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Old Nov 19, 2009, 2:04 am
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Originally Posted by videomaker
I'm the same way. If I'm that close, there's no way I'll take a chance on not making it.
Yep, I'm way too neurotic to take the chance. Personally, I'd take a flight to bump myself over.

If the OP is a gambling man/woman, I feel pretty good for his/her chances, but as has been stated thoroughly already, nothing is guaranteed.
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Old Nov 19, 2009, 2:49 am
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Originally Posted by ishalom
You do not have to call if you are within 100 eilite qualify miles or less they automatically grant you the status at the end of the year
I don't know if this is right or not, but such a policy does not sit well with the elite rewards promotion as:

(a) that promotion already rewards people who just fall short of platinum qualification, and

(b) someone (not the OP) who was gold at year end until the exception is granted next year, would be better off falling short of platinum by less than 100 miles as they would get the elite reward for golds and be platinum.
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Old Nov 19, 2009, 8:27 pm
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Given two double-mileage promotions this year, and the airline's revenue hunger, I'd personally bet on no gimmies but a tiered status buy-back program (which they've also run in previous years):

"Sorry m/m x, but you have not flow the necessary miles. However, because you are so close you qualify for the lowest cost tier of our status purchase plan"
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Old Nov 19, 2009, 9:15 pm
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Originally Posted by valdes
I have platinum status and this year I will fly a total of 49940 Miles so Im 60 miles away from to qualify for platinum will i loose my status??
Is that 49,940 miles inclusive of the double elite qualifying miles bonus? If so, then they already gave you quite a big break and you still didn't make it. If I were running the airline, I would not make exceptions this year. But I'm not running AA, and neither I nor anyone here can say with any certainty what they will do because they won't tell us. As brp said, by the time we find out, it will be too late to do anything about it.
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Old Nov 20, 2009, 11:44 am
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One of the qualifications for attaining elite status is:

"Member must fly at least four segments on American Airlines, American Eagle or AmericanConnection to qualify .."

OK, so what is the definition of "fly"?

If I fly four segments on AA metal but all on an award ticket (no revenue) and all my other EQPs/EQMs that I earn (let's say 100,000) are on other OW metal with no other AA metal segments during the year, do I qualify for EXP status?

Thanks.
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Old Nov 20, 2009, 12:07 pm
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Originally Posted by brp
As noted, calling now won't help since they won't decide until next year...after it's too late to do anything about it.

Also, since they had two double qualifying miles promotions this year, they may be less inclined to let anything slide. I'd play it safe and take one more flight.

Cheers.
I'm with brp on this one. Also could depend upon the number of years that you have been elite with AA and I don't know they might also look at your typical fare class purchased (assuming that this previous information is avaiable to them). Safe bet is to find a cheap MR before 12/31.
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Old Nov 20, 2009, 12:14 pm
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Originally Posted by inlanikai
One of the qualifications for attaining elite status is:

"Member must fly at least four segments on American Airlines, American Eagle or AmericanConnection to qualify .."

OK, so what is the definition of "fly"?

If I fly four segments on AA metal but all on an award ticket (no revenue) and all my other EQPs/EQMs that I earn (let's say 100,000) are on other OW metal with no other AA metal segments during the year, do I qualify for EXP status?

Thanks.
I wouldn't worry too much about that one as I cannot recall a single documented example of AA ever enforcing that rule.

They may of course decide to make an exception for you though

No guarantees but I'd expect to see you get EXP in those circumstances.
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Old Nov 20, 2009, 12:19 pm
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Originally Posted by inlanikai
One of the qualifications for attaining elite status is:

"Member must fly at least four segments on American Airlines, American Eagle or AmericanConnection to qualify .."

OK, so what is the definition of "fly"?

If I fly four segments on AA metal but all on an award ticket (no revenue) and all my other EQPs/EQMs that I earn (let's say 100,000) are on other OW metal with no other AA metal segments during the year, do I qualify for EXP status?

Thanks.
The paragraph immediately above the sentence you quoted from AA.com seems pretty clear in defining segments for the purpose of qualification and retention.
(http://www.aa.com/i18n/AAdvantage/pr...quirements.jsp)
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Old Nov 20, 2009, 12:20 pm
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Dupe.

Last edited by Mark_T; Nov 20, 2009 at 12:21 pm Reason: Double post
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Old Nov 20, 2009, 3:33 pm
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Originally Posted by FlyMeToTheLooneyBin
Is it a written rule that they'll let 100 miles slide? If so, why not just state that you only need 49,900 to qualify for PLT? or is it like speed limits? +10mph isn't so bad, unless the cop is having a bad hair day.
no, there isn't a written rule. some years ago, an unofficial policy was posted, but that's now quite out of date.

on the one hand, two EQM promotions should tell no one to expect any slack. on the other, demand continues to be weak and apparently UA and DL boards report those carriers hinting at possible slack...

Originally Posted by jlsw7
I don't know if this is right or not, but such a policy does not sit well with the elite rewards promotion as:

(a) that promotion already rewards people who just fall short of platinum qualification, and

(b) someone (not the OP) who was gold at year end until the exception is granted next year, would be better off falling short of platinum by less than 100 miles as they would get the elite reward for golds and be platinum.
when exceptions have been had, they've been applied essentially right away at the year end reckoning, I believe. Given the elite rewards will likely be granted with a lag, I don't think anyone will be getting away with "double dipping".

Originally Posted by inlanikai
One of the qualifications for attaining elite status is:

"Member must fly at least four segments on American Airlines, American Eagle or AmericanConnection to qualify .."

OK, so what is the definition of "fly"?

If I fly four segments on AA metal but all on an award ticket (no revenue) and all my other EQPs/EQMs that I earn (let's say 100,000) are on other OW metal with no other AA metal segments during the year, do I qualify for EXP status?

Thanks.
Although seemingly a fairly standard oneworld thing, that policy has never been enforced in AAdvantage (unlike the BA and QF programs). It seems doubtful the system even has a counter set up to track it, at least not up to now.
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Old Nov 20, 2009, 5:16 pm
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Originally Posted by martin33
on the one hand, two EQM promotions should tell no one to expect any slack. on the other, demand continues to be weak and apparently UA and DL boards report those carriers hinting at possible slack...
I wouldn't take the two promotions as an indication of anything other than AA wanting to keep people at higher Elite levels and to try and replace those dropping back with new members, so on that basis they may very well end up being even more likely to let a small shortfall slide through than in previous years.

On the other hand, would I take a chance? No, I'd fly the miles.
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Old Nov 20, 2009, 9:07 pm
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Originally Posted by Mark_T
I wouldn't take the two promotions as an indication of anything other than AA wanting to keep people at higher Elite levels and to try and replace those dropping back with new members, so on that basis they may very well end up being even more likely to let a small shortfall slide through than in previous years.

On the other hand, would I take a chance? No, I'd fly the miles.
Exactly -- we can pontificate and theorize all we want (which we seem to do here), but at the end of the day, you're taking a risk by hoping they'll bump people over who are thisclose.
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Old Nov 21, 2009, 8:11 pm
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Question 1 segment short of PLT

I will be ending up the year with 59 segments, have been travelling for about 6 months on short flights (miles around 35K for year). Any chance they'll make an exception & move me to PLT next year?
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Old Nov 21, 2009, 11:24 pm
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Originally Posted by pvhemanth
I will be ending up the year with 59 segments, have been travelling for about 6 months on short flights (miles around 35K for year). Any chance they'll make an exception & move me to PLT next year?
that's an interesting one. I do not believe anyone has ever reporting being extended slack in segments, only miles/points.

how did you get to only 35K EQM with six months of double credit? were they partner flights?
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Old Nov 21, 2009, 11:42 pm
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Originally Posted by martin33
that's an interesting one. I do not believe anyone has ever reporting being extended slack in segments, only miles/points.

how did you get to only 35K EQM with six months of double credit? were they partner flights?
He said he's only been traveling for 6 months, and 59 short segments could earn 29500 to 59000 if done on flights of 500 miles or less.

If I had 59.... I wouldn't stop
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