OLCI purchased upgrade offer to non-elite before elite upgrades processed
#46
Join Date: Dec 2009
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I agree with your sentiment but I'd like to re-iterate the biggest issue - they are not offering it to you. So it is not whomever will purchase but whomever is offered and purchases. Is it because they don't want elites to know what they are doing that they aren't offering the elites the option?
#47
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Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: DFW
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You're forgetting that they're not angering all the EXPs, but rather the 0.1% that are savvy enough to know the detailed workings the program (by reading this or other boards). That's a contingent AA can easily afford to piss off. Besides, where are they (we) gonna go?
This is not something that will endear frequent travelers, it certainly won't entice new customers to chase status for the perceived perks.
I'll see what their answer is tomorrow, then I'll go from there.
--wes
#48
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--wes
#49
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: TPA
Programs: AA PLT, Hilton diamond, Hyatt Diamond
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*Makes popcorn*
I enjoy my cheap fares too ESpen36
Maybe we all shouldnt be "elites" anymore and just buy the upgrades when offered?
And for the person who will be moving to WN, enjoy.
*eats popcorn*
I enjoy my cheap fares too ESpen36
Maybe we all shouldnt be "elites" anymore and just buy the upgrades when offered?
And for the person who will be moving to WN, enjoy.
*eats popcorn*
#50
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A forest fire on the internet is but a warm puff of flatulence in the real world
#51
Join Date: Jul 2009
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I'm fine with AA making money on selling upgrades.. but for sure they have to be offered to EXP's when they check-in and EXP check-in should be before the rest also!!
#52
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: DFW, DAL
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Confirmed - OLCI purchased upgrade offer to non-elite before elite upgrades processed
0.1%? I think the exp league is pretty savvy and more than one in one thousand are on these type of boards. At least when I talk to other exp's flying out of dfw it seems they are pretty savvy to these things. I'm not on facebook, but I wonder, if this is true, is this the type of tip that AA wants its members to share there?
#53
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Join Date: May 2002
Location: NYC, USA
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I'm 100% in agreement, but I'm not sure how that would be possible. Within 24 hours of departure time, any eligible pax can check in.
Maybe allow EXPs exclusively to check in 48-24 hours before departure? (but then the issue becomes, what if RM decides to release LFBU inventory after the EXP-only check-in window has passed, but still before sticker inventory)
#55
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 526
I agree with your sentiment but I'd like to re-iterate the biggest issue - they are not offering it to you. So it is not whomever will purchase but whomever is offered and purchases. Is it because they don't want elites to know what they are doing that they aren't offering the elites the option?
Shocked--no--it is what I have come to expect from AA.
No matter how low they set the bar--I am never shocked.
#56
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: jfk area
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Many (most?) EXP's expect to get free domestic upgrades if fc is available. Only after all of these (EXP's) have been accommodated, should AA then offer pax who have "stickers" in their account the opportunity to use them. EXP's should not even be put in a position of paying for an upgrade or waiting until they get to the airport and "hope" that they get upgraded.
If this new(?) policy has arrived, will SWU=EVIP usage be next? [Not open "C" class in advance, wait until T-24 and sell UPG's only.]
What would be the advantage of becoming EXP?
I am anxiously waiting to hear what OP learns after speaking with AA cr people?
If this new(?) policy has arrived, will SWU=EVIP usage be next? [Not open "C" class in advance, wait until T-24 and sell UPG's only.]
What would be the advantage of becoming EXP?
I am anxiously waiting to hear what OP learns after speaking with AA cr people?
#57
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Dallas
Programs: AA LTPLT UA1P Hilton Dia Marriott Plat
Posts: 1,183
If AA is going the way of UA on upgrades, no reason to stay loyal IMHO. I was about to purchase a ticket (to reqal for EXP) back to Dallas last night on AA from Singapore. I will hold off until I hear what's going on
Many (most?) EXP's expect to get free domestic upgrades if fc is available. Only after all of these (EXP's) have been accommodated, should AA then offer pax who have "stickers" in their account the opportunity to use them. EXP's should not even be put in a position of paying for an upgrade or waiting until they get to the airport and "hope" that they get upgraded.
If this new(?) policy has arrived, will SWU=EVIP usage be next? [Not open "C" class in advance, wait until T-24 and sell UPG's only.]
What would be the advantage of becoming EXP?
I am anxiously waiting to hear what OP learns after speaking with AA cr people?
If this new(?) policy has arrived, will SWU=EVIP usage be next? [Not open "C" class in advance, wait until T-24 and sell UPG's only.]
What would be the advantage of becoming EXP?
I am anxiously waiting to hear what OP learns after speaking with AA cr people?
#58
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: new york, ny
Posts: 1,373
Not all EXP are savvy about their membership. I personally know one who is not.
#59
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I (and possibly others) could find other leisure activities which does not involve flying.
#60
Join Date: Aug 2006
Programs: Hyatt Diamond, SPG LT Plat, AA 3MM EXP
Posts: 397
Hey, what about the Platinums? I was one of the first EXP's on AA, a bit before the program was "official." I was EXP their first year ('98 I think). Though now LT Plat 2MM, I haven't requalified for EXP since. Back then you still had to pay for upgrade stickers, BTW. I'm actually on-track to requal this yr. for the first time in 14 years and from this thread, not that excited about it. Am I the customer you want not traveling as much? Should I hold of on all non-essential trips and just coast on my LT Plat status? These are the questions to be considered when making this type of corporate decision. I would be upset to miss an upgrade from DFW to SEA if a non-elite member was willing to pay approx the same amount I would pay for stickers as Platinum and get it first.
Can someone confirm that ALL elites are NOT offered the paid upgrade in ANY case?
Can someone confirm that ALL elites are NOT offered the paid upgrade in ANY case?