Aug 14, 2019, 11:04 am
Last edit by: dkc192
List of Tail Numbers with the new configuration
JA784A
JA785A
JA787A
JA788A
JA793A
JA794A
JA795A
JA796A
JA797A
JA798A
Current routes with new product:
All frequencies:
Select/most frequencies--see latest posts for more details as the schedule can vary by month:
JA784A
JA785A
JA787A
JA788A
JA793A
JA794A
JA795A
JA796A
JA797A
JA798A
Current routes with new product:
All frequencies:
- HND-LHR-HND NH211/212
- HND-JFK-HND NH110/109/160/159
Select/most frequencies--see latest posts for more details as the schedule can vary by month:
- NRT-SFO-NRT NH8/7
- HND-ORD-HND NH112/111
- NRT-ORD-NRT NH12/11
New 777-300ER (77W) F/C/PY/Y Seating (consolidated)
Jul 11, 2019, 2:05 pm
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Yup I'm interested too. Have a late Oct flight in J for Chicago to Tokyo and then a Tokyo to New York flight in November. I'm not optimistic but maybe it could happen on the New York route by November if that's the next route they focus on. Then again I'm still waiting on SQ to upgrade their NY-SIN planes.
Jul 11, 2019, 2:31 pm
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Yup I'm interested too. Have a late Oct flight in J for Chicago to Tokyo and then a Tokyo to New York flight in November. I'm not optimistic but maybe it could happen on the New York route by November if that's the next route they focus on. Then again I'm still waiting on SQ to upgrade their NY-SIN planes.
Jul 11, 2019, 2:39 pm
#33
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Going by the window configuration I think they already have 4 aircraft with this cabin: JA793A, JA794A, JA795A, and JA796A. Three of them appear to be in storage.
This may have changed in the meantime but at least up until 4-5 years ago foreign carriers were not allowed to fly new aircraft to the US until 6 months after delivery. Yes, even Boeing aircraft. If this rule is still in place and they're not retrofitting any older aircraft at the moment then it'll be another few months before the US gets the new cabin. They had 2 deliveries in March so that would be September at the earliest. Why they're not using them for FRA then I don't know.
This may have changed in the meantime but at least up until 4-5 years ago foreign carriers were not allowed to fly new aircraft to the US until 6 months after delivery. Yes, even Boeing aircraft. If this rule is still in place and they're not retrofitting any older aircraft at the moment then it'll be another few months before the US gets the new cabin. They had 2 deliveries in March so that would be September at the earliest. Why they're not using them for FRA then I don't know.
Last edited by CosmicGirl; Jul 13, 2019 at 9:31 am
Jul 11, 2019, 2:44 pm
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Going by the window configuration I think they already have 4 aircraft with this cabin: JA793A, JA794A, JA795A, and JA796A. Three of them appear to be in storage.
Ths may have changed in the meantime but at least up until 4-5 years ago foreign carriers were not allowed to fly new aircraft to the US until 6 months after delivery. Yes, even Boeing aircraft. If this rule is still in place and they're not retrofitting any older aircraft at the moment then it'll be another few months before the US gets the new cabin. They had 2 deliveries in March so that would be September at the earliest. Why they're not using them for FRA then I don't know.
Ths may have changed in the meantime but at least up until 4-5 years ago foreign carriers were not allowed to fly new aircraft to the US until 6 months after delivery. Yes, even Boeing aircraft. If this rule is still in place and they're not retrofitting any older aircraft at the moment then it'll be another few months before the US gets the new cabin. They had 2 deliveries in March so that would be September at the earliest. Why they're not using them for FRA then I don't know.
Jul 11, 2019, 2:50 pm
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Good point! I hadn't thought of that. I don't know the origin of the rule but got the info directly from the chief technical pilot of a European airline.
Jul 11, 2019, 2:52 pm
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Jul 11, 2019, 3:02 pm
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Jul 11, 2019, 3:21 pm
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https://www.ana.co.jp/en/us/servicei...300er_new.html
https://www.ana.co.jp/en/us/internat...7_300er_1.html
Looks like seat reclines into a flat bed? (Two pics show the head pillow positions, looks consistent to be a reclining flat bed)
https://www.ana.co.jp/cont-image/com...lang-multi.jpg
https://www.ana.co.jp/cont-image/com...lang-multi.jpg
Y is 3-4-3/2-4-3... PE is 2-4-2. Y/PE is same product as new 787-10 , which was really nice
UA does 3-4-3 across entire Y, I guess NH is slightly better
https://www.ana.co.jp/en/us/internat...7_300er_1.html
Looks like seat reclines into a flat bed? (Two pics show the head pillow positions, looks consistent to be a reclining flat bed)
https://www.ana.co.jp/cont-image/com...lang-multi.jpg
https://www.ana.co.jp/cont-image/com...lang-multi.jpg
Y is 3-4-3/2-4-3... PE is 2-4-2. Y/PE is same product as new 787-10 , which was really nice
UA does 3-4-3 across entire Y, I guess NH is slightly better
Jul 11, 2019, 3:42 pm
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https://www.ana.co.jp/en/us/servicei...300er_new.html
https://www.ana.co.jp/en/us/internat...7_300er_1.html
Y is 3-4-3/2-4-3... PE is 2-4-2. Y/PE is same product as new 787-10 , which was really nice
UA does 3-4-3 across entire Y, I guess NH is slightly better
https://www.ana.co.jp/en/us/internat...7_300er_1.html
Y is 3-4-3/2-4-3... PE is 2-4-2. Y/PE is same product as new 787-10 , which was really nice
UA does 3-4-3 across entire Y, I guess NH is slightly better
Jul 11, 2019, 3:56 pm
#42
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I had to laugh at the guy watching tv in J, right after the woman who's working on her laptop. The seat is down to the flat position and his back is leaning into some invisible back rest because there's a gap between his back and the plastic wall behind him.
Jul 11, 2019, 3:58 pm
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The released seat map is for the high J version with 212 seats and F/J/PY stretching all the way to door 4. Compared to the current high J version, they loose 8J seats and gain 8 Y by going 3-4-3.
Jul 11, 2019, 6:49 pm
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Slight correction but after the 3-4-3 planes NH actually took delivery of more 77Ws that were 2-4-3 (JA790A, JA791A, and JA792A, all high-J with 68J / 112Y) — there was some talk of keeping 3-4-3 only for West Coast flights (and IAH) and 2-4-3 for the rest, and the deliveries of the 3 77Ws in 2015 with 2-4-3 gave us some hope, but looks like that's no longer the case
Jul 11, 2019, 7:23 pm
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Slight correction but after the 3-4-3 planes NH actually took delivery of more 77Ws that were 2-4-3 (JA790A, JA791A, and JA792A, all high-J with 68J / 112Y) — there was some talk of keeping 3-4-3 only for West Coast flights (and IAH) and 2-4-3 for the rest, and the deliveries of the 3 77Ws in 2015 with 2-4-3 gave us some hope, but looks like that's no longer the case
I have seen 3-4-3 on Frankfurt and London as well. Not sure if they were subbed.