ARCHIVE: Sticker / 500-mile Electronic Upgrades Protocols / Questions (2009-2014)
#212
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: PHL
Programs: AA Plat, Hyatt Platinum, Hertz #1 Gold
Posts: 286
both of you in the same record?....i'm interested in the current policy, because the last i heard was the 500miers come from each account...we are plt & gld.....the policy may be different when clearing at the gate, however, i have asked in the past to have the stickers come from 1 or the other account & it was done....aa.com is silent on this or i haven't found it....
#213
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Join Date: Nov 2003
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AA does not have an effective way to re-educate their staff. I traveled a lot with an EXP when I was PLAT and we always linked our records so I would get EXP status for upgrades. A few years ago it was the rule that 500 mile upgrades would come out of the EXP account. Then we were told to request the ADC code(?) to be removed after the upgrade cleared to have the upgrades from each account. Today's rules now state upgrades will come from each account, unless there are not enough in one of the accounts but enough in the other. Not all agents are aware of these changes and insist older rules apply.
A word of caution. If you flew in F and no upgrades were deducted from your account, you may have a negative SWU balance in your account! I was gifted a SWU for a flight a few years back and once I hit EXP my account only showed 7 available. I was never notified this happened and it took several calls to get it fixed. AA.com never showed this negative balance and I was told it does happen. You can call AA and ask what your SWU balance is (although some agents still call them eVIPs). Or just wait and see what happens when/if you hit EXP.
A word of caution. If you flew in F and no upgrades were deducted from your account, you may have a negative SWU balance in your account! I was gifted a SWU for a flight a few years back and once I hit EXP my account only showed 7 available. I was never notified this happened and it took several calls to get it fixed. AA.com never showed this negative balance and I was told it does happen. You can call AA and ask what your SWU balance is (although some agents still call them eVIPs). Or just wait and see what happens when/if you hit EXP.
#214
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Join Date: Mar 2004
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AA does not have an effective way to re-educate their staff. I traveled a lot with an EXP when I was PLAT and we always linked our records so I would get EXP status for upgrades. A few years ago it was the rule that 500 mile upgrades would come out of the EXP account. Then we were told to request the ADC code(?) to be removed after the upgrade cleared to have the upgrades from each account. Today's rules now state upgrades will come from each account, unless there are not enough in one of the accounts but enough in the other. Not all agents are aware of these changes and insist older rules apply.
At the airport, it seems that they agents can do either/or. In the past we've just requested one behavior over the other. They've not always done it (because of the prevailing rule) but it was clear that they could. In this case it could well be the flexibility that is causing the issue.
Cheers.
#215
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Join Date: Apr 2009
Programs: AAdvantage Gold
Posts: 1,615
I checked my account today and (10) 500-mile upgrades have been taken out of my account for the LAX-MIA but none have been taken out for LAX-LIH from my account nor my wife's account.
Since I only have (3) 500-mile upgrades left in my account. What is AA going to do? for the (12) upgrades that haven't been taken yet?
Since I only have (3) 500-mile upgrades left in my account. What is AA going to do? for the (12) upgrades that haven't been taken yet?
#216
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 80
is it still true that award tickets can't use stickers?
Booked an F award ticket to HKG from DFW via SFO(downgraded voluntarily). On the day of travel I was put on the upgrade list ahead everyone else by AC agent. About 45 minutes before departure I learned that GA was clearing people who are behind me on the list. Went to the gate and informed the GA about my situation. The GA apologized, told me I was on a separate list which he forgot to look, and upgraded me. After the trip, I learned 3 stickers were taken from my account. I sent an email to customer service about 10 days ago and still haven't received any reply.
So can stickers be used in my situation?
So can stickers be used in my situation?
#217
Moderator: American AAdvantage, Signatures
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: London, England
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Booked an F award ticket to HKG from DFW via SFO(downgraded voluntarily). On the day of travel I was put on the upgrade list ahead everyone else by AC agent. About 45 minutes before departure I learned that GA was clearing people who are behind me on the list. Went to the gate and informed the GA about my situation. The GA apologized, told me I was on a separate list which he forgot to look, and upgraded me. After the trip, I learned 3 stickers were taken from my account. I sent an email to customer service about 10 days ago and still haven't received any reply.
So can stickers be used in my situation?
So can stickers be used in my situation?
Longer answer: you were probably put into the wrong inventory by the GA. I bet you were put into X rather than Z. I would ask AA to give you the stickers back--if they aren't replying to your online request, a quick call to AAdvantage Customer Service should help get the ball rolling. Good luck!
#218
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: BOS
Programs: AAdvantage PLT, AAdmirals Club, HHonors GLD
Posts: 66
Quick question: I have a flight from BOS-SFO with a stop in DFW (its a single flight number). Requested the sticker upgrades and am wondering if you can get cleared for one leg of the flight but not the other. I'm guessing no, but can someone please confirm.
Thanks.
Thanks.
#219
Join Date: May 2007
Programs: AAdvantage, Hilton
Posts: 3,191
Quick question: I have a flight from BOS-SFO with a stop in DFW (its a single flight number). Requested the sticker upgrades and am wondering if you can get cleared for one leg of the flight but not the other. I'm guessing no, but can someone please confirm.
Thanks.
Thanks.
#220
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Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: dallas texas usa
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Quick question: I have a flight from BOS-SFO with a stop in DFW (its a single flight number). Requested the sticker upgrades and am wondering if you can get cleared for one leg of the flight but not the other. I'm guessing no, but can someone please confirm.
Thanks.
Thanks.
years ago, dfw-mia-eze, it was a direct flight connection w/a change of grade, and no prob on the split...
#221
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To expand on what sukn said, if it doesn't clear by the time you check in you can also ask to be placed on the airport waitlist, and at that point each segment would clear or not clear on its own. Not a great plan A, but at least it's a decent plan B.
#222
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: BOS
Programs: AAdvantage PLT, AAdmirals Club, HHonors GLD
Posts: 66
Thanks for the advice all.
#223
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: California
Programs: HH-Diamond, UA-1K, Marriott-Gold
Posts: 28
AA upgrades are confusing
I am having a hard time understanding AA upgrade rules and policies. I normally fly mostly Delta and United and based on my status, I get complimentary upgrades when available. These are automatically done.
I recently did an Elite Challenge on AA and flew the required points/miles to get Gold Status. Now I have a flight from LAX > OMA via DFW and on all 4 sectors I requested an upgrade. Today I received a confirmed upgrade on 1 sector, however when I try to check in online, I get an error that I do not have any 500 mile upgrades available and so now I have to check in at the airport counter.
So this is where I am confused - as a Gold should I not receive complimentary upgrades if inventory is available? With Delta and United I do not have to even request an upgrade - if inventory is available I get an automatic upgrade.
My apologies if this is a repost - I checked all the postings and could not find anything related to Status challenge and upgrades.
Thank you.
I recently did an Elite Challenge on AA and flew the required points/miles to get Gold Status. Now I have a flight from LAX > OMA via DFW and on all 4 sectors I requested an upgrade. Today I received a confirmed upgrade on 1 sector, however when I try to check in online, I get an error that I do not have any 500 mile upgrades available and so now I have to check in at the airport counter.
So this is where I am confused - as a Gold should I not receive complimentary upgrades if inventory is available? With Delta and United I do not have to even request an upgrade - if inventory is available I get an automatic upgrade.
My apologies if this is a repost - I checked all the postings and could not find anything related to Status challenge and upgrades.
Thank you.
#224
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Hotlanta.
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Posts: 4,604
Only EXP get complimentary upgrades. GLD and PLT need e500s. You get 4 every 10k miles flown and you also can buy them for $30 each online or $35 each from an AAgent.
#225
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Join Date: Nov 2007
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I'd suggest giving the wiki article a read: http://www.flyerguide.com/wiki/index...ic.22_Upgrades
Basic gist: Unlike other UDU programs, AA's Gold and Platinum levels do not have true UDUs. You have to earn 500-mile upgrades (earn 4 per 10,000 miles flown) that you can then use to upgrade flights.
Basic gist: Unlike other UDU programs, AA's Gold and Platinum levels do not have true UDUs. You have to earn 500-mile upgrades (earn 4 per 10,000 miles flown) that you can then use to upgrade flights.