA Silver, Bonvoy LT TIT, Hyatt Explorist, HH Silver, Caesars PLT
Posts: 7,259
#35
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 106
F is definitely worth the cost of the miles. As noted above, I'd suggest trying to avoid row 4A/J. I was just in 4A on JFK-NRT and it was a much worse seat than the others due to the galley noise. That said, I'd happily take 4A/J over any J seat.
As the seat lies perfectly flat, I actually found it more comfortable to sleep opposite of how one sits which kept my head away from the aisle (and farther from the galley).
As the seat lies perfectly flat, I actually found it more comfortable to sleep opposite of how one sits which kept my head away from the aisle (and farther from the galley).
#36
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: (insert city name here) hotel
Programs: AA - ExPlat 1MM Marriott - Platinum, Hertz - Presidents Circle
Posts: 483
#37
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: NRT-ORD-LHR-KUL
Programs: UA-GS, AA-EXP
Posts: 1,112
I'd personally take the F seat. You and the Mrs can actually face each other for dinner.....if you like that kind of thing. You'll be able to use the Flagship Lounge for a few glasses of bubbly before you board
#38
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: NYC
Posts: 27,237
This thread has a lot of useful info comparing the OW lounges in T3.
#39
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
Programs: AA Plat
Posts: 757
By November the FC lounge inside the T3 BA lounge should be open and probably will be the FC lounge of choice over AA, CX and JL.
#40
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2002
Location: NYC, USA
Programs: AA EXP 3MM, Lifetime Platinum, Marriott Titanium, HH Gold
Posts: 10,968
Much, much bigger! The new wine glasses are actually like the size of a real wine glass. They are available exclusively on 3-class flights operated with 772 and 762 equipment.
#42
Original Member
Join Date: May 1998
Location: Hellsea - NY, NY, USA
Programs: AA EXP, UA 1K, Marriott LT Titanium
Posts: 1,994
But I have to say that between the Veuve and the dim sum, I'd much prefer the CX lounge to the champagne and finger sandwiches on offer in the BA lounge.
Truth be told, I would be loyal to any lounge which serves Moet Nectar Imperial or a good Rose bubbly. But for me the dim sum gives the extra nudge to CX.
#44
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Orange County, CA
Programs: AA LT PLT, DL PLT, HH DIA, IHG PLT, Hertz PLT, Bonvoy GLD, Avis Pres Club
Posts: 1,265
If the 99% of the other posts aren't convincing enough, I too have flown in both cabins and I would take the F cabin 8 days a week and twice on sunday over the J cabin. Significantly better seat, much more intimate cabin, more personalized service, and a lot of food choices. The wine selection is allegedly an upgrade, but I have yet to be blown away by any wine in any AA cabin.
Since you mention miles are not an issue, why is there even a question about it?
Since you mention miles are not an issue, why is there even a question about it?
#45
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 531
Difference? Yes... big difference? Not really. However, you may as well take the F cabin for the few extra miles it costs